Joshua Martin beat his 3 year old foster child

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upset citizen

Columbia, PA

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Sep 28, 2012
 

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This man made front page lancaster newspaper. I wonder what made this 23 year old man who doesnt even have children of his own a foster parent to begin with. I hope the mother gets an attorney right away to fight for her and her daughters rights.
I believe all the foster care system is is a scam just like every other asspect of our legal system. It creates jobs and feeds the system. If people gt no money for keeping these kids how many would still be placed? It's a pathitic joke. It's not about saving the children obviously it's about the money that's made off them.
Wake up america and stop foster care all together there are already laws set in place for abuse. The system should not be aloud to rip a child from there parents based on anything other than evident abuse. Hw many people have there children taken on suspicion of alleged danger? Only to have there children end up like this poor child who is now fighting for her life.
Oh here's the real kicker the police don't know if they will file any other charges. If that was done by the real parents they would be charged with all relevant charges. So sad. I hpe this man is held to a higher standard and he gets chrged with attempted murder.
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Sep 30, 2012
 
you have lots of ideas. I will tell you that nobody is doing foster care to make money. the state only pays enough to cover expenses. unfortunately this is a very sad situation.
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Columbia, PA

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Sep 30, 2012
 
I would believe you if people did it with out re-embursment but as you mentioned "the costs are paid" while a majority of these kids are abused more in the foster homes than the homes they are takin from. Why? all to feed the greedy and pathetic system we have. So how many checks do you cllect? I half wonder if that's why this 23 year old had 3 foster kids in his care. Also no one mentioned anything about his wife. Wander what her role was and where in the he** C.Y.A. was? Why did the agency not see the prior abuse. One thing I agree with is this is a tragic situation and it's one of many. Because CYA records are not published who knows how many unexposed incidets there are. SHUT DOWN CYA THE "FAMILY COURT SYSTEM IS A JOKE>.
LETS LEARN FROM THIS TRAGETY and change the parts of the system that need it. CYA should be held accountable for there negligence.
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Columbia, PA

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Oct 2, 2012
 
This is very disturbing that couple just bought that house in July 2012. 377 Staver Rd.(Confirmed through lancaster recorder of deeds office.)and qualified as fosters. They had no stable place to live. The cost of a new house and 3 kids that weren't his probably pushed him over the edge. Also in todays paper oct 2nd the laughman guy had the nerve to quote this couple really wanted these children. So foster care kids are advertized as available and can go from one home to another?
People should ban together it's amazing that this can happen and people would rather post things that are petty compared to this. Does eveyone who reads this think it's ok that this happens then is swept under the rug? To those who do WHAT IF IT WAS YOUR KID? Or one of your loved ones kids? If people dont do anything it will be a matter of time before the agency screws up again.
crystal parsons

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Oct 4, 2012
 
I have nothing ahaonst young parents...I was one. But i do find it disturbing that the system would place three children ALL under the age of five, with 23 year old foster parents. I was a foster child and I know from experiece thay foster childre. carry a lot of pro.lems behind the sweet faces. Problems that I dont feel a 23 year old is equipped to deal with. I am in NO WAY saying that the monster that did this should be excused because of his age...however I do believe that the child protective agency thay placed these poor chilren in his care most definitley deserves to be punished as well. I agree with the previous posts that most generally children are a lot safer in the care of the biological parents. Theres exceptio.s to everything, but under most circumstances a biologi al pareny is better able to show the compassion and love that a child needs as oppsed to a foster parent. I KNOW! I was removed from my motjer at age 11 because I had some behavior issues...mostly tantrums. I was in 6 different foster placements, two psychiatric hospitals, two shelters, one detention center, one group home, and one school for the behavior and learning disabled, before getting my GED and starting college at AGE 17....at which point I was still in a state funded independant living program. what caused my behavior? Well it all started when I was 11 and I simply didnt like my moms new boyfriend. She didnt have the skills to deal with me or my issues, and the state used our unfortunate family problems as a way to take control. After a few months in foster care I began missing my mother and siblings so much that I began acting out and throwing tantrums 100 times worse than I had on my mother. Thats where my journey and agenda to "get home to my mom and brothers began". I tbought if I caused enough confusion they would give me back to my mother. I apologize for the long personal story; but the point I was trying to make is this...I was abused and neglected emotionally in virtually all my placements. All I wanted from my mother was her unconditional love and attention. Due to depression and domestic problems she couldnt provide that for me at the time
but Could have, if the state had helped her, and provided family counseling. Instead they placed me in the syatwm and passed me around like a bad piece of mail, until I was mentally and physically abused by some of theyre "finest" providers. It makes me sick that this garbage is still going on. and ive been out of states care for 14 years....i know one thing, I WOULD SEE THEM IN HELL BEFORE I EVER LET THEM PUT MY BABIES THROUGH WHAT THEY PUT ME THROUGH!
crystal parsons

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Oct 4, 2012
 
Sorry about the spelling errors its my goofy phone. lol
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Oct 4, 2012
 
@ z/c....youre very right the staye DOES in fact only pay enough to cover expenses....HOWEVER......Are we forgetting about the innocent children that are being NEGLECTED in the homes of the foster parents thay ARE in it just for the money. Some of these children are fed just enough to survive, while the foster family are dining nightly at high end restrUnts, and being dressed in hand me downs and walmart specials, while the foster families biological kids are wearing top dollar clothing Nd sporting new vehicles. Dont even try to feed me that garbage. Ive been there and lived it. In one of my placements the biolovical kixs were allowed to call me the "N" word everytime I was punished...and my first christmas with them their daughters got thousands of dollars worth of gifts, while I was given a hanful of items that tje foster agency hD donated to me. That summer the foster family had went on a family vacation to the beach, knowing that I had never been there, and left me in respent until they returned. Im sorry but if you take in foster children to give them a better life...then you need to do just that. My biological mother would NEVER have boughr for one of us without the other and she had six kids and was poor... but shes the one that was neglecting me right?????
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Columbia, PA

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Oct 4, 2012
 
I'm so glad i'm not the only one who feels that way about foster care. Fortunatly I was blessed not to ever be in one but it really bothers me to see children taken on "allegations" which is a flowery term for hearsay, tormented with visits by the one who is "allegedly" unsafe, then given back after you go through some B.S. service plan put in place to force there services on people who don't really need them. In some cases the "allegations are proven untrue and CYA is not liable for wrongful use of civil proceedure which the sverage person is subject to when filig civil suits. CYA is nothing more than communism when they can invade a persons life and privacy on hearsay.
I believe if foster care should only be used when and if the child is at risk of dying as a result of them not being removed. With Evident proof. But that would cause more than half the CYA workers to lose there jobs and the college students in trsining couldn't pay off there loans.
You never hear of any one SUing CYA and being successful. It's because they are an agency and are there for granted immunity from such accountability.
The people with a lawyer to guide them should start a petition class action suit against the aency and if enough people got involved we might not ba able to shut down CYA but perhaps force them to comply with different proceedures
A nother thing that disturbs me is parents can no longer spank your child with out the fear of being reported. Then is most cases the kids get out of control and when they are placed in a state facility the staff can break bones just for a kid refusing to comply with a rule even somethin as simple as getting someone to sit down. It seems many lawyers have no balls when it comes to taking on the system in general. I don't know why if a lawyer could change CYA i my opinion they'd be famous. Hey attorneys if your out there and want to make a lot of people happy start a lawsuit/petition to "help the people protect their children".
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Oct 9, 2012
 
omg.. can't believe what you went through, but i'm glad you opened up and let us know a little of what goes on behind closed doors with these foster carers. Something needs to be done... i dont know where to begin or how or who to talk to... but we all should come together and fight against this.. child abuse has gone far beyond horrific! and it's becoming a normal thing with these psychopaths! something really needs to be done
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Columbia, PA

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Oct 28, 2012
 
Every one get a good look at this animal. And the Children and youth said he was the perfect foster parent. So not only can the state take someones children they can put them from one placement or foster home to the next. Isn't that what they take children for? DOn't they call that being "UNSTABLE"? Then they can place children with poeple like This creep who had no children of his own. That should be a requirement if your going to care for someone elses children. You must first be a parent. Let us not forget this and take a stand to reform the CYA and hold them liable fr there mistakes.
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Nov 8, 2012
 
zlc wrote:
you have lots of ideas. I will tell you that nobody is doing foster care to make money. the state only pays enough to cover expenses. unfortunately this is a very sad situation.
You are sooooooo very wrong. Any time child welfare can cram a pill down a child and claim the child needs the med (esp if diagnosis is something they can blame on a parent) That child becomes a "special needs" child and the money paid is more than a normal 40/wk job. Some people are professional foster parents. They "get off" on it, being thought of as a hero in the life of a "poor" child. They do it for the attention and the money, then they abuse the child they should have never have gotten.
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#12
Nov 14, 2012
 
email this topick to every one you know eople all over the world should know.Ican't see how ripping any child away from caretakrs is sick in and of itself. There are so many stories about the children and familys who suffer as a result of this agency. Some one should write a book about them. How fuc*** up our system. To the Law makers REPS/SENATE WTF??? Why not accomlish something from behind that desk and huge salary you get to do just that legislate GET BUSY BEFORE IT ENDS UP HAPPENING TO ONE OF YOUR KIDS
zlc

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Nov 14, 2012
 
I'm not saying there is nobody working the system. Lets not say it's all bad though. I know some parents in foster that honestly care for the children they have. I also know that for every good situation there are plenty of bad ones and this is a very bad situation.
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Columbia, PA

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Nov 18, 2012
 
This man I heard bailed out of jail. So it's bad enough the state allowed the abuse by placing the kids there then this monster can hav the chance to be free and do it again? That's the state for you.
How comes people dn't comment??? This shouldbe talked abou t intill it's changed or somethin g is done
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Dec 30, 2012
 
So CYA please tell the public why your agency ripped this little girl away from the foster family who had her and her siblings for a year?
Also, Why is it you say that's unfit/unsafe for children when they stay with one relative than another? Then your agency can do it to innocent children? Rip them away from there care takers on alligations cuse let's face it if it were evident abuse your agency would not be involved it would be the police. And then place them from one group or foster ome to the next?
Is it better for the child or better for the agency financiall.
We all know every case the agency has open weather legitimate or not gets funding for each case.
So is it really about the well being of our children or some goverment agency creating jobs like CYA workers than you have a whole section of the Court Orphans Court deticated to the task of ripping children away from there homes so they can get a salary and play hero.
Plus all the FOster Parents in the system let's not forget there paycheck.
I'm told it's 500.00 per kid and if they get ond that needs medicaiton which most do I'm told than it's 1000.00 per child.
WOW......
This is fact people wake up. Instead of law-makers worrying about petty crap like voter registration laws why not workong on some laws to hold the corrupt system accountable???
Please grow balls and tlak about this people.
Cause if you don't the next time there's an issue regarding there crap let's not then pretend to care.
Children are our future and should be protected and advocated for.
It's not about being right but about doing what's right.
Further more if a child is abused and I mean near death as a result they should be removed under those circumstances and protected. If abuse is found to have caused harm the child should not be forced to be subjected for another rould so again the agency AND i's workers can play hero.
There are few caseworkers who truely care about there jobs and try to do what's right however a majority do not care and those individuals give the agency and it's purpose a bad name.
Lastly no agency should be aloud to at on hearsay or suspicion. In order to violate rights in the name of justice is perverting the whole right to due process.
Changes need to be amde and on person can't do it all but if the people ban together amazing things can be done and these articles of EDUCATION to the public would nolonger be needed.
Just because CYA get's involved doesn't make you a bad person. Unfortunalty the agency can target who ever they wish as clients and force the sevices on those who don't need them while the ones that do don't get them. Some people are to poor the fight the system even those with money are not garentted to win.
It's messed up but BELLE ROETINGS parents were young people that lacked resources. They never did and would never abuse there children. So the agency instead of helping them financially to keep the family together instead paid strangers to do what the real parents could have been doing. See the pattern this is one of many and because CYA can keep there records sealed who knows how many other like cases there are
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Dec 31, 2012
 
It's bad enough when the state takes children from there care takers with out a just reason.
But what's worse is they refuse to let any other member from the birth family such as grndparents to see the kids in foster care
So not only are they ripped away from mommy and daddy but also GRANDMA GRANDPA all the Aunts, Uncles and friends of the family whom they have grown to love than because of some pathetic UNTRUE ALLIGATION ( NOTHING MORE THAN MERE SUSPICION OR AN ACT OF MALICE).
And the Courts, Judges and of course the CYA workers all say that's healthy for a childs well being???
More like it's more bennificial to keep there B.S. services and jobs
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Jan 1, 2013
 
people wonder what's wrong with kids these days.
I'm sure foster care is creating lots of civilized Americans just look at all the shootings. Kids killing Kids.
But when they see the state can RIP Children from the only caretakers they know to be further abused by the state it's no wonder they kill them selves the State should be held accountable but wait theres a law in place that makes them immune from such actions that could hold them liable.
How F***** up is that???
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Jan 2, 2013
 
CYA can make accusation against good parents but can't even answer to these facts.
The outfit is nothin more than a scam the family court system is a joke and should all b reformed or shut down all together
I know caseworkers and news people read these I just think it disgusting that they would try to avoid answering to this
Just shows there real motives and the article true since they choose not to challenge the staments it is assumed they are in aggreement
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#19
Jan 2, 2013
 
So people like you should do it out of the goodness ofyour heart and not for the check thats involved. So how many checks do you collect??? Or are you practicing what you preached and doing it for nothing????
zlc wrote:
you have lots of ideas. I will tell you that nobody is doing foster care to make money. the state only pays enough to cover expenses. unfortunately this is a very sad situation.
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Mar 1, 2013
 
The poor little one and her siblings sadly are being adopted I've been told and so sad.
I can only assume this was a manuver to prevent the family members of her from suing the s*** out of them.
That's foster care for you. The birth parents were poor they never abused there children so instead of the state paying for the family to stay together and making sure they had adequate housing ect. they paid strangers who didn't even have kids of there own the tear the children from there parents.
Also, the children were with one foster home already stable for more than 6 months and the Agency decided it was best for them to be removed from that foster home and placed with the Martins.
THE SICKEST PART FOR ME ASSIDE FORM MR. MARTINS ACTIONS WAS THAT THE HEAD OF CYA JIM WHOEVER, HAD THE BALLS TO AND I QUOTE STATE "THEY WANTED THOSE CHILDREN FOR A WHILE". So now your kids are basically for sale becuase 3 foster kids = x amount of money per kid per month.
That agency should have to be held accountable to there mistakes.
Has any one heard anything about this case besides what's been published?

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