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“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#52767 May 19, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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How do you know what the actual limits of the buffer mechanism are?
Its simple chemistry.

You are hung up on the impact side of the cycle. Global warming occurs as a result of CO2 et al. That is a given. The real question is what and how are the regulators,(not what the thermal impacts are)

Cloudy thinking (pun intended)- I dont know what is WORSE -

Volunteerist who cant understand this stuff and insteadt throws around talking points to make himself feel better OR you who tries to use the science but mangles it.

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#52768 May 19, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Chemical buffer you idiot.
I know about the seas serving as a buffer or as a sink.

Is a chemical buffer different from a thermal buffer since everything in nature - solids, liquids and gases - is made up of matter expressed as chemicals and so any buffer would ultimately reduce to chemicals, and in this specific context of heat transfer (and retentivity), to their thermal capacities, H?

H = mc

(dH/dT)p =(dQ/dT)p = Cp

or H = U + PV

(dU?dT)v =(dQ/dT)v = Cv

So, in this sense, how do you know what the maximum capacity of any buffer would be like?

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#52769 May 19, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Its simple chemistry.

You are hung up on the impact side of the cycle. Global warming occurs as a result of CO2 et al. That is a given. The real question is what and how are the regulators,(not what the thermal impacts are)

Cloudy thinking (pun intended)- I dont know what is WORSE -
Volunteerist who cant understand this stuff and insteadt throws around talking points to make himself feel better OR you who tries to use the science but mangles it.
Simple chem?

Explain it terms of thermodynamic quantities which is the correct way it should be expressed giving all the mathematical equations.

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#52770 May 19, 2013
typo -

(dU/dT)v =( dQ/dT)v = Cv

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#52771 May 19, 2013
The correspondence/interaction between a thermal gradient and heat flux is crucial to comprehending the direct relationship between thermal conductivity and heat distribution in a material system.

Anyway.

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#52772 May 19, 2013
Global warming does not contradict the 2nd law of thermodynamics. LOL.

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#52773 May 19, 2013
HUGH:

When is Jesus expected on earth in his second avatar?

(smiles)

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#52774 May 19, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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LOL.
That was my idea, not yours. I used the principle of the conservation of matter to arrive at this conclusion.
BTW, what are the thermodynamic properties that govern the greenhouse effect? Give the mathematical and chemical equations?
Only Fourier's Law can well describe the transfer of heat between bodies in contact across a thermal gradient and as such the dissemination or distribution of heat between the atmosphere and the earth's surface (where the lowest level of the atmosphere touches the surface of the earth) cannot be correctly calculated using the radiatiion-transfer equations of Boltzmann because the thermal contact of bodies makes converts the phenomenon into a case concerning Fourier's Law.
Its not "your idea"

Its fundamental - any intro science book which has a paragraph on global warming

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#52775 May 19, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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I know about the seas serving as a buffer or as a sink.
Is a chemical buffer different from a thermal buffer since everything in nature - solids, liquids and gases - is made up of matter expressed as chemicals and so any buffer would ultimately reduce to chemicals, and in this specific context of heat transfer (and retentivity), to their thermal capacities, H?
H = mc
(dH/dT)p =(dQ/dT)p = Cp
or H = U + PV
(dU?dT)v =(dQ/dT)v = Cv
So, in this sense, how do you know what the maximum capacity of any buffer would be like?
more pretend obfuscation - this reminds of the exchange you had with Seeker the other day where you were unable to respond to a simple question

Look at it simply and try to understand.

The sea is a sink for Carbon - under existing conditions, it has been absorbing much of the excess C being "generated" (i.e. transferred) by humans. But at some point it will be satiated.

A simple controlled experiment can demonstrate this, but obviously the real world is a bit of more challenge since the system is open. But what happens when the sea is satiated? Then what?

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#52776 May 19, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Simple chem?
Explain it terms of thermodynamic quantities which is the correct way it should be expressed giving all the mathematical equations.
Simple chemistry as the basic idea is simple. But you complexify it in order to make people think you are gifted or educated.

And you miss the point, and in this case, the whole basis of the problem. Even Time Magazine does a better treatment of the issue.

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#52777 May 19, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Global warming does not contradict the 2nd law of thermodynamics. LOL.
That has NOTHING to do with the biological responses. That's what I mean by missing the point.

Sure, we have had periods in the Earth history where the concentration of CO2 was elevated. But were there human beings and dicotyledonous plants at that time? Or cycads and protozoas?
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#52778 May 19, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Gee I looked at a form where it states "amount you owe" and it was blank.
Are you insisting that some words on a piece of paper mean that there is a debt?
So would that be payment on a contract or a tort?
Can words on a paper constitute a contract?

I would say very clearly yes.

Tort? Not sure where you're getting that from.

As usual don't know what your point is if in fact you have one.
former res

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#52779 May 19, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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In Jamaica it just might be the case that taxation is implemented without representation. If so, I can certainly understand how that might frustrate someone like Hughbe, who craves control.
Here in the US, obviously we do have an input.
Perhaps Huggy would be good enough to tell if you has input.

Huggy, do you vote?
former res

Cheshire, CT

#52780 May 19, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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You can not lien without a judicial order, and liens could and have been removed.
So?!

Al Capone.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#52781 May 19, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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I am glad that you agree that there is a gun to your head to pay taxes.
Nothing new if you've been paying attention.

I've repeatedly made reference to the force of law and negative consequences of failing to pay one's tax bill.

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#52782 May 19, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Simple chemistry as the basic idea is simple. But you complexify it in order to make people think you are gifted or educated.

And you miss the point, and in this case, the whole basis of the problem. Even Time Magazine does a better treatment of the issue.
MATHEMATICALLY CHALLENGED DUNCE WITH ZERO REASONING SKILLS.

Why are any of the equations out of place when actually they put the topic on a firm footing by stating the processes in mathematical equations which is the correct way to approach the subject.

You're like that fool and ill-educated Seeker who talks about MOTION OF A BODY without specifying the frame of reference - inertial or non-inertial - and the kind of motion - translational, rotational etc. Even his definition and understanding of the Newton's 1st law is flawed and highly incomplete and then my mathematical explanation of the 1st law placed it in the correct perspective.

Things are not as simple as you think they are.

I can't talk chem or physics with an low IQ poster like you who knows nothing about the fundamentals/advanced laws of science except for indulging in verbal gymnastics.

You don't even know how to calculate the equivalent mass of a molecule in a redox equation. LOL.

I can't imagine studying physics or chem without math since math is the basis of these subjects.

Everything has to be accompanied by mathematical equations to brings out the dynamics/laws at work.

Anyway, it doesn't matter since you are extremely low down the intellectual scale.

Take care, Papa.

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#52783 May 19, 2013
Ya Ma.

(smiles)
former res

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#52784 May 19, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Former---You're a Jew of color like Sammy Davis, Jr.
HughBe--- I am NOT a Jew. I am here on earth in part because of Jewish biology. I am Jet-black in colour and beautiful.
Former---I had thought you were Christian.
HughBe--- Some Jews are Christians. Some Jews are into Eastern religions. Many Jews are into Judaism. Many Jews are like you and are NOT into any god or God.
Jews are RACE. Jews are NOT religion.
Christians consider Sunday to be the Sabbath.

Do you believe JC was your savior?

Do you believe in the trinity?

I think you're saying you have Jewish blood in you. But not religiously Jewish. OK - I understand.

We did cover all this. You deny the ethnoreligious nature of Jews. Not sure why. Why?

This concept is widely known and accepted.
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#52785 May 19, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Former---Well then you agree more with the other fellow, Voluntarist.
HughBe--- Perhaps but I believe that I am in agreement with you but I have chosen different words. Read the posts below again.
Former---I pay them because it's a DEBT and
if one does not pay he is subject to legal proceeding/entanglements
which would result in fines, high legal costs and possible imprisonment.
HughBe--- I would use the word DUTY instead of DEBT even if legally it is called a DEBT.
I am inclined to see it as FORCED payments that are determined by others without my input.
I am also inclined to see it as COVETOUSNESS by those who have power to take my money against my will.
In essence it is a type of extortion.
"I am inclined to see it as FORCED payments that are determined by others without my input.
I am also inclined to see it as COVETOUSNESS by those who have power to take my money against my will.
In essence it is a type of extortion. "

As stated, I don't agree with this part.

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#52786 May 19, 2013
Biology? LOL.

Biology these days - even something as fundamental as photosynthesis - is increasingly being explained in terms of QM and as known the laws of thermodynamics are important underlying principles of biology. These thermodynamic principles govern the chemical processes in all biological systems.....Dunces with poor grasp of the basics of science and with zero math skills won't know and won't understand any of this.

(grins)

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