Why do people talk about Lancaster li...

Since: Sep 09

Lancaster, Texas

#21 Sep 15, 2009
Jenny, your post was spot on. I live in Lancaster as well and don't want to live anywhere else. Sadly, I've seen it time and time again just because a place is majority minority, people start calling it a 'ghetto.' The people making such ignorant judgments usually don't look past the racial makeup of the community to see what the true on-the-ground reality is. In the case of Lancaster, census bureau figures show that the home ownership rate in the city is nearly seventy percent. The number of college educated residents has continued to rise along with median incomes. The population has grown rapidly and if Lancaster were really a 'ghetto,' I doubt that people would be moving here the way they have in recent years. Lancaster has all the same types of housing that is found in other area suburbs. Just over half of the land in the city limits has yet to be developed, so there is plenty of room to expand. I have read comments on this forum and on others where people, mostly living in the suburbs north of Dallas, will look down on any community outside of their region its sickening. Not everyone wants to live in overpriced northern suburb homes and deal with traffic when there are great alternatives across other parts of the Metroplex. I love Lancaster's laid back feel, its charming town square and the rich history of this community. I enjoy driving down the beautifully landscaped Belt Line Road corridor, taking a stroll down at the community park while watching the ducks frolic in the pond, or doing something as simple as gardening in my front yard and getting a pleasant "good day" or "How are you doing?" from one of the neighbors as they pass by. I live in a spacious home that is located in a nice, safe neighborhood. I would not give that all up for the "prestige" of living in a small crackerbox dwelling (which is all that I could afford in the northern suburbs) north of Dallas. Even up there, the word 'ghetto' is now being thrown around to describe areas in places such as Carrollton and Plano as those places become more diverse. The same thing happens when school demographics change as well.

Jenny, its always great to read comments from current Lancaster residents that debunk the myths and false assumptions being made about this community. I will continue to do the same and wish you all the best!

Since: Oct 09

Lancaster, Tex.

#22 Oct 5, 2009
I see some of the people who are bashing Lancaster are often recommending Red Oak as a better place to live. I lived in both cities, Lancaster (1990-1995), Red Oak (1995-2003), and Lancaster (2003-present). When I first moved to the area, My husband and I rented a small home in Lancaster and lived there for five years with no major issues. To be closer to our jobs, both of which were located in the Waxahachie area, we found a home in Red Oak. Things were okay at first, but the situation deteriorated quickly. Some of the homes on our street were allowed to become over-grown with weeds and look awful. Code enforcement was poor and when we called to get the situation corrected, they gave us the runaround and it took weeks before anything was done. On some nights, a small group of teens roamed the streets well after dark. We complained, nothing was done. The last straw came in 2001, when our home was burglarized twice in one year. The first time, they only kicked the door in. The next time, my husband came home to find our bedroom ransacked. After that, I never felt safe there, especially after my son was born. A co-worker told us about a few homes for sale in his Lancaster neighborhood. One was just right for us and even though we heard Lancaster being labeled as "unsafe" or "ghetto" by some (not all) living in Red Oak (the same types of negative code words that were used by people at the start of this thread), we have never looked back. Our neighborhood is quiet, safe, and populated by working families. It is nothing like a stereotypical "ghetto" and neither are most of the neighborhoods in the city. My son attends a great elementary school (Rosa Parks-Millbrook) and has had wonderful teachers. I wouldn't want to send him anywhere else. Lancaster might not be the right place for everyone, but it is for me and my family. My previous experiences have shown me that no place, not even the so-called "desirable" areas, or perfect or without fault. I'm not a confrontational person, but I felt it necessary to share my story after reading some of the things that were said.

To what the hell, Albert, jenny, and Chris N.: Thanks for showing others that there are many more positive aspects to living in Lancaster than there are negatives. Also Albert, thanks for posting that link to the photos of Lancaster. They were terrific. There were even a few from my Millbrook neighborhood!

Since: Sep 09

Lancaster, Texas

#23 Oct 30, 2009
Thanks southwest342 for posting your excellent comment. Lancaster has a lot of great people who CHOOSE to live here. The Millbrook neighborhood is a personal favorite of mine. The homes are very nice. Some of the garbage that was posted earlier in this thread was down right sickening. Thanks again!
xoc

Dallas, TX

#24 Nov 2, 2009
Well i lived in south oakcliff all my life and it was full of drug users prostitues and murder. I moved to lancaster 3 years ago and love it my neighborhood is so quite and peacefull. The scholls do sux. But the community is great
Shannon

Albuquerque, NM

#25 Nov 12, 2009
Here's a story for you. I use to live in Lancaster. My brother moved into our old house after my mom passed way this year and he was just robbed at gun point at his home by 6 black high school students. Sorry but I wouldn't tell anyone I cared about to move to Lancaster.

Since: Sep 09

Lancaster, Texas

#26 Nov 13, 2009
Shannon wrote:
Here's a story for you. I use to live in Lancaster. My brother moved into our old house after my mom passed way this year and he was just robbed at gun point at his home by 6 black high school students. Sorry but I wouldn't tell anyone I cared about to move to Lancaster.
While this was a truly unfortunate incident and no person should have to experience this, it doesn't mean that this is occurring on a regular basis in every neighborhood across the city. In the time that I have lived here, I have never had a problem with crime or been the victim of a crime. According to the latest FBI crime statistics (2008), Lancaster's overall crime rate declined 13.2 percent last year with a 35.5 percent decrease in violent crime and a 10.8 decrease in property crime. This at a time when many suburbs across the DFW area experienced increases. Again, I am sorry that this happened to your family, but these types of incidents happen everywhere, not just in Lancaster.
lynn74

Dallas, TX

#27 Nov 13, 2009
I live in Lancaster, love my home, and my neighbors. As people have said earlier, most of the city is middle class, not low income or "ghetto".

Since: Oct 09

Lancaster, Tex.

#28 Nov 13, 2009
In the past week, there have been murders in Dallas, Wylie, Flower Mound, Mesquite, and a Farmers Branch man is being charged with murdering his girlfriend and her daughter and dumping their bodies in Kaufman County. Then theres the all the non deadly crimes that have taken place and not made the news. Chris N, you hit the nail on the head.....crime can happen ANYWHERE.

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#29 Nov 15, 2009
I am a longtime Lancaster citizen, having moved here in 1971. Its a shame to read this thread filled with negative comments from people who have never lived in Lancaster and those in the "used to live here" crowd who seem to get a cheap thrill out of bashing this city. I urge any future readers to go back and look at all 28 posts that appear before mine. Those negative comments are coming from the two groups I previously described. The comments from those identified as citizens of Lancaster are overwhelmingly positive. Why? Because Lancaster is still a nice place to live. We know our city better than anyone as we call it home. I've lived in Lancaster for 38 years and saw it grow from a small town into a suburb. And guess what? It still continues to attract hard working people looking for a nice community in which to live. Has the city changed? Yes, and so has every other city and town in the Metroplex over the years. A lot of the ignorance about Lancaster is centered around demographics. As a few have already mentioned, some like to look at the racial composition of the city alone without taking into account factors like annual salaries or education levels, which show that the people living here now have household incomes than many of the "used to live here" folks that left. Same goes for the numbers of people who are in possession of post-graduate degrees. These educated residents with the jobs and financial means to live anywhere still find Lancaster attractive. I'm a small business owner who knows Lancaster like the back of my hand its neighborhoods, its history, its people. My job keeps me out and about through the community. What do I see and hear on a daily basis? Men and women out for a jog along Belt Line Road, people shopping for groceries at Minyards & Walmart, a guy mowing his lawn while his son trims the hedges, an elderly couple enjoying a meal at a restaurant on the town square, the high school band practicing on the grounds of Tiger Stadium. Typical Suburbia. What don't I see or encounter? Open-air drug deals, areas with dozens dilapidated homes, graffiti-marked walls, gunfire, homeless panhandling, or any other examples of blight and decay found in true ghettos. Not once has my business been robbed or my customers been harassed. So to all the naysayers who like to look down on me, my friends, my neighbors, and my city by trying to label it as a ghetto, I say get off your high horse and get back to reality. I'm sure someone can find flaws with your community and neighborhood, too. No place is 100% perfect. You'd be as angry as I am if people falsely portrayed the actual situation in your town.

I'd also extend a big THANK YOU to the Lancaster citizens who have proudly and rightfully defended our community. You've shown how truth and common sense can prevail over ignorance and naivety.
concerned after dark

United States

#31 Dec 4, 2009
I dont thank all of Lancaster is Bad or Getto, but I can say that I will NOT go to the Movies on a Saturday night with my kids or let them go by there self! Not all people of color are bad no matter what color!!! But on Saturday night it is down right DANGERUS being white to go to the movies!The last time I ever went on a Saturday Night there was a Police Bus in the Parking Lot and over 250 Black teenagers under arrest, they had guns, knife's bats, I was told by the Police Not To Ever Bring My Family To The Movies At Night!
This stuff never happened as long as I have lived her 26 years until Wilmer Hutchins School's got shut down, I beleive that alot of the "GETTO" remarks "Lancaster is so bad" is because of NON Disaplined Teenagers running a muck! Fighting, doing drugs,selling drugs' I believe they brought the Getto with them.

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#32 Dec 6, 2009
As I stated in my earlier post, I lived in Lancaster since 1971 and HAVE taken my family out to the movies at that theater without any problems whatsoever. If you are describing the disturbance that occurred in January, that is not a regular occurrence and the media blew that whole event out of proportion. Only FIVE children were arrested out of the 250 that were there. If you gather 250 teenagers from any city in the Metroplex at a single site and do a search of them and their vehicles, I'll bet they will have MORE than five that are in possession of some illegal drug or substance that could get them arrested. This one event does not define all the teenagers of Lancaster nor does it define the city. If things at the movie theater continued to be that bad after the event, I don't understand why it and all the surrounding restaurants and businesses continue to be packed by people of ALL RACES on Saturday nights. I passed by there two Saturday nights ago and had never seen the parking lot full of so many cars. There weren't groups of loitering teens or police lights flashing, just families out for a nice night. There is a small police storefront in that shopping center, not an intimidating over-presence of cops, and there have been no major incidents since then. In fact, the crime rate, which wasn't as bad as some of the other suburbs in the Metroplex to begin with, has fallen sharply during the past two years. While supposedly "crime-free" suburbs like Little Elm, Wylie, Red Oak, Euless, and Allen have all had murders this year or Plano with its back to back murders over a single weekend in March, Lancaster hasn't had any. Not to mention the other cities that have had "major disturbances" that make the Lancaster movie theater situation look tame. The word "ghetto" gets thrown around when anything happens here while in events in those places I mentioned aren't and are considered "isolated" or "out of the ordinary." While its regrettable that it happened, Lancaster is still a nice community full of law-abiding citizens and people just living their lives like everyone else!
fred1476

United States

#33 Dec 6, 2009
This is the silliest thread I've ever read. I grew up in East St. Louis, IL, which is the epitome of the word GHETTO. Crime, poverty, homelessness, drugs, violence, all surrounded me when I lived there. Fortunately, I had great parents who kept me out of trouble. Anyway, I own a home in Lancaster with my wife and two kids. This city is by no means a ghetto. Lancaster and East St. Louis have similar populations of around 30000, but ESL typically has between twenty and thirty murders each year, nearly 2,000 assaults, and 400 robberies. The poverty rate there is over 30 percent and there is no sizeable middle class. THOSE STATS DESCRIBE A GHETTO. Lancaster is nowhere close to becoming that. Yes, its majority black and when some see that they think ghetto, but there's a big difference this is still a middle class city. I dare anyone of these people who called this city a ghetto to drive up to one of those 200,000+ homes in Pleasant Run Estates and inform them that they are ghetto and live in one as well. Even better, tell that crap to the single mother who works everyday, is not on any kind of government assistance, keeps her child in line, and manages to maintain the neatest home on the block. Of course they won't do this as they are too cowardly and prefer to get a rise out of spreading vitriol about an entire city anonymously. You folks have probably never experienced what life in a real ghetto is. I have, but not here in Lancaster, Texas.
jake

United States

#34 Dec 9, 2009
I lived in Lancaster for years and alot of my family too. It was so simple and nice, now it is awful. All my family moved away for better schools and less crime. My brother in law got robbed twice and he lived in a nice area. The schools are the pitts now.
resident

Grand Prairie, TX

#35 Dec 11, 2009
I know for a fact the apartment complexes are a bad idea. I know the movie theater is bad on a Friday night. I know there schools are very bad. If you do not have a problem with any of the 3 sentences of mine Lancaster is OK for you.

Since: Oct 09

Lancaster, Tex.

#36 Dec 11, 2009
jake wrote:
I lived in Lancaster for years and alot of my family too. It was so simple and nice, now it is awful. All my family moved away for better schools and less crime. My brother in law got robbed twice and he lived in a nice area. The schools are the pitts now.
So what? I have friends, coworkers, and relatives who live all over the area and have been victims of crime.

My last house in Red Oak was burglarized twice.
My aunt's car was stolen from her driveway in Midlothian.
The niece of a coworker of mine was held up at gunpoint in the parking lot of a Frisco restaurant.

These things happen everywhere, its not just a Lancaster thing. This city isn't awful or ghetto.

Since: Sep 09

Lancaster, Texas

#37 Dec 11, 2009
The Lancaster that the two earlier commenter's (jake and resident) are describing isn't the Lancaster I live in. This is STILL a nice community even if the people who moved try to portray the city in a bad way. Again, look through the comments left and see that the MAJORITY of negative statements are coming from who DON'T live in the city or are basing their opinion on hearsay from others. A lot of the people who left the city weren't necessarily contributing anything positive to the community, rendering their negative opinions irrelevant to the discussion. If you only knew the mindset and motivations of some of them, their choice to move out was a positive action.

I have a brother and other relatives in Lancaster schools. They aren't that bad. Involved parents with motivated students will do well anywhere. I have never witnessed a crime while living here and know that one single event at one entertainment venue on one particular night of the week isn't a great measure of the community as a whole.

Crime is down and down significantly. Check out the FBI stats here: http://www.city-data.com/forum/fort-worth/766...

The following is a list of DFW cities that have a higher per capita violent crime rate (murder, assault, rape, & robbery) than Lancaster in 2008: Addison, Azle, Arlington, Balch Springs, Blue Mound, Bedford, Cleburne, Cockrell Hill, Commerce, Crandall, Dallas, Duncanville, Ennis, Everman, Ferris, Forest Hill, Fort Worth, Glenn Heights, Greenville, Haltom City, Hutchins, Irving, Mesquite, North Richland Hills, Royse City, Springtown, Terrell, and Waxahachie. The state per capita violent crime rate was 507.9 crimes per 100,000 population in 2008. Lancaster's was much lower (358.1).

The following is a list of DFW cities that have a higher per capita property crime rate (burglary, theft, auto theft) than Lancaster in 2008: Addison, Anna, Azle, Balch Springs, Dallas, Ennis, Farmers Branch, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie, Greenville, Haltom City, Hutchins, Hurst, Lake Worth, Mesquite, Pantego, and Terrell. The property crime rate was nearly twice as high in the late 1980s than it is now, according to statistics that can easily be accessed at the FBI's official website.

Those cities with higher crime rates than Lancaster are different sizes, have a variety of demographics, and some even claim to be "the safest city", yet Lancaster with its lower crime rate - is somehow made out like it is one of the most dangerous communities in the Metroplex. NOT!!! Neither is Lancaster frequently in the news for crime related stories. We are not accustomed to violent crime and most of the criminal activity in the city is non-violent, like every other city.

Like it or not, there are still a lot of nice things about Lancaster that make it an attractive place to live - beautiful homes and safe neighborhoods, a large-middle class population, small town feel, etc. If it was as "awful" as some of the people here are trying to make it look like, why the hell do people with the educational background and financial means to live anywhere continue to move to the city, thus explaining the overall increase in the city's median and per capita income? If the robberies and violence were so commonplace and people stayed in their homes out of intimidation, sales tax revenues for Lancaster's businesses would not continue to register month-after-month of increases while neighboring communities and suburbs around DFW witness steep declines. There has been more development in Lancaster over the past decade than any other in its history and businesses continue to show interest in the area, proving that the uninformed fear-mongering and scare tactics levied against this community in recent years isn't working.

Since: Sep 09

Lancaster, Texas

#38 Dec 11, 2009
For those of you who live outside of Lancaster and think you have a full grasp of how life is here, you don't. You just don't. If I wanted, I could probably find things wrong with where you live as well. No city is perfect or without fault. No school district is without fault either. Some neighborhoods and apartment complexes are nicer than others. If I labeled your community in a negative way or said things that were not fully true, wouldn't you be angry, too? Wouldn't you want the truth to be known?

For those of you living in Lancaster and are disparaging your own community, what have you done to try to change things? Did you vote in local elections, attend school board meetings, attend city council meetings (or watch them on TW Cable Channel 16) and town hall events, or talk to city officials about your concerns? Instead of complaining, why aren't you using this forum for good by making it an outlet for citizens to work together for the betterment of Lancaster? Remember, when this city and its 36,000 residents are stereotyped into over-generalized categories, that also includes YOU and YOUR FAMILY!

Since: Sep 09

Lancaster, Texas

#39 Dec 11, 2009
Southwest342 wrote:
<quoted text>
So what? I have friends, coworkers, and relatives who live all over the area and have been victims of crime.
My last house in Red Oak was burglarized twice.
My aunt's car was stolen from her driveway in Midlothian.
The niece of a coworker of mine was held up at gunpoint in the parking lot of a Frisco restaurant.
These things happen everywhere, its not just a Lancaster thing. This city isn't awful or ghetto.
Continue speaking the truth, Southwest 342! We are fed up with the BS being left here.
1949plh

United States

#40 Dec 11, 2009
Funny how the people calling labeling Lancaster a ghetto are leaving sensational and incendiary comments while the self identified Lancaster residents are polite in their responses. Now which group is acting more ghetto?
lancaster

United States

#41 Dec 11, 2009
Lancaster is a nice place to live and i love it here.

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