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You heard it first: Sonic booms rattle Las Cruces

There are 23 comments on the Las Cruces Sun-News story from Oct 18, 2011, titled You heard it first: Sonic booms rattle Las Cruces. In it, Las Cruces Sun-News reports that:

That was the distinct sound that rattled many Las Cruces windows, got dogs barking, and prompted numerous calls to the Mesilla Valley Regional Dispatch Authority between 9 and 10 a.m. today.

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yippy yappy

Las Cruces, NM

#1 Oct 18, 2011
"It was a sonic boom, and actually two sonic booms that were caused from F-22 Raptors ..."
There were actually _THREE_ distinct sonic booms to be heard in the Dona Ana area. Plus if anybody else had looked off to the easterns skies during that time they would have noticed the tightly curved contrails of the fighter jets doing "dogfight" training.
I guess the the Sun-News folks don't really don't do first-hand reporting anymore.
TellThe Truth

Albuquerque, NM

#2 Dec 2, 2011
The AF shouldn't be over the Las Cruces area over since their airspace doesn't extent to there. Recent media reports and PR report from Holloman AFB, NM sound like people in the Las Cruces area should get used to the noise and impact even in Las Cruces where the public shouldn't be having any sonic boom activity or military jet activity. Those concerned over sonic booms in your area get the facts and do your own research on the topic.
just me

Las Cruces, NM

#3 Dec 2, 2011
TellThe Truth wrote:
The AF shouldn't be over the Las Cruces area over since their airspace doesn't extent to there....
Say what!?!?! You mean to say the AF planes should just fly over their own bases? Bwa ha ha ha....!
Kosher Frank

United States

#4 Dec 5, 2011
just me wrote:
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Say what!?!?! You mean to say the AF planes should just fly over their own bases? Bwa ha ha ha....!
I didn't know that there was an Air Force base in Las Cruces. Oh right because there isn't one.
AZmojave

Albuquerque, NM

#6 Jan 9, 2012
Whether planes "can" or "are able to" fly over Las Cruces, and whether they are "allowed" to fly super sonic in or out of WSMR airspace are two completely different things. It doesn't "sound" as if the af can select pilots that are able to operate a military jet well enough to NOT cause a sonic boom. The AF maintains that the booms over LC are occuring in the Tulurosa Basin...oh, please!
To date, the AF has not been able to supply "by what authority" they can go super sonic. One would think they could produce that information w/o too much effort...since they ARE flying super sonic.

Since: Sep 09

Location hidden

#7 Jan 9, 2012
AZmojave wrote:
Whether planes "can" or "are able to" fly over Las Cruces, and whether they are "allowed" to fly super sonic in or out of WSMR airspace are two completely different things. It doesn't "sound" as if the af can select pilots that are able to operate a military jet well enough to NOT cause a sonic boom. The AF maintains that the booms over LC are occuring in the Tulurosa Basin...oh, please!
To date, the AF has not been able to supply "by what authority" they can go super sonic. One would think they could produce that information w/o too much effort...since they ARE flying super sonic.
You can be sure that none of these professional pilots give a flyingphuck what you think about anything.

Dont like it - move, you will not be missed.
AZmojave

Albuquerque, NM

#8 Jan 9, 2012
Zig_Zag wrote:
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You can be sure that none of these professional pilots give a flyingphuck what you think about anything.
Dont like it - move, you will not be missed.
Gee, I don't think they should care about what I think, but they definitely should concentrate on China's attitude toward pilots that can't quite master their "profession". Oh, wait...what AM I talking about..what war did the AF ever "win"?

I am sure your friends in whatever N. eastern state you crawled out of are missing you...why don't YOU go home.

Since: Sep 09

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#9 Jan 10, 2012
AZmojave wrote:
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Gee, I don't think they should care about what I think, but they definitely should concentrate on China's attitude toward pilots that can't quite master their "profession". Oh, wait...what AM I talking about..what war did the AF ever "win"?
I am sure your friends in whatever N. eastern state you crawled out of are missing you...why don't YOU go home.
You can be sure that none of these professional pilots give a flyingphuck about "China's attitude toward pilots" or what you think about anything, nor do I.

While no single branch of the military can claim victory in any war, I do remember hearing about a airplane called Enola Gay that put an abrupt end to a global conflict a few years back.
AZmojave

Albuquerque, NM

#10 Jan 10, 2012
Zig_Zag wrote:
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You can be sure that none of these professional pilots give a flyingphuck about "China's attitude toward pilots" or what you think about anything, nor do I.
While no single branch of the military can claim victory in any war, I do remember hearing about a airplane called Enola Gay that put an abrupt end to a global conflict a few years back.
Really? I didn't know the AF had anything to do w Enola..I thought it was the ARMY air force. Hmmmm.
Since you seem to think you speak for all military pilots everywhere..you can be very sure that there are a few you do not. Furthermore - what are they wasting the taxpayers money on trainign FOR? I was under the impression it was for defense. But then, if you are a broke nation it would make no sense to worry about what the talent of the now cash rich natiion is, would it? Especially when you can get away w pretending booms over Las Cruces are a "necessary part" of training and not simply the incompetence of the pilots and scheduling authority.

Please do find your way back to the N East before inviting people to "move if they don't like your N East opinion".
paul

Las Cruces, NM

#11 Jan 10, 2012
AZmojave wrote:
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Really? I didn't know the AF had anything to do w Enola..I thought it was the ARMY air force. Hmmmm.
Since you seem to think you speak for all military pilots everywhere..you can be very sure that there are a few you do not. Furthermore - what are they wasting the taxpayers money on trainign FOR? I was under the impression it was for defense. But then, if you are a broke nation it would make no sense to worry about what the talent of the now cash rich natiion is, would it? Especially when you can get away w pretending booms over Las Cruces are a "necessary part" of training and not simply the incompetence of the pilots and scheduling authority.
Please do find your way back to the N East before inviting people to "move if they don't like your N East opinion".
You are clueless. Matter of fact, heard a sonic boom today. Felt good to hear it. The sound wave came from over at white sands.

I guess you never watched CNN when the air force blew the Iraqi armed forces off the map.

And that wasn't the Army Air Force. Pretty sure the USAF was established by then.

Speaking of leaving, since you obviously hate our military so much, why don't you move to China?

Since: Sep 09

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#12 Jan 10, 2012
AZmojave wrote:
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Really? I didn't know the AF had anything to do w Enola..I thought it was the ARMY air force. Hmmmm.
Since you seem to think you speak for all military pilots everywhere..you can be very sure that there are a few you do not. Furthermore - what are they wasting the taxpayers money on trainign FOR? I was under the impression it was for defense. But then, if you are a broke nation it would make no sense to worry about what the talent of the now cash rich natiion is, would it? Especially when you can get away w pretending booms over Las Cruces are a "necessary part" of training and not simply the incompetence of the pilots and scheduling authority.
Please do find your way back to the N East before inviting people to "move if they don't like your N East opinion".
If brains were dynamite you would be incapable of blowing your nose.

Try to be more specific when making your nonsensical comments and asking moronic questions.

The U.S. Air Force along wih the Army, Navy, Marines, Coast and National Gaurd all have their own rotary-wing and fixed-wing air force.

While your learning I will throw in a geography lesson, you're nowhere near the Mojave
this is the Chihuahuan desert, my birthplace and home.

Do not like it ? LEAVE you will not be missed.

AZmojave

Albuquerque, NM

#13 Jan 10, 2012
paul wrote:
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You are clueless. Matter of fact, heard a sonic boom today. Felt good to hear it. The sound wave came from over at white sands.
I guess you never watched CNN when the air force blew the Iraqi armed forces off the map.
And that wasn't the Army Air Force. Pretty sure the USAF was established by then.
Speaking of leaving, since you obviously hate our military so much, why don't you move to China?
Anyone that determines people shouldn't have the right to question the uses and abuses of any government entity really SHOULD move N Korea...they would be far happier in a country where that is not allowed. Bon voyage!
History is clearly not your strong suit, so you wouldn't understand the dangers of ignoring military readiness in an attempt to appear patriotic. You assume I "hate our military" b/c I dare to question a very specific part of the AF's operations? Logic is clearly not your strong suit, either.
No, I didn't see how the US AF, along w the navy and marines, were met with equal airpower in Iraq and it ended w no contest. I missed that all together!
AZmojave

Albuquerque, NM

#14 Jan 10, 2012
Zig_Zag wrote:
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If brains were dynamite you would be incapable of blowing your nose.
Try to be more specific when making your nonsensical comments and asking moronic questions.
The U.S. Air Force along wih the Army, Navy, Marines, Coast and National Gaurd all have their own rotary-wing and fixed-wing air force.
While your learning I will throw in a geography lesson, you're nowhere near the Mojave
this is the Chihuahuan desert, my birthplace and home.
Do not like it ? LEAVE you will not be missed.
Oh, I see the problem! You misunderstood me! I was talking about US military jets flying NORTH of the border...not dope smoking drug runners in a cessna filling up their zigzags.
watchdog1

Albuquerque, NM

#15 Jan 10, 2012
just me wrote:
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Say what!?!?! You mean to say the AF planes should just fly over their own bases? Bwa ha ha ha....!
Yes you jerk.
paul

Las Cruces, NM

#16 Jan 12, 2012
AZmojave wrote:
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Anyone that determines people shouldn't have the right to question the uses and abuses of any government entity really SHOULD move N Korea...they would be far happier in a country where that is not allowed. Bon voyage!
History is clearly not your strong suit, so you wouldn't understand the dangers of ignoring military readiness in an attempt to appear patriotic. You assume I "hate our military" b/c I dare to question a very specific part of the AF's operations? Logic is clearly not your strong suit, either.
No, I didn't see how the US AF, along w the navy and marines, were met with equal airpower in Iraq and it ended w no contest. I missed that all together!
These are military planes training over WSMR,(which happens to be military) I have not seen them this side of the Organs. Again, since you don't live here, how could you know?

No problem with questioning the Gov't! I do all the time, especially the local govt.

The air force did follow the correct process before they began the training. They also notify everyone the (approximate) time periods when this would occur. So far they haven't dropped any bombs on us!I don't see how our military (any branch) training (which is a necessary evil) harms the community. If there is damage incurred (windows usually) the military compensates for it. As a civilian, I believe it is a small price to pay.

Just curious, if your location is up in Albuquerque, don't you have a few air bases up there?

Not to mention enough nuclear material in your area to wipe us all off the map. I would be more concerned about that.

You would think that the folks most affected by this (Almogordo) would be posting also!

Peace out!
AZmojave

Albuquerque, NM

#17 Jan 12, 2012
paul wrote:
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These are military planes training over WSMR,(which happens to be military) I have not seen them this side of the Organs. Again, since you don't live here, how could you know?
No problem with questioning the Gov't! I do all the time, especially the local govt.
The air force did follow the correct process before they began the training. They also notify everyone the (approximate) time periods when this would occur. So far they haven't dropped any bombs on us!I don't see how our military (any branch) training (which is a necessary evil) harms the community. If there is damage incurred (windows usually) the military compensates for it. As a civilian, I believe it is a small price to pay.
Just curious, if your location is up in Albuquerque, don't you have a few air bases up there?
Not to mention enough nuclear material in your area to wipe us all off the map. I would be more concerned about that.
You would think that the folks most affected by this (Almogordo) would be posting also!
Peace out!
I am guessing that you are responding to my responses to “another poster”(that’s putting it politely) and not my original post? I simply wonder by what authority Holloman AF jets fly supersonic. Most bases simply put this type of information out there – I haven’t witnessed anyone accusing those installations of behaving in an unpatriotic manner.
Perhaps it is necessary for Holloman jets to fly supersonic, perhaps it is not. However, it is not “unavoidable”. Until the air force clarifies whether pilots are flying supersonic b /c of “skill issues” or because it is necessary for a specific type of training…that, too (along with authorization), is left unknown. Saying “we will cause sonic booms during training”, is a non-statement.
The AF does not pay for property damage – the taxpayer does. Not just local and/or state taxpayers – Federal (all)…including taxpayers in Albuquerque where I personally do not reside. The USAF is under the DoD, a Federal agency. Sonic booms also traumatize domestic and wild animals and put people in danger. Necessary and "b/c we can" are not the same - and the adverse affect are not negligable.
Where one resides is not necessarily where they are located when they post.
Supersonic flight had not yet been achieved when training started at Holloman, so there initial “process” would most likely not address sonic booms.

Since: Sep 09

Location hidden

#18 Jan 12, 2012
AZmojave wrote:
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I am guessing that you are responding to my responses to “another poster”(that’s putting it politely) and not my original post? I simply wonder by what authority Holloman AF jets fly supersonic. Most bases simply put this type of information out there – I haven’t witnessed anyone accusing those installations of behaving in an unpatriotic manner.
Perhaps it is necessary for Holloman jets to fly supersonic, perhaps it is not. However, it is not “unavoidable”. Until the air force clarifies whether pilots are flying supersonic b /c of “skill issues” or because it is necessary for a specific type of training…that, too (along with authorization), is left unknown. Saying “we will cause sonic booms during training”, is a non-statement.
The AF does not pay for property damage – the taxpayer does. Not just local and/or state taxpayers – Federal (all)…including taxpayers in Albuquerque where I personally do not reside. The USAF is under the DoD, a Federal agency. Sonic booms also traumatize domestic and wild animals and put people in danger. Necessary and "b/c we can" are not the same - and the adverse affect are not negligable.
Where one resides is not necessarily where they are located when they post.
Supersonic flight had not yet been achieved when training started at Holloman, so there initial “process” would most likely not address sonic booms.
Now that you mentioned the traumatized animals I understand, they are the ones that alert you to the sonic booms.
I was confused before because I know it is not possible for you to hear anything with your entire head shoved up your arse.
Gee

Alamogordo, NM

#19 Jan 19, 2012
watchdog1 wrote:
<quoted text>Yes you jerk.
Guess you are clueless about sonic booms and how sound travels. Study Science 101
lena

Franklin, MI

#20 Feb 9, 2012
Okay now all of those a few minutes ago were sonic booms? I opened the door as it happened and it shook. These are too close to town.
Wayne

Albuquerque, NM

#21 Feb 9, 2012
Whoa. Those really shook our house, starting abt 1:57pm. The ground really rumbled too. What caused those shakers?

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