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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Frijoles

Stamford, CT

#57637 Sep 3, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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HughBe--- Do you believe in Abraham, Isaac and Jacob?
Compare the evidence that supports the idea that they were real historical figures with the evidence for Jesus, the Christ.
Do not dodge.
FRijoles---All a tangent to the fact that you believe in a fairy tale.
HughBe--- So Jesus is a fairy tale but Moses is real. No doubt you hold such a belief because your masters/rabbis told you so.
Frijoles---Sounds pretty satanically inspired to me.
HughBe--- Mark this day because it is the day when you were told that your god-men or rabbis shall not be able to deliver you or themselves in the day of Judgment. It shall be a day when ALL like you including rabbis who hold your IRREVERENCE shall burn like the fat of lambs.
King Hughbe
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57638 Sep 3, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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King Hughbe
Try god HughBe. Say it with respect as well.

Later.

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#57639 Sep 3, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Your inability to recognize and thus accept truth is not my fault. It is far easier to prove that the writers of the NT were Jews than to prove that Moses wrote the Torah.
Put it this way, I have no evidence that Moses wrote the Torah. YOU should produce the EVIDENCE that you have as I have NONE.
Think for a change, please.
The NT was written by anonymous authors well after the Jewish Christians died.

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#57640 Sep 3, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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HughBe--- Mark this day because it is the day when you were told that your god-men or rabbis shall not be able to deliver you or themselves in the day of Judgment. It shall be a day when ALL like you including rabbis who hold your IRREVERENCE shall burn like the fat of lambs.
Psalm 146:3

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#57641 Sep 3, 2013
Eric wrote:
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That's why it's called faith.
Yes I know where irrationality is concerned you believers are the first.

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#57642 Sep 3, 2013
Eric wrote:
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That's why it's called faith.
Since it's based on faith why did you ask to him to prove Jews wrote the NT when in his sentence he used words like believe and trust?

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#57643 Sep 3, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Prima facie evidence, Matthew, Mark, John are JEWISH names. Paul was a former PHARISEE of the tribe of Benjamin.
Paul's words "I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin."
Give me proof of the authors of the Tanach.
Well no, Mark is a Latin name. And for your information also Luke is.

Of the four only Matthew and John have hebrew names.

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#57644 Sep 3, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Try god HughBe. Say it with respect as well.
Later.
But how many gods that idiot needs to have? He already has plenty of rabbis as gods, isn't it?!...

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#57645 Sep 3, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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It is far easier to prove that the writers of the NT were Jews than to prove that Moses wrote the Torah.
Are there any NT texts written in Hebrew?
Frijoles

Stamford, CT

#57646 Sep 3, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
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But how many gods that idiot needs to have? He already has plenty of rabbis as gods, isn't it?!...
Speaking of idiots, have you discovered the New World yet?
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#57647 Sep 3, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Faith is blind and baseless and constitutes the mainstay of superstitious idiots, whereas certitude based on objective proof and/or subjective experiences with externalized manifestation are/is aimed at rational individuals and gifted intuitionalists.
rabbee: faith is not nearly as blind, or as baseless as you say. when some of it is based, on the testimony of others and or oneself experiences. where the faith comes into play, is with regard as to whether the confidence in persons involved as either true or false.
there are many witnesses to the return, of Adam here in TheStory. even if you all reject, you are here in TheStory from G-D again. indicating that you all have no faith, in TheG-D of Only TheTorah. so therefor indicating your faith, must be somewhere else.
everyone has the same amount of faith, whether it is concentrated in one direction, or diversely divided. whereas diversely divided faiths, has the tendency to be naturally weaker than any concentrated faith. but generally concentrated faith, has little supporting or fabricated evidence.
but like me, i do not need faith to know of the existence of TheG-D WHO has visited me. so my faith is based on the fact, that THIS G-D of TheTorah, shall walk and talk Like TheG-D of Only TheTorah.
so i believe THIS G-D, who calls me adam, who came to tell me about the woman chaooah. as i later found out, this story is exactly the same as in TheTorah. with THIS SAME G-D, WHO placed adam and his mate in charge the last time. has been and is doing, it all again. in this world that never takes the time, to really notice This Story we are all here in, from TheG-D of Only TheTorah is in TheHappening.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57648 Sep 3, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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The NT was written by anonymous authors well after the Jewish Christians died.
Greetings Adam, please supply your proof for your words.

In giving your evidence please reconcile them to the following---

1. "Paul and Timotheus, the servants of Jesus Christ, TO all the saints in Christ Jesus which are at Philippi, with the bishops and deacons"

2. "The salutation of Paul with mine own hand, which is the token in every epistle: so I WRITE"

3. "James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, TO the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting"

Do the words indicate the writers?

Do you have any more revelations?

You sound like a Judahite, are you?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57649 Sep 3, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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Psalm 146:3
Psalm 146:3 "Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help"

Please explain it for me, Adam.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57650 Sep 3, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
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But how many gods that idiot needs to have? He already has plenty of rabbis as gods, isn't it?!...
It seems the more the merrier.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57651 Sep 3, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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Are there any NT texts written in Hebrew?
Not to my knowledge.Why do you ask?

Do you want to study it in Hebrew?

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#57652 Sep 3, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Greetings Adam, please supply your proof for your words.
There is no proof any of the NT were written contemporaneously. If you have it, I'd like to see it.

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#57653 Sep 3, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Psalm 146:3 "Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help"
Please explain it for me, Adam.
The last word is salvation.

Jesus claimed to be the Son of Man. Right?

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#57654 Sep 3, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Not to my knowledge.Why do you ask?
Do you want to study it in Hebrew?
If the early Christians were Jews, wouldn't they have written in Hebrew to convince the Jews of the messiah?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57655 Sep 3, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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There is no proof any of the NT were written contemporaneously. If you have it, I'd like to see it.
HughBe--- Don't stray, FOCUS. You said, "The NT was written by anonymous authors well after the Jewish Christians died."

YOU were asked to PROVE your "ANONYMOUS authors" and "after the JEWISH Christians died". YOU have FAILED to do so.

Now you have introduced CONTEMPORARY.

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#57656 Sep 3, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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The NT was written by anonymous authors well after the Jewish Christians died.
Who wrote the NT hardly matters as long as the info is authentic.

Intelligent people don't usually concern themselves with personalities but are more interested in principles.

I am not interested in the historicity of a personality especially when there exists few or no leads but am more concerned with the teachings/practices/corroborat ion.

Knowledge is impersonal - X, Y and Z can discover the same truth of nature or of being without knowing anything about the research/results arrived at by the others.

I'll go to the extent of stating that even if the teachings of the NT authored by unknown people do not reflect the true words of Jesus it does not matter as long as the teachings are deep, logical and profound and can be verified via experiment or experience.

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