PMC opens Las Animas Clinic - Lamar L...

PMC opens Las Animas Clinic - Lamar Ledger

There are 15 comments on the Lamar Ledger story from Feb 17, 2010, titled PMC opens Las Animas Clinic - Lamar Ledger. In it, Lamar Ledger reports that:

The Las Animas Family Practice open house was held on February 12 from 2 p.m. to 7 p.m. Approximately 60 guests toured the clinic open house.

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panther plumber

Dalton, NE

#1 Feb 18, 2010
News Flash:
509 patients from Las Animas now have to
pay before they are treated.
OverNOut

Westcliffe, CO

#2 Feb 18, 2010
Hospital Board Elections are coming up!
Lamar sport

Holly, CO

#3 Feb 18, 2010
Now they can be twice as bad
Carny

Missoula, MT

#4 Feb 18, 2010
panther plumber wrote:
News Flash:
509 patients from Las Animas now have to
pay before they are treated.
Instead of the rest of us paying when they don't. I like that ...
ColoradoRick

Westcliffe, CO

#5 Feb 18, 2010
Oh, yeah, Carny, and maybe someday you'll not have a job or health care for you or one of your family members... and maybe they'll start to get sick and they'll need to go to more than just the clinic for a shot or basic procedure... and then maybe you'll be referred to a specialist or need to go get a cat scan or MRI or see a heart doctor... oh, and then maybe they'll say you need to pay up front before they can have that 'procedure', and of course you cant... and then perhaps you'll have to wait while they get worse and worse while the clinic tries to treat symptoms without knowing the exact cause... OH, and then MAYBE your loved one will drop out on the f'n floor and you can take them to the ER who may finally put them in the hospital and run tests... and then maybe they'll catch and treat what is really wrong with them before it kills them... maybe...
surprised

Holly, CO

#6 Feb 19, 2010
..or maybe she'll keep her job and pay for her healthcare.

If you THAT sick ricky, the ER will treat you regardless of ability to pay...then when you don't pay. People like Carny will, through higher taxes, higher costs, and higher insurance premiums. Guess you better pray she keeps her job and insurance.
out west

Dalton, NE

#7 Feb 19, 2010
ColoradoRick wrote:
Oh, yeah, Carny, and maybe someday you'll not have a job or health care for you or one of your family members... and maybe they'll start to get sick and they'll need to go to more than just the clinic for a shot or basic procedure... and then maybe you'll be referred to a specialist or need to go get a cat scan or MRI or see a heart doctor... oh, and then maybe they'll say you need to pay up front before they can have that 'procedure', and of course you cant... and then perhaps you'll have to wait while they get worse and worse while the clinic tries to treat symptoms without knowing the exact cause... OH, and then MAYBE your loved one will drop out on the f'n floor and you can take them to the ER who may finally put them in the hospital and run tests... and then maybe they'll catch and treat what is really wrong with them before it kills them... maybe...
Put your big girl panties on & relax..........
disheartened

Drummond, MT

#8 Feb 19, 2010
Well said Carny. Those of us who actually work for a living and pay insurance to cover our families are behind you. Some of us are actually sick of carrying the load for all those who choose not to work. Notice I said choose not to....not who cannot. There is a difference.

I am involved in the financial component of healthcare and I am telling you it is no joke. As a previous reader eluded to...it's perfectly acceptable for a person to go buy a big screen television or surround sound at Walmart and pay for it (of course). Walmart is not going to allow them to walk out with their little treasure without paying. Why then would it be acceptable to expect free healthcare? I'm not quite sure how that happened. They are receiving a service and they should be paying. If PMC and other healthcare services don't start finding a way to get their customers to pay you all won't have to worry about PMC's "unfair" policies. There won't be a PMC (or any other healthcare facility) to provide service anymore. It's not a joke people! This is real and the heads of these healthcare providers are not stretching the truth.

Your ERs are being used as clinics. Your ambulances are being used as taxi's. These are profound abuses of a very expensive system that was never designed for these purposes.

Oh, and surprised is absolutely correct. If you show up at the ER and the doctor assesses you and feels you need immediate help...guess what? You WILL get it. Let's get the story right people.

You keep it up Carny. A bunch of us are with you.
tired

Missoula, MT

#9 Feb 19, 2010
Yes, disheartened, it is a problem. That's why I enjoy having to lie to PMC that I have health insurance so that I can get the discounted rates that those who don't have health insurance get. And I love the no accountability policiy that PMC presently has. So sorry we screwed up everything we did and charged you for all this and required you to have more tests for something you never had, but just remember how better you feel because we proved you don't have whatever we thought you had. But you've got insurance so you can pay so no hurt for us. This place scares me and their administration scares me even more.
true

Westcliffe, CO

#10 Feb 20, 2010
YES PMC lacks in responsibility to its patients. I have a job and pay for my own health insurance, but PMC has problems and it starts with the top!
My point of View

Lamar, CO

#11 Feb 24, 2010
Where do those of us fit that hold jobs, pay our bills but have been dropped from insurance because of something we have in our medical files that the insurance companies dont want to mess with?? Now we are lableled "uninsurable" and cant get insured anywhere. The only way we have to pay the bills is thru payments. We are the ones that rarely go to doctors let alone an ER. But should we NEED to go we need payments to be allowed. Thats my only complaint with PMC. Some of us dont abuse the system but on certain occasions may find we need to be put in the hospital. Where do the non medicaid...non medicare.. non indigent...uninsured and working people fit??
OverNOut

Westcliffe, CO

#12 Feb 25, 2010
true wrote:
YES PMC lacks in responsibility to its patients. I have a job and pay for my own health insurance, but PMC has problems and it starts with the top!
Board elections are coming up. The country(in general)is figuring out that you can't keep doing the same thing and expect a different outcome! So it should be "out with the old and in with the new". It's time for the two long time members to find another hobby! Please vote!!
PMC Employee

Lamar, CO

#13 Mar 26, 2010
tired wrote:
Yes, disheartened, it is a problem. That's why I enjoy having to lie to PMC that I have health insurance so that I can get the discounted rates that those who don't have health insurance get. And I love the no accountability policiy that PMC presently has. So sorry we screwed up everything we did and charged you for all this and required you to have more tests for something you never had, but just remember how better you feel because we proved you don't have whatever we thought you had. But you've got insurance so you can pay so no hurt for us. This place scares me and their administration scares me even more.
You don't have to lie about having insurance to get the 40% discount. Everyone is eligible for this. We just won't bill your insurance and give you a 40% discount. When you are checking in, let them know that you don't want to have your insurance billed and would like to have the 40% discount.
tired

Missoula, MT

#14 Mar 26, 2010
So I don't have to lie? Hmmm.. Then why are there two levels of payment? If I have insurance wIfI have insurance why would I want to go down with 40% more? If I don't have insurance why would I sign up for 40% more? Read the PMC Website::
POLICY
A Self-Pay patient is one who is responsible, either personally or through a guarantor, for the payment of all of the charges assessed for services provided to the patient.
Any patient meeting the above definition of a self pay patient will be given a 40% discount on charges if payment for those charges is made within 30 days of the original statement date. A 20% discount will be given for charges if payment is made within 60 days of the original statement date. NO DISCOUNTS WILL BE GIVEN TO INSURED PATIENTS.
Care to try again?
Unknown

Claremore, OK

#15 Mar 27, 2010
tired wrote:
So I don't have to lie? Hmmm.. Then why are there two levels of payment? If I have insurance wIfI have insurance why would I want to go down with 40% more? If I don't have insurance why would I sign up for 40% more? Read the PMC Website::
POLICY
A Self-Pay patient is one who is responsible, either personally or through a guarantor, for the payment of all of the charges assessed for services provided to the patient.
Any patient meeting the above definition of a self pay patient will be given a 40% discount on charges if payment for those charges is made within 30 days of the original statement date. A 20% discount will be given for charges if payment is made within 60 days of the original statement date. NO DISCOUNTS WILL BE GIVEN TO INSURED PATIENTS.
Care to try again?
BWAAHAHAHAA!!!

Tired,
Does it surprise you that PMC Employee is not familiar with PMC policies? I does not surprise me in the least.

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