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3rd gen lansdale resident

Perkasie, PA

#1 Jun 5, 2011
anyone else see this new bar for what it is? a gigantic monuement to the ongoing destruction of what long ago was a great community and a place where you wanted to live in, work in, raise a family in, and retire in. i lived every year of my life there for 30 years and am 3rd generation to grow up there. this is not some tirade about the "good old days" or some anti alcohol lecture. this is about what anyone else like me should know deep down and feel. people in position to profit from the ruining of lansdale have been doing so for years, the current crop of leeches are only continueing what others have been doing since the 1970s. mike riccio in this case with his bringing another bar to the center and heart of the town he also grew up in, shame on you mike. this town in the grips of unemployment, lack of jobs, lack of affordable homes, and lack of anything for the youth, needed another (expensive i.e. upscale) bar like a hole in the head. i am sickened by the site of this "irish" F.U. to the community. continually i see honest business owners trying to give back to the community run out by lack of support by town council and high rents, while molly maguires which gives nothing positive to the community is allowed to occupy almost an entire block to promote the furthering of alcohol abuse, bringing in outsiders to cause trouble, give their money to no one but the bar, and create another place to breed drug activity.just as riccardis, morrones, and fifth street pub were allowed to do for YEARS with total knowledge of local police and officials.they try to dupe the locals with the same rhetoric to appease them by saying this bars different, higher prices, fancier decor, no tolerance for riff-raff. its just rhetoric, in time all the riff- raff roll in, as do the drugs (newsflash- drugs arent just among low income types, it is sold to ALL types) in time prices will come down as the novelty of a "new bar" wears off, and the LOCALS who will comprise of their core customers stop coming in because they cant afford it, then it will be a shining shameful embarassement to anyone who has any shame left as it becomes another problem like ricks, morrones, fifth street, and others. everyone who lived in lansdale when it was still nice left, no ones left, the scumbags who lined their pockets with the degradation of a community made sure of that. i loved growing up there, now i cant even drive thru it because of the sadness and anger i am engulfed with when i do.the one shining exception to these types is BOB KRAMER. bob you are a true angel among demons. the boys and girls club is the only youth organization (the only) to give back unselfishly to the generations and generations of misguided, BORED kids> thank you bob! if anyone(and im sure you dont live there anymore) hears me and understands, sound off! we failed in not taking a stand years ago, but in our defense we kind of had the rug pulled out underneath us, the day the tile, and countless other employers faded away. we should have stood up in council meetings and systematically removed these ticks and leeches from their positions of power and corruption. anyone disagree? then tell me how is it that after 30 some years, sidewalks, residental roads, sewer, electrical, and hazmat areas remain untouched? anyone who grew up there knows this! where did all the tax payers money go! the kugel ball? the lofts on main and valley forge? who do you think paid for all that? in a perfect hypothetical situation the bars would burn down (just like the mysterious fire of lans bowl) with all these scumbags inside, along with those lofts , the kugel ball, and the condos soon to go up on the property of the once great american olean tile. shame on all of those who contributed to the raping and pilfering of a once great community. may you all burn in hell.
Suas Do Chul

Philadelphia, PA

#2 Sep 6, 2011
Wow,you're bitter & racist.I love that Bar/restaurant.It is upscale & the food is great;what's not to like.
concerned parent

Souderton, PA

#3 Sep 12, 2011
Suas Do Chul wrote:
Wow,you're bitter & racist.I love that Bar/restaurant.It is upscale & the food is great;what's not to like.
How am I racist? Did you actually read what I wrote? I'm Irish so I hope your not calling me racist because of the fact that it's an "Irish pub". And bitter? Your absolutely right, I am. That was a huge reason for what I wrote. Again did you actually read it? Anymore brilliant comments? People like you don't even get it, keep living in your bubble, you'll be nice and safe in there. This country will never recover from where it is as long as everybody in every community continues to blindly live their life like they are the only one in it . Let the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. And every generation will have to struggle harder from the ignorance and complacency of the previous one.
concerned parent

Souderton, PA

#4 Sep 12, 2011
Suas Do Chul wrote:
Wow,you're bitter & racist.I love that Bar/restaurant.It is upscale & the food is great;what's not to like.
Glad you like that place, as rents and real estate keep climbing, and jobs keep dissappearing and wages stay stagnant, maybe they will let you wait tables to be able to afford to eat there. Irish yuppies setting up a blight on an already damaged community is all it is. Go back to Ireland we don't need another place for alcoholism, drug abuse, and crime to further grow and prosper in lansdale. Bring back jobs not create more places to drown our sorrows.
Really Irish

Quakertown, PA

#5 Sep 15, 2011
concerned parent wrote:
<quoted text>
Glad you like that place, as rents and real estate keep climbing, and jobs keep dissappearing and wages stay stagnant, maybe they will let you wait tables to be able to afford to eat there. Irish yuppies setting up a blight on an already damaged community is all it is. Go back to Ireland we don't need another place for alcoholism, drug abuse, and crime to further grow and prosper in lansdale. Bring back jobs not create more places to drown our sorrows.
Get a grip,nobody forces anyone to drink or do drugs.People can enjoy a night out for dinner or a drink without getting loaded.You make negative comments calling them yuppies because they worked hard & started a business.I'm Irish,they are hard workers & nice people.I doubt if you are Irish,sounds like you have no self-control.Associating their Irish business with alcoholism & drugs is racist,not to mention "go back to Ireland".
concerned parent

Souderton, PA

#6 Sep 16, 2011
Really Irish wrote:
<quoted text>Get a grip,nobody forces anyone to drink or do drugs.People can enjoy a night out for dinner or a drink without getting loaded.You make negative comments calling them yuppies because they worked hard & started a business.I'm Irish,they are hard workers & nice people.I doubt if you are Irish,sounds like you have no self-control.Associating their Irish business with alcoholism & drugs is racist,not to mention "go back to Ireland".
I'm not associating their bar with drugs, it's what will gravitate to it, and yes your right responsible people have an absolute right to go out for dinner and drinks, what your missing is how many places that serves liquor does lansdale need? How many ones are there up the road in montgomeryville? Do we need one on every corner? You obviously didn't get it, lansdale is a community ( or was) these bars aren't improving the quality of life they are turning lansdale into a place to go drink. What parents are going to want to raise kids there when the brewpubs opens and the bar crowds start coming in with all the negatives that always surround it? You obviously didn't grow up there and don't have a clue, and as far as being Irish , my family on both sides are 4th generation Pennsylvanian Irish , I'm the 3 rd gen from lansdale, what the he'll are you a quarter Irish on your stepdads side, who moved to the area a couple years ago? Don't act like you understand and don't speak on behalf of a bunch of parasites sucking the last of the blue blood out of lansdale. It's heartbreaking to watch the circus that the greedy profiteers have turned my beloved childhood town into. You will all burn in eternal damnation.
concerned parent

Souderton, PA

#7 Sep 16, 2011
Really Irish wrote:
<quoted text>Get a grip,nobody forces anyone to drink or do drugs.People can enjoy a night out for dinner or a drink without getting loaded.You make negative comments calling them yuppies because they worked hard & started a business.I'm Irish,they are hard workers & nice people.I doubt if you are Irish,sounds like you have no self-control.Associating their Irish business with alcoholism & drugs is racist,not to mention "go back to Ireland".
I love that I can't express my opinion on here about something like this that is the hard truth that has hurt many people without some blind outsiders calling me negative. I hope you oblivious people have to experience real hardships so you can fathom what I'm saying. But I guess mommy and daddy put the silver spoons in your mouths and shipped you off to the safe secluded college of your choice and then you got a nice safe cushy job and life has just been handed to you. Let me guess your from an upscale suburb far from here, and you work at Merck or something similar. Your as bad as the people I'm speaking of, real community is forever lost with the infestation of these termites .the phrase " in the name of progress" or "revitalization" is always used to mask the real name " destruction" of a community. It never had to be this way. Even now, boycott these places, out of towners from parking near them, protest, put them out of business, show up every month at board meetings and demand them to bring back real jobs, ones that offer real wages with benefits for families. Not.waitress jobs, demand activities and youth leagues for children. Lansdale has industrial and commercial space Everywhere!!! There are fields for sports all over, completely neglected but they are there! There is no reason not to do so, that is true revitalization! Not the bloodletting that is occurring now. Take back what was once ours.

Since: Oct 11

Doylestown, PA

#8 Oct 5, 2011
Molly Maguires is exactly where it should be and here is why.
-You stated, "this town in the grips of unemployment, lack of jobs, lack of affordable homes, and lack of anything for the youth, needed another (expensive i.e. upscale) bar like a hole in the head." Molly Maguires created jobs. There are plenty of affordable homes in Lansdale. Go check out www.everyhomes.com . You have the boys and girls club, the YMCA and the library as well as many after school extra cirricular activities.

Aside of the alcohol, Molly's brings entertainment to the area and also draws more of an upscale clientel as compared to the rest of the bars in the borough. You compared it to Riccarrdi's, fifth street pub. You have either never been inside this Resturaunt/Bar or you are just oblivious to know or see the difference. You can not expect the borough to turn down an upscale business to operate in the borough because its police force may or may not be adequate.

Molly Maguires is also the focal point 2nd to the Performing Arts theater in the revitalization of downtown Lansdale. Molly maguires payed for the new streetscape along side of thier building on wood st., including the side of the street against National Auto. If you want to see how much of a staple in revitalization Molly's is, review documents of revitalization in Pheonixville Borough. Downtown Lansdale is a dump. Period. Run down buildings, mom and pop stores that somehow made it though the retail explosion of Montgomery Township just dont cut it anymore. Come on, Carl's TV, kitchen appliance parts store, unlicensed resturaunt, Indian quick mart with no quick parking? These are stores or tenants occupying space in the borough that could be used to bring commerce or valuable retail onto Main St.

The loft's topic you brough up? So you would rather see 2 of the largest buildings in Lansdale sit unoccupied and falling apart? Hmmm. The borough creates more of a tax revenue by having the them renovated and OCCUPIED. New stores were built, new homes were created, more jobs were brought to the borough.

I can go on and on, but I really dont feel like wasting my time on someone form PERKASIE! By the way, I hang out with a fairly decent group of people form Perkasie (which is a very nice town, i must say) in Lansdale and at the two newest bars (Molly's and Montella's), they say that they wish thier town had something "like this". Bottom line, if you have nothing good to say about my town then do us all a favor an do not drive through. Or better yet, wait another year and then drive through and see if you still think the same.
concerned parent

Souderton, PA

#9 Oct 6, 2011
st80ugfd80 wrote:
Molly Maguires is exactly where it should be and here is why.
-You stated, "this town in the grips of unemployment, lack of jobs, lack of affordable homes, and lack of anything for the youth, needed another (expensive i.e. upscale) bar like a hole in the head." Molly Maguires created jobs. There are plenty of affordable homes in Lansdale. Go check out www.everyhomes.com . You have the boys and girls club, the YMCA and the library as well as many after school extra cirricular activities.

Aside of the alcohol, Molly's brings entertainment to the area and also draws more of an upscale clientel as compared to the rest of the bars in the borough. You compared it to Riccarrdi's, fifth street pub. You have either never been inside this Resturaunt/Bar or you are just oblivious to know or see the difference. You can not expect the borough to turn down an upscale business to operate in the borough because its police force may or may not be adequate.

Molly Maguires is also the focal point 2nd to the Performing Arts theater in the revitalization of downtown Lansdale. Molly maguires payed for the new streetscape along side of thier building on wood st., including the side of the street against National Auto. If you want to see how much of a staple in revitalization Molly's is, review documents of revitalization in Pheonixville Borough. Downtown Lansdale is a dump. Period. Run down buildings, mom and pop stores that somehow made it though the retail explosion of Montgomery Township just dont cut it anymore. Come on, Carl's TV, kitchen appliance parts store, unlicensed resturaunt, Indian quick mart with no quick parking? These are stores or tenants occupying space in the borough that could be used to bring commerce or valuable retail onto Main St.

The loft's topic you brough up? So you would rather see 2 of the largest buildings in Lansdale sit unoccupied and falling apart? Hmmm. The borough creates more of a tax revenue by having the them renovated and OCCUPIED. New stores were built, new homes were created, more jobs were brought to the borough.

I can go on and on, but I really dont feel like wasting my time on someone form PERKASIE! By the way, I hang out with a fairly decent group of people form Perkasie (which is a very nice town, i must say) in Lansdale and at the two newest bars (Molly's and Montella's), they say that they wish thier town had something "like this". Bottom line, if you have nothing good to say about my town then do us all a favor an do not drive through. Or better yet, wait another year and then drive through and see if you still think the same.
I was very happy to see your reply was well thought out, argued intelligently, and articulated very nicely! You made my day, usually all the replies are very immature and dull. I respect your view and although I must disagree , it is a pleasure to respond to your opinion. I fall to see how that bar is bringing any sustainable jobs to the area. It seems like what your implying is jobs for builders who come in from other areas. I don't know where these new homes are being built? Or where any " affordable housing might be, or for that matter even an affordable apt. I have to strongly take offense to your comment of me being an out of towner and your claim to lansdale being your town. You must have not read that I lived there from 0 yrs old to 31! I just moved out here three years ago. I am third generation lansdale, I could walk the streets blindfolded. My wife still works in one of the small businesses you imply should leave, she makes a good living wage and provides a necessary and positive function to the community. And her business gets no support from the borough. You need to re read my posts and rethink your position and maybe look at things with a fresh perspective, one thing I agree with you on, downtown is a dump! Been that way since the 70s

Since: Oct 11

Philadelphia, PA

#10 Oct 6, 2011
@Concerned parent:
Thank you for the complement! Let me just tackle some of the questions or statements!
Jobs:
What used to be there - A real estate office that employeed maybe 3 or 4 people.
What is now there - a bustling resturaunt/bar that employes 30 people.

What used to be there - "The tubro building" Two very large unoccupied industrial buildings (for the most part).
What is there now - Starbucks, hair salon, nail salon, deli, pizza hut, walgreens to name a few with 2nd floor offices.(all new constructions which created jobs to build for 2 years.) The second building (along Derstine Ave.) has been renovated beautifully into 100 loft style units which has created new homes.

What used to be there - "Santarians" then an ugly eyesore of an abandoned building. Was supposed to be demolished. Was saved by a developer.
What is there now - "The Silk Factory" at least 100 studio style units. Again created jobs, although temporary, to build and brought new housing to the borough.

What used to be there - "Carolines" (broad and jenkins). A rundown looking building that could never keep a tenant. A car drove into the front porch and the damage sat there for nearly 2 years and unoccupied.
What is there now - The owners of Guiseppe's Pizza opened a resturaunt/bar called "Montella's" Not as nice as Molly Maguires but certainly more upscale compared to The Junction House or Panico's (formerly Molitieres). You should see the inside of this building. Very nice. The outside was renovated and painted nicely.

What used to be there - Delapidated sidewalks along main street and plenty of tree's.
What is there now - The streetscape project is near completion along main and broad street. Including all new sidewalks with tasteful brick pavers and edges, streetlights, meters, benches, bike racks and new trees.

What used to be there - The armpit of Lansdale. The Lansdale Eyesore. Im talking about Madison Parking lot.
What is going to be there -(part of the street scape project) All the same features of the street scape project metnioned above.

People dont understand that change takes time. A project that the borough is trying to undertake is that of a lengthy one. It will still take a year or two maybe three to complete the project that the borough started to plan back in 2001. They modeled this project after the Ambler, Souderton, Skippack and Pheonixville. It takes time to complete, secure money, book the projects and plan.

Molly's and Montella's may have come too early but when you have decent people walking the streets again to see a show at the theater (That I hope comes through....again) or shop at some of the new stores that may come to the borough. You'll know that the planned worked.

I myself really want to open an authentic Italian Market in the Borough. Hopefully somewhere on Main St. But I need to be convinced that the borough is conducting this project in such a way and has the mindset of bringing people to the borough to spend time here and bring the traffic needed to run a successful business. Right now its not there. Its better than 3 years ago, but its still not convincing.

The bad people or "riff raff" is something that you will never get rid of. They are everywhere. They are in the small towns, big cities, quiet countries and countries at war. A new bar or a streetscape project will not get rid of them or make it worse. It has nothing to do with a bar or alcohol or drugs. It was to do with people are brought up in today's society. Bad parenting and bad decisions are to blame. Dont want your kids to do drugs? Then how about you stop doing drugs yourself.(not pointing fingers) Just making a point.

I hope you enjoy this!
If you would like to talk more, let me know. Ill give you my email.

Since: Oct 11

Philadelphia, PA

#11 Oct 6, 2011
@Concerned Parent
I do have a bone to pick with one of your statements.
"Glad you like that place, as rents and real estate keep climbing, and jobs keep dissappearing and wages stay stagnant, maybe they will let you wait tables to be able to afford to eat there. Irish yuppies setting up a blight on an already damaged community is all it is. Go back to Ireland we don't need another place for alcoholism, drug abuse, and crime to further grow and prosper in lansdale. Bring back jobs not create more places to drown our sorrows."

Thats pretty rough.
I gotta say that I am first generation in US on my Mothers side of the family. My Mother and the family came here from Italy in the 1960's. They came here looking for new life and a chance to be something or do something. They worked in factories, learned a trade and provided for thier families. Generally those that imigrate here from other countries are far more hard working people than those who are were born and raised here and they work for far much less money than others. You know, because thats ok. Far much less money than others is still a lot more than they made back in thier home counties. "Go back to Ireland" is a harsh statement.

We all grew up with ambitions and dreams of what we wanted to be when we grew up. I wanted to be a Meteorologist. Its not what I do now however it was a dream. Some grow up dreaming of a better life and leave what they worked so hard to have to come to a better place. We should all be proud and have pride that we live in a country, that to this day people of other countries that are less fortunate, wish they could live in.
concerned parent

Souderton, PA

#12 Oct 6, 2011
st80ugfd80 wrote:
@Concerned Parent
I do have a bone to pick with one of your statements.
"Glad you like that place, as rents and real estate keep climbing, and jobs keep dissappearing and wages stay stagnant, maybe they will let you wait tables to be able to afford to eat there. Irish yuppies setting up a blight on an already damaged community is all it is. Go back to Ireland we don't need another place for alcoholism, drug abuse, and crime to further grow and prosper in lansdale. Bring back jobs not create more places to drown our sorrows."

Thats pretty rough.
I gotta say that I am first generation in US on my Mothers side of the family. My Mother and the family came here from Italy in the 1960's. They came here looking for new life and a chance to be something or do something. They worked in factories, learned a trade and provided for thier families. Generally those that imigrate here from other countries are far more hard working people than those who are were born and raised here and they work for far much less money than others. You know, because thats ok. Far much less money than others is still a lot more than they made back in thier home counties. "Go back to Ireland" is a harsh statement.

We all grew up with ambitions and dreams of what we wanted to be when we grew up. I wanted to be a Meteorologist. Its not what I do now however it was a dream. Some grow up dreaming of a better life and leave what they worked so hard to have to come to a better place. We should all be proud and have pride that we live in a country, that to this day people of other countries that are less fortunate, wish they could live in.
I relent, your optimism is refreshing and Your positivity gives me a different way of seeing it. Please understand that I watched lansdale go downhill my whole life, and the slumlords, corrupt local officials, and dive bar owners were definitely in abundance. So maybe your right, and that era is hopefully over. I still cannot agree that more bars are a solution to revitization, there are way too many in such a small town. And part time jobs with no benefits are not a substitute for full time jobs that people can actually live off of. So again thanks and we'll have to have further discussions! Definitely enjoyed it!

Since: Oct 11

Doylestown, PA

#13 Oct 6, 2011
I completely agree that adding bars to a municipality is no way to drive up revenue or business in said municipality. But,...it works. Liquor licenses in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania are issue by the state. Each county in Pennsylvania has a predetermined amount of licenses allowed to be issued. How it is determined which area of the county is allowed so many licenses is beyond my knowledge.

I do think that the easiest way to bring people into town and see what the town has to offer is something like a resturaunt or a bar. Better yet, both. As we know, alcohol has been around for hundreds of years. A bar in a town is not a new concept. Its a lucrative business to run, no doubt about that and it is the only kind of establishment that people pay to be at, regardless of thier financial status. Because its such an establishment that is garunteed to make money, it is more of an attractive option for those investing in a business or opening one themselves.

What are other options? Escpecially ones that would help Lansdale at this time considering the project they are working on?
Really Irish

Quakertown, PA

#14 Oct 7, 2011
concerned parent wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not associating their bar with drugs, it's what will gravitate to it, and yes your right responsible people have an absolute right to go out for dinner and drinks, what your missing is how many places that serves liquor does lansdale need? How many ones are there up the road in montgomeryville? Do we need one on every corner? You obviously didn't get it, lansdale is a community ( or was) these bars aren't improving the quality of life they are turning lansdale into a place to go drink. What parents are going to want to raise kids there when the brewpubs opens and the bar crowds start coming in with all the negatives that always surround it? You obviously didn't grow up there and don't have a clue, and as far as being Irish , my family on both sides are 4th generation Pennsylvanian Irish , I'm the 3 rd gen from lansdale, what the he'll are you a quarter Irish on your stepdads side, who moved to the area a couple years ago? Don't act like you understand and don't speak on behalf of a bunch of parasites sucking the last of the blue blood out of lansdale. It's heartbreaking to watch the circus that the greedy profiteers have turned my beloved childhood town into. You will all burn in eternal damnation.
No,like my moniker says "Really Irish" From Ireland.Woo-hu 3rd,4th generation is not Irish,you are American.
concerned parent

Souderton, PA

#15 Oct 8, 2011
Really Irish wrote:
<quoted text>No,like my moniker says "Really Irish" From Ireland.Woo-hu 3rd,4th generation is not Irish,you are American.
I guess the education system in Ireland is faltering, I said 3rd gen lansdale! 4th gen pa Irish! Yes I'm American , glad you could deduce that , you need to maybe take some reading comprehension classes at night , you'll find it will help you to not sound uneducated in your posts. Just like the "real Irish" want intruders out of their land, same applies here, intruders are not welcome.
Really Irish

Quakertown, PA

#16 Oct 9, 2011
concerned parent wrote:
<quoted text>
How am I racist? Did you actually read what I wrote? I'm Irish so I hope your not calling me racist because of the fact that it's an "Irish pub". And bitter? Your absolutely right, I am. That was a huge reason for what I wrote. Again did you actually read it? Anymore brilliant comments? People like you don't even get it, keep living in your bubble, you'll be nice and safe in there. This country will never recover from where it is as long as everybody in every community continues to blindly live their life like they are the only one in it . Let the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. And every generation will have to struggle harder from the ignorance and complacency of the previous one.
Here is your entry which states "I'm Irish".Who's comprehension is problematic.It's a joke that you are insulting my education. Educated people know how to debate without insulting others.Being a Bigot is also not a characteristic of a well educated individual.
concerned parent

Souderton, PA

#17 Oct 9, 2011
Really Irish wrote:
<quoted text>Here is your entry which states "I'm Irish".Who's comprehension is problematic.It's a joke that you are insulting my education. Educated people know how to debate without insulting others.Being a Bigot is also not a characteristic of a well educated individual.
Okay, I see your having a hard time grasping this, so I'll try to be patient. Yes, "I'm Irish"! I am a descendant from Ireland . This means my great grandfather came over on a big boat from Ireland ( where he was born and lived) to come to America . Okay? Still with me? Next, he then started a family in Pa, my grandfather , then my father, then myself were born and raised in Lansdale, pa. Take some time, re read. Good, so now let's put it all together now, I am 4th generation Pa Irish , and 3rd generation Lansdale. Does it make sense now? Get a friend or caretaker to help you if you need. Bigotry is neither the sign of intelligence nor ignorance, it is based on hate, emotions not thoughts. Usually for reasons. In this case though, bigotry does not apply, my original post was about people taking advantage of others while they are vulnerable for their own financial gains and success, wouldn't matter if they were from Ireland, Italy, Germany, or California , but I know you could only comprehend the " Irish " part. Sorry you brain hasn't evolved past simple and rudimentary thoughts.
Really Irish

Quakertown, PA

#18 Oct 9, 2011
concerned parent wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay, I see your having a hard time grasping this, so I'll try to be patient. Yes, "I'm Irish"! I am a descendant from Ireland . This means my great grandfather came over on a big boat from Ireland ( where he was born and lived) to come to America . Okay? Still with me? Next, he then started a family in Pa, my grandfather , then my father, then myself were born and raised in Lansdale, pa. Take some time, re read. Good, so now let's put it all together now, I am 4th generation Pa Irish , and 3rd generation Lansdale. Does it make sense now? Get a friend or caretaker to help you if you need. Bigotry is neither the sign of intelligence nor ignorance, it is based on hate, emotions not thoughts. Usually for reasons. In this case though, bigotry does not apply, my original post was about people taking advantage of others while they are vulnerable for their own financial gains and success, wouldn't matter if they were from Ireland, Italy, Germany, or California , but I know you could only comprehend the " Irish " part. Sorry you brain hasn't evolved past simple and rudimentary thoughts.
There you go again with your insults and condescension.You made a false statement & instead of admiting it,you insult,real classy. Just from your grammar and rambling,I can tell your education is subpar. So I will not waste further time with you.BTW this is the Definition of BIGOT
: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance . Remember "Go back to Ireland",let me guess,you are going to deny that too, even though it is in writing.Bigotry is all about ignorance,and that perfectly describes you..
concerned parent

Souderton, PA

#19 Oct 9, 2011
Really Irish wrote:
<quoted text>There you go again with your insults and condescension.You made a false statement & instead of admiting it,you insult,real classy. Just from your grammar and rambling,I can tell your education is subpar. So I will not waste further time with you.BTW this is the Definition of BIGOT
: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance . Remember "Go back to Ireland",let me guess,you are going to deny that too, even though it is in writing.Bigotry is all about ignorance,and that perfectly describes you..
Alright, now I just feel bad, I admit to stirring the pot quite alot in this post. I was reading people's posts and replies, and noticed a real lack of actual debating or discussing. So for my own sick amusement I've been trying to bait people into doing what you've done. I'm sorry, it's not nice and obviously I've got issues, but I think it shows that people should utilize online forums like this to seriously conversate, instead of the mindless banter I've read over and over. I'm not entirely embellishing my statements, I do basically feel the way I've expressed, but my harsh comments were intentional to draw out the reactionary and quick tempered. Again, sorry, but maybe think more and react less. I know I should be psychoanalyzed , trust me I'm working on it!

Since: Oct 11

Doylestown, PA

#20 Oct 10, 2011
Ok, I'm back. This conversation has gotten pretty bad!
Can we get back to the topic at hand? I enjoy a debating over this topic and Lansdale in general. Id like to continue.

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