Juveniles busted for drugs near Mayfi...

Juveniles busted for drugs near Mayfield High School (11:50 a.m.)

There are 87 comments on the Las Cruces Sun-News story from Mar 6, 2009, titled Juveniles busted for drugs near Mayfield High School (11:50 a.m.). In it, Las Cruces Sun-News reports that:

More than 20 juveniles, some of whom attended Mayfield High School, were cited with drug-related charges this morning in a drug bust conducted by New Mexico State Police near the school.

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Robert Hall

Rio Rancho, NM

#63 Mar 7, 2009
Sarcastic Bombastic wrote:
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Robert, no offense, but are you listening to yourself? You're all over the place on this. Are you serious with this? "But we are telling them that we will not educate them if they dare smoke pot. People need to understand that these kids were AT school." No one is telling them that they will not be educated; however, what is even more absurd is that you make it seem like they are at school to learn. Ideally, yes, they should be at school to learn; however, from the mere fact that this is a continual occurrence it seems more like they are there to socialize.
Allow me to use this analogy about paying attention, hearing, and listening. You can be in a room where a TV is on & acknowledge that it is on because you either see it or hear it on; however, if you are asked what was said on the TV, there is no guarantee that you can answer the question. The reason being that although you can hear that the TV is on, you will only know what is said if you are listening. Hearing & listening are two totally different things; although, one does require the other (listening requires hearing). My point is this: Being educated requires being present at school for the purpose of learning, not for socializing while passing a joint, a pipe, or a bong. If indeed the mere presence of students at school meant that would ensure that they were there to learn, then we wouldn't have the issues facing our school board, teachers, parents, or law enforcement personnel. Honestly, I'm not going to be one of these people that are busy blaming the schools' teachers and administrators for all the ills of the schools; however, they do share in blame. Furthermore, I am not going to solely blame the parents for their children. Rather, I am going to hold the students accountable for their choices and would hope that the parents would too. I would hope that the parents care enough about their children to address their behavior and the consequences of it. Unfortunately, too many of these kids have parents that are very apathetic or engage in similar or worse behavior; hence, some of these kids aren't given much of an adult example. With that said, though, it doesn't excuse the choice that they made to violate the schools regulations or the laws of the state. If people want to hold the police accountable for their actions, well it has to cut both ways--the public must be held accountable regardless of age!
I'm with you. Except when we let this problem reach the point that it has-and guns must be drawn-we've all lost. Parents, cops, teachers, society, everyone has lost. We are not a nation of idiots. Is this the best that we can do? I say no. We can do better without finding sole fault in one corner of the argument or the other.
ROUGH RIDER

Rio Rancho, NM

#65 Mar 7, 2009
Robert, how do you know guns were drawn and pointed at the kids? Where you there?
Robert Hall

Rio Rancho, NM

#66 Mar 7, 2009
ROUGH RIDER wrote:
Robert, how do you know guns were drawn and pointed at the kids? Where you there?
My kid was there, searched, and released. Also freshman football players witnessed it during practice and later told me about it.
Private Eye

Rio Rancho, NM

#68 Mar 7, 2009
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VITARA BETTER READ THAT OR IM GONNA BE PISSED.
jimbob

Las Cruces, NM

#69 Mar 8, 2009
Robert Hall wrote:
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I'm with you. Except when we let this problem reach the point that it has-and guns must be drawn-we've all lost. Parents, cops, teachers, society, everyone has lost. We are not a nation of ****. Is this the best that we can do? I say no. We can do better without finding sole fault in one corner of the argument or the other.
Given the track record of drug dealers possessing and using guns, why would you not expect the police to draw their guns? You may have had inside information via your son that no guns were present in the group of students, but the police likely did not have the same information.

The best advice for avoiding the police and their guns is to not break the law.

“Music moves me, UGLY!! Hehehe”

Since: Nov 08

Here, there, everywhere

#70 Mar 8, 2009
Robert Hall wrote:
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What drugs are your adult kids on now? Prescription? Do they drink? I bet they are human and have tried a drug or two. What do you think? Are they the little angels that you would have us believe they are or have you been duped? Where's the sense of community? Has everyone lost it? Turned cynical because this country has a grim, grim future if our collective answer is to send 'em all to hell. Why not help these kids? Are you ready to continue building more and more prisons? Is that what we represent as Americans. The only thing we are good at anymore is to jail people. What is wrong with people these days?
I didnt say my kids were innocent, I know Mine have TRIED drugs, and they didnt like them, I know my kids went to parties and drank, I KNOW my kids arent innocent, They did what all kids do " EXPERIMENT" but thats as far as they went. My oldest are 21 and 22 They are of legal age to drink. My youngest two are 18 and 16 I know they tried things, we have a close family and they were comfortable to TELL us they tried things. But they were also SMART enough to not get hooked, or sell, Or better yet, get caught.

“Music moves me, UGLY!! Hehehe”

Since: Nov 08

Here, there, everywhere

#71 Mar 8, 2009
Someone mentioned earlier that these kids werent hurting anyone....... They are hurting themselves.

And its up to us parents to make sure that our children dont hurt themselves. Talk to your kids about drug use, be open and honest with them. I was with mine. I wasnt innocent either. I esperimented, but I was also smart enough not to get hooked. Talking to your kids DOES make a difference.

“I Put the "B" in ITCH!!”

Since: Jun 08

Wood-Ridge, NJ

#72 Mar 8, 2009
Robert Hall wrote:
GUNS WERE DRAWN ON OUR CHILDREN!!! Nobody is reporting that these kids were surrounded by cops with loaded weapons pointed directly at them. These children not posing any risks or threats to the officers in any way today or the previous three weeks that they were being surveilled. Is this legal? I don't think so. Was deadly forced authorized? Warranted? Or was this a tactic to keep the kids from running in a million different directions? Why are kids-at school- becoming Public Enemy #1? Shouldn't the police be protecting and serving this community in more productive ways? Where is the outrage? Are we another stupid society that blindly roots for these cops or will we tell these slackers that cops should be protecting society from criminals not pointing loaded weapons at our children?
I like it when the police actually do something about drugs in and around our schools, however, at what cost? What if they opened fire on our kids? These kids are not violent people. In fact they are easy targets for cops that should be out enforcing laws that protect the public's safety and property. It is too easy and tempting for these cops and frankly we as citizens of New Mexico should be appalled at them drawing weapons on our children. I realize kids will probably run without the weapons drawn, but as a parent and private citizen, I have grave concerns about the use of force shown by these police officers.
Furthermore, the majority of these kids will now end up at an alternative school called Crossroads. Crossroads is a joke. This is not a school. It is a babysitting service for kids in trouble. One of my kids had to go there and he watched movies all day for several weeks! Kids routinely threaten what passes for teachers there, use profanity, and otherwise create an atmosphere not conducive to learning or teaching. Our tendencies in these instances seem to be for us parents to blame the system and the system to blame the parents. These busts do nothing but give the police a pat on the back for enforcement of some laws, while simultaneously ignoring the fact that real crimes creating real victims committed by real criminals go unsolved everyday by a police department that is woefully inept.
Those of you cheering this bust as a success should be ashamed at what we have become as a society. Children being forced to the ground at gunpoint under threat of loss of life for simply being at school or across the street from school is no success. Guilty only of breaking a law, an antiquated prohibition on marijuana, or not, these are our children-not as we are led to believe from every media account-criminals. Cheering this police action is a perversion of priorities not lost on this parent. Shame on you Las Cruces. Shame on all of us.
Oh get a real life pal. Deadly force would be is the weapons were actually used, unfortunately they weren't.
These punks have to learn marijuana is ILLEGAL, what they were doing is ILLEGAL and now hopefully someone will make them suffer the consequences. My tax dollars are being wasted on these punks?

“I Put the "B" in ITCH!!”

Since: Jun 08

Wood-Ridge, NJ

#73 Mar 8, 2009
Robert Hall wrote:
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What drugs are your adult kids on now? Prescription? Do they drink? I bet they are human and have tried a drug or two. What do you think? Are they the little angels that you would have us believe they are or have you been duped? Where's the sense of community? Has everyone lost it? Turned cynical because this country has a grim, grim future if our collective answer is to send 'em all to hell. Why not help these kids? Are you ready to continue building more and more prisons? Is that what we represent as Americans. The only thing we are good at anymore is to jail people. What is wrong with people these days?
I'll tell you what's wrong with people nowadays. We're sick and tired of paying taxes and yet having to send our children to private schools because LCPS have LOST CONTROL of everything. They can't teach, which is evident by the low educational rankings of NM schools nationwide.

I drink alcohol, it's legal, I am not addicted to alcohol or any other drug, I don't drive drunk and the only law I break is I speed. Hardly the hardened criminal you'd like to portray to those of us who are fed up with the school system and are having to continue to pay our taxes for a system that continues to perform poorly.

So I say if we can rid our schools of 20 punks, yay!! Coordinate another bust until we can rid our schools of these losers.

“I Put the "B" in ITCH!!”

Since: Jun 08

Wood-Ridge, NJ

#74 Mar 8, 2009
Private Eye wrote:
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First of all, i pity your children, for they are parented by an ignorant, extremely judgmental individual who preaches incoherently and incorrectly about issues they know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about. Just because you have an opinion, doesn't mean that it's right; or even relevant, in your case. I have met personally with every individual that was busted at Mayfield today. I am also a student at this school, and i hang out at the place that got raided,(we call it, "the poles") nearly every day. Never, EVER, has one of us brought a weapon to school or had the desire to harm anyone in our ENTIRE LIVES!!! Sure there are a few bad apples in the bunch, who certainly caused the raid in the first place, but the rest are all GOOD PEOPLE, hence the term, "Innocent Children". Sure most of us, myself included, smoke marijuana. If you have a problem with this, YOU ARE A BRAINWASHED PUPPET OF THE MEDIA, AND YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN SHOULD BE CASTRATED TO PREVENT FURTHER GENERATIONS OF IGNORANCE.
By your lack of sentence structure one would know you are a product of the Las Cruces Public system and that pot isn't helping your cause either. Make a decision to put the bong down and concentrate on learning while you still have a chance at life.

“I Put the "B" in ITCH!!”

Since: Jun 08

Wood-Ridge, NJ

#75 Mar 8, 2009
Leroy Pena wrote:
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Never said they were illegal, nor do I wish to outlaw tremendously foolish behavior.
I just do not have to give you a job if I do not like the way you present yourself at an interview.
Simply that.
I agree with you! If I walked into a business, other than a tattoo parlor, I certainly would not hang around if I saw face piercings all over someone, I personally find it repulsive to see it all over one's face. If you own a business you have to take that into account when hiring these kids. Who's got money, usually the crowd over 30, would they find a severely pierced teen a welcome sight when they enter your business, probably not.
Retired Teacher

Santa Fe, NM

#76 Mar 8, 2009
Am I missing something? Students were:
1. ditching school
2. trespassing on church property
3. using or selling drugs.

How is any of this OK?
stopTAGGING our WALLS

Albuquerque, NM

#77 Mar 8, 2009
The police KNOW, they understand, KNOW that where there are drugs there are usually guns. USUALLY.

So these kids getting high and selling each other
their merchandise weren't gathered up to pick up their good citizenship awards on the courthouse
steps.

To you crying liberals complaining about how the
cops do their job, are probably the same citizens who didn't know where their kids where or what they were doing with whom.

Possessing illegal drugs for consumption or distribution is a crime.
The cops approached the crime scene as if a
crime(s) were possibly committed.

The police arrested no less than 20 people.

I know that if I were the parent called away from
work to come down and pick up my stoned kid, I would be plenty pissed. PLENTY.

Remember, not far from this location were Mayfield High kids busted in their parking lot for the same kind of crap that kids have been doing right under our noses for decades.

And no to pick only on Mayfield.
If any investigation and action were taken at all of the high schools, believe me,......same results, different names.

Maybe some names shared at each place.
One of the arrested

United States

#79 Mar 8, 2009
Robert Hall wrote:
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You're silly.
I would go for that but I think it's pretty much impossible to outlaw religions and homosexualty
Robert Hall

Rio Rancho, NM

#80 Mar 9, 2009
Retired Teacher wrote:
Am I missing something? Students were:
1. ditching school
2. trespassing on church property
3. using or selling drugs.
How is any of this OK?
Yes you are missing something. You are part of the problem. I went to both public and private schools. No one was allowed to fail or even miss one homework assignment in private school! In public school teachers routinely are of the opinion that the world needs ditch diggers too. I'm tired of teachers getting so much credit for their vocational choice what with the low pay and the lack of public recognition of their hard work. Prison funding comes from third-grade reading statistics in many states throughout this country. If teachers would actually help these kids early maybe we would have less prisons, a better, government, a healthy economy, and on and on.

I realize that there are parents out there that may or may not send their kids to school regularly. Some teachers may only have a kid in class for a week or two during the semester. Some kid's parents live week-to-week in motel rooms. We cannot effectively teach these kids if they are not present. I understand that. But I would humbly suggest that those kids are the exception.

Resources for teachers is another area that teachers use as an excuse not to teach responsibly. Ok lets fix this crap and move on. Stop failing these kids because of the "system". The system wasn't good when you decided on this vocation. It isn't like you were disillusioned entering into this field. Or if you actually had no idea of the problems with this country's school system prior to entering it then maybe your ignorance is the problem.

By the way-this bust happened prior to the start of the school day-these kids were not ditching. They were indeed trespassing on the church parking lot. And the majority of the kids there, at gun point, were not using, selling, or possessing drugs Teach.
oh well

El Paso, TX

#82 Mar 9, 2009
Robert Hall wrote:
GUNS WERE DRAWN ON OUR CHILDREN!!! Nobody is reporting that these kids were surrounded by cops with loaded weapons pointed directly at them. These children not posing any risks or threats to the officers in any way today or the previous three weeks that they were being surveilled. Is this legal? I don't think so. Was deadly forced authorized? Warranted? Or was this a tactic to keep the kids blah, blah, blah
I understand that they were "waving" to the surveillance van that would pass by during the investigation. They knew that they were being watched, but their brain on drugs didn't allowed them to think what would happen next. That's what drugs do burn your brain and keep you from realizing the obvious. Just like it's obvious that whenever drugs are involved, usually so are guns. Thankfully, this time the cops were the only ones carrying them, since they're the ones trained to.
Rough Rider

Encino, NM

#83 Mar 9, 2009
Robert-Your information is incorrect. There were not guns pulled on the kids. You seem to sit on this site and yell and scream about the system. What exactly are you doing other than running your mouth? What have you done to help the system? Do you volunteer your time at the schools? Have you met with any of the law enforcement to talk to them about the problems? Have you gone to Santa Fe and during the legislative session and been involved? I hear you whining and crying but you haven't said one thing about what you have done or are willing to do.

Back on the subject of the alledged gun pointing. It didn't happen. However, what can be stored in a backpack? Oh, I don't know a bong, a pipe, a bag of weed, a bindle of cocaine, a knife. How about a GUN? Think it hasn't happened before? Columbine ring a bell? How about the recent incident at Onate where a student was assualted with a GUN on a school bus. The list goes on and on. Spend a little bit of time on MySpace and look at what "our children" are posting on their pages. I don't know where you live, but it isn't in this world.

Since: Dec 08

Las Cruces, NM

#84 Mar 9, 2009
Retired Teacher wrote:
Am I missing something? Students were:
1. ditching school
2. trespassing on church property
3. using or selling drugs.
How is any of this OK?
Nope - not missing anything at all...and no, none of it is ok.

If parents want to keep turning their head and say, Oh no not my precious angel, then fine. Let them. I hope they're ready to let their little innocent angels rot in jail...or bury them before they're 18.

“I Put the "B" in ITCH!!”

Since: Jun 08

Wood-Ridge, NJ

#85 Mar 10, 2009
Robert Hall wrote:
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You have some valid points but I feel sorry for you. You are conditioned, like many others, to call these kids losers. These are our kids. These kids are in trouble and we as a society have so much fear of these kids that when they get caught up in something like this we say great! Why? Isn't drug abuse a sickness like alcoholism? Why are they losers? Why do we have such a strong desire to separate them from society? Why don't we have just as strong of a desire to help them rather than label them?
I think this is deeper than most of us want to go. It's probably a product of eco or even ethnocentrism. Maybe we don't get enough recognition for living drug free and so we cheer when those not as fortunate as us get busted. But we really need to look at the millions of Americans in prison and ask if they could be serving this country's best interests out of prison in some other capacity.
No longer is this about us and them. This country is in serious trouble. Without pointing the finger and blaming this on one half on the country or the other we really should try to solve it comprehensively and be rid of the shame that the US carries for having per capita the largest prison population in the modern world. It's no wonder that we have millions of illegals in this county. The stoners that would do the jobs they are hired for are in jail. It's no wonder that we can no longer compete with other countries in academia our youth are being targeted and locked up. They are going to college anymore because we lock them up. This is getting f*cking serious!
Since my era (the 70's) we've had the message out there, don't use drugs, we show the films, we've educated our kids to death about the evils of drug use. Some aren't listening to the message!

Honestly, I don't care about whether the neighbors kid is on drugs, what I care about as a parent is that kid showing up in school and causing problems, which in turn affects my child from learning. That's why I'd like to see stricter punishment for these "losers", it is affecting my child's ability to learn in an environment that is expected to produce literate human beings. As far as I can see, this isn't happening. I pay taxes, I want to see a return on my money, I am not seeing that return in the public school system.
I have resorted to having to pay twice because my youngest is currently enrolled in private school, my two other children (26 and 18) have been enrolled at various times in private school and they complained about situations where drugs were rampant and discipline non-existent in the public school systems. My middle child even complained to administration and it fell on deaf ears. They, the adults just want to put in their time, retire and be done. It's unfortunate we rarely see teachers that actually care about educating our children.
kev loc

United States

#86 Mar 10, 2009
the students that did not have weed or anything still got in troble i was there and i was one of the students that was busted....

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