Businesses believe code enforcement '...

Businesses believe code enforcement 'defeats the purpose' of advertising (4:31 p.m.)

There are 88 comments on the Las Cruces Sun-News story from Jun 5, 2011, titled Businesses believe code enforcement 'defeats the purpose' of advertising (4:31 p.m.). In it, Las Cruces Sun-News reports that:

Mike Marfiak, of Creative Invitations and Balloons, stands Friday in front of one of the flags he uses to advertise his business along Solano Drive.

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watchdog1

Albuquerque, NM

#41 Jun 6, 2011
Get a life wrote:
Most city codes specify how much signage you may have according to the square footage of your business. By adding signs and/or flags with your company name or what your business does is, therefore, against code. You are right that they rarely tell you this but, as a business owner, it is your responsibility to find out. The city could revert to a totally lawless society and then you could go shoot the codes officer (who was just doing his job) because you didn't like what he said. But of course other people could come and shoot you because they don't like what you said. Seems to me that obeying a few laws is easier and safer. If everyone would follow the rules and laws then there would be no need for more and more rules and laws to cover the loopholes that you find to skirt the law.
The Sky is Falling,The Sky Is Falling. Help Help.
Michael S Marfiak

Rio Rancho, NM

#42 Jun 6, 2011
The code cannot be explained cogently by City Administrators.

One feels as though they are in an 'Abbott & Costello' skit, "Who's on first?", because we always wind up back at "It's code."

No reasonable explanation as to public safety, or public detriment is offered. Lots of opinions, but no clear cut information: "It's code."

People who do not "question authority" are in the classification of 'sheeple', being led to slaughter by the erosion of personal rights.

No one's rights are being affected other than small business owners and operators by the very people who claim to be concerned about "economic development". Dona Ana County has one of the highest unemployment rates in the nation. Anyone want to dispute that fact? Small business is the generator of jobs.

I can't tell you how many people have come to my establishment seeking employment. I tell them that hopefully, we will be able to hire, but until the economic climate improves we will remain a 'Mom and Pop' operation.

Everyone seems to be concerned about "climate change". The economic climate will not improve in Las Cruces so long as the City takes punitive actions against companies doing business within it.

“In the Desert”

Since: May 08

New York City

#43 Jun 6, 2011
vote wrote:
remember this when no business Connor runs for mayor.. She is pushing this sign thing through and then trying to act like she is pro business.. we are not going to fall for that one!!
I thought she was leaving town? She is not running for anything.
Desertdawg

AOL

#44 Jun 6, 2011
Fed Up in NM wrote:
I agree that too many signs can be an eyesore, or even a hazard. So, why only limit the number of signs that have a corporate logo? Why not limit the total number of signs?
Probably a good idea.
My guess is that the regulation is written the way it is because it's pretty unlikely that a business would go to the trouble and expense of putting up messageless banners or signs.
I'm all for good, prominent business signage, but there has to be a limit and people are always going to disagree about what that should be.
The town of Mesilla has gone over the edge with restrictions, making signs so small and placement so restrictive they're not very effective, and I've seen businesses suffer as a result. But going the other way (unrestricted crapola) is just as bad, maybe worse.
If you see a photo of "Las Cruces" in state and national publications the chances are it's really a pic of Mesilla. Why? Because it looks good and is appealing. This is a worthwhile goal, though they've gone a bit too far, imho.
Left in Las Cruces

Santa Fe, NM

#45 Jun 6, 2011
God knows that if there is one thing we don't get enough of in this country it is advertising.

Now excuse me, I've got to go learn the one rule as seen on TV for losing weight, discovered by a mom, that the medical community doesn't want me to know about.
Desertdawg

AOL

#46 Jun 6, 2011
Michael S Marfiak wrote:
The code cannot be explained cogently by City Administrators.
One feels as though they are in an 'Abbott & Costello' skit, "Who's on first?", because we always wind up back at "It's code."
No reasonable explanation as to public safety, or public detriment is offered. Lots of opinions, but no clear cut information: "It's code."
People who do not "question authority" are in the classification of 'sheeple', being led to slaughter by the erosion of personal rights.
No one's rights are being affected other than small business owners and operators by the very people who claim to be concerned about "economic development". Dona Ana County has one of the highest unemployment rates in the nation. Anyone want to dispute that fact? Small business is the generator of jobs.
I can't tell you how many people have come to my establishment seeking employment. I tell them that hopefully, we will be able to hire, but until the economic climate improves we will remain a 'Mom and Pop' operation.
Everyone seems to be concerned about "climate change". The economic climate will not improve in Las Cruces so long as the City takes punitive actions against companies doing business within it.
Do you employ anyone other than family members, Mr. Marfiak? How many jobs have you generated? How many jobs will your flags generate? My guess is none....but I'd love to know.
I'm not sure if you get out of town much, but if you do you must certainly know that Las Cruces has suffered far LESS in the economic downturn than many, many cities of similar size. Las Cruces has seen tremendous growth in the past decade, so your predictions of doom and poverty are hyperbole at best. Just look at all the national recognition for quality of life and business opportunity:

http://www.lascrucescvb.org/html/las_cruces_a...
And for business opportunity:
http://www.forbes.com/lists/2010/5/business-p...

You've gotten your publicity, sir....how about getting back to work instead of insulting many potential customers by referring to them as inferior (to you, I guess) "sheeple".
Builders of party balloon empires don't show contempt for customers or defecate in their own nest. Think about it.
Good luck to you.
Pedestrian

Las Cruces, NM

#47 Jun 6, 2011
The verticle "wind flags" are so ubiquitous you can't even see the businesses anymore. Stop it!

And stop the ubiquitous weekend car washes too. We're in a drought. Stop being stupid!
Fred

Las Cruces, NM

#48 Jun 6, 2011
Our socialist city government at work.
Desertdawg

AOL

#49 Jun 6, 2011
Michael S Marfiak wrote:
Dona Ana County has one of the highest unemployment rates in the nation. Anyone want to dispute that fact?.

In the age of the internet and Google you should be careful about such invitations...it took about 10 seconds.
In April 2011 the unemployed rate is 7.1 in Dona Ana Cty.
http://www.google.com/publicdata...

By my quick count, only 12 states in the nation have a lower unemployment rate than Dona Ana. Arizona is 9.3 and "business friendly" Texas
is at 8.0% New Mexico's is 7.6%
http://www.bls.gov/lau/

An old lawyer friend of mine says "Never ask a question you don't already know the answer to" in court...probably true here too. ;)
Jett Krash

San Antonio, TX

#50 Jun 6, 2011
Observation #1 Appears LC is becoming "Santa Fe Lite" and/or Boulder Colorado in running off small business.
#2 I love the photo of the "sensitive pony tail guy", ear ring and probably wearing berkenstox n' sox, arms folded in an obvious staged shot.
Captain America

Huntsville, AL

#51 Jun 6, 2011
watchdog1 wrote:
You have a "Progressive" Mayor & City Council. Until you remove that whole group they will continue to churn out more and more "we know what is best for you" agendas.
They will continue to spend money like water on half baked schemes,and unneeded projects that suit "their" fancy.
They will continue to dream up new revenue producing ordinances and laws to fund their projects and twisted dreams on what "they" think your town should be like.
Unfortunately new people are moving here from the East & West Coast where they are used to being subjected to this kind of "nanny" government so they know no better.
The only way out of this insanity is to vote,or recall these rascals out of power.
Hey genius, when was this code implemented? If it was prior to those currently in power, then you're a moron.
Captain America

Huntsville, AL

#52 Jun 6, 2011
Jett Krash wrote:
Observation #1 Appears LC is becoming "Santa Fe Lite" and/or Boulder Colorado in running off small business.
#2 I love the photo of the "sensitive pony tail guy", ear ring and probably wearing berkenstox n' sox, arms folded in an obvious staged shot.
Which of those cities has a lower median income than las cruces?
Captain America

Huntsville, AL

#53 Jun 6, 2011
Logic Flaw wrote:
What a second? So, if a sign says "Welcome" and does not advertise the business, then it is allowed? No discussions of safety or the public good, just not allowed? Sounds like the city is out to get businesses ...
How ' bout I make a huge sign advertising my business and stick it up in front of your house
Al Reine

United States

#54 Jun 6, 2011
When will the flag Police EVER, EVER go after the Illegals that put THE Mexican Flag up higher, and over the American Flag, Cesear Chevez Farm Flag, or the New Mexico State Flag ? Maybe the Flag Police will only go after the (P/C)on orders of Obama and A/G Eric Holder ? Remember the Big Obama Flag during election ? The Big O Flag on the Campaign Trail, and all of those Yes We Can Flags ? Big Brother is Now in Las Cruces New Mexico !
Harold D Oliver

Las Vegas, NV

#55 Jun 6, 2011
So that means that the Ameican Flag and MIA is also in violation of the sign code.
Ricky Tafoya

Las Cruces, NM

#56 Jun 6, 2011
Here's a flag for every business. City Codes Enforcement SUCKS!
Captain America

Huntsville, AL

#57 Jun 6, 2011
Harold D Oliver wrote:
So that means that the Ameican Flag and MIA is also in violation of the sign code.
Which business do those constitute a sign for?
watchdog1

Albuquerque, NM

#58 Jun 6, 2011
Captain America wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey genius, when was this code implemented? If it was prior to those currently in power, then you're a moron.
Take a look at the "whole picture" of what has been happening in this City since this Administration has been in power. It is not so much this one particular code. If you like being led around and being told how every aspect of your life should be then so be it. I prefer not to.
And I'll take the Genius title,you can have the other one if you like.(Just kidding).
Captain America

Huntsville, AL

#59 Jun 6, 2011
watchdog1 wrote:
<quoted text>Take a look at the "whole picture" of what has been happening in this City since this Administration has been in power. It is not so much this one particular code. If you like being led around and being told how every aspect of your life should be then so be it. I prefer not to.
And I'll take the Genius title,you can have the other one if you like.(Just kidding).
I haven't been told to do anything in particular.
Ayahuasca Shaman

Rio Rancho, NM

#60 Jun 6, 2011
Desertdawg wrote:
<quoted text>
In the age of the internet and Google you should be careful about such invitations...it took about 10 seconds.
In April 2011 the unemployed rate is 7.1 in Dona Ana Cty.
http://www.google.com/publicdata...
By my quick count, only 12 states in the nation have a lower unemployment rate than Dona Ana. Arizona is 9.3 and "business friendly" Texas
is at 8.0% New Mexico's is 7.6%
http://www.bls.gov/lau/
An old lawyer friend of mine says "Never ask a question you don't already know the answer to" in court...probably true here too. ;)
7.1 unemployment must sound good to a government slug like yourself. Typical.....You should be working, but you're on Topix instead.

Government has a 0% unemployment rate. You should try your luck in the 'real world'. You'd be lucky if you're qualified to flip burgers.

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