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Since: Oct 09

Garrard County

#62 Apr 22, 2010
What cave are you guys talking about? When I was looking up stuff on the distillery I found pictures and some information about a cave just called Daniel Boones cave and it was on the Jessamine County side but nothing ever said exactly where.(by the way, all of the reference to the Curley distillery were that it was built as a distillery around 1880. There are a lot of interesting pictures in the Kentucky Historical site, even newspaper articles. There was a court transcript where the man told them he worked at the distillery from 1879 to 1880 something.)

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Since: Oct 09

Lancaster will always be home

#63 Apr 22, 2010
It's been years..but a family lived at the top of the old hill road..27..the were Walkers..not sure if they are still around. It's a white sided house..or was that was across on the left going down the old road hill.
In behind their home several hundred feet..down on the side of the clift facing Hickman creek...and at one time below the large post that held the tram across Hickman creek...was a cave they advertised in the 60s as..Daniel Boones Cave.
I haven't been down that way in a while..they even had a Daniel Boones Resturant just before you get to that Walker Property, i think it burned,,,and at one time was also run by CAP.
There was a couple of old churches on the opposite side of 27 from the resturant and cave approach.
There was even a small dish barn that sit on the edge of the old road just before you dropped over the hill. Hickman creek is the creek that follows the old road to the river.
Hope I described it good enough foor you, i'm sure it will upset someone.

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Since: Oct 09

Lancaster will always be home

#64 Apr 22, 2010
By the way......at one time there was distilleries on both the Garrard and Jessamine sides of the river....but long before our time.
Built by the same man.

Since: Feb 10

Location hidden

#65 Apr 22, 2010
1devilish wrote:
never had a desire to go in that cave.....Mammoth Cave years ago...swore I'd never be underground again until my time comes.
My cousin rode the tramway that was there back in the 60s with my grandmother...he found out that was a bad mistake.
It didn't last long,seems like it stopped about half way between the hilltops..and I guess that done it in..it was fun to watch it make the trip.
That exact thing happened to me when i rode that thing on some kind of cables across the mountain from one side to another,my moms big idea she wasnt afraid of anything.I was very young they like to never got it moving stopped in the middle gives me a chill thinking of it now.But i also remember the old road,the restaurant it did have signs telling you where the cave was over the hill very historic thing we have lost the little church right there also.It was so curvy when we met a big truck it scraped the sides of the railsbut for sure nobody drove fast there

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Since: Oct 09

Lancaster will always be home

#66 Apr 22, 2010
1 Tinkerbell wrote:
<quoted text>That exact thing happened to me when i rode that thing on some kind of cables across the mountain from one side to another,my moms big idea she wasnt afraid of anything.I was very young they like to never got it moving stopped in the middle gives me a chill thinking of it now.But i also remember the old road,the restaurant it did have signs telling you where the cave was over the hill very historic thing we have lost the little church right there also.It was so curvy when we met a big truck it scraped the sides of the railsbut for sure nobody drove fast there
Do you remember thetime the 18 wheeler went over the rails and hung by the back trailer wheels over the cliff??? I wasn't very old...but every time we past there after it my hair stood on end.
I remember losts of times the big trucks would scrape the rocks as they met you when they were traveling down hill too. I guess they were trying hard not to crowd the northbound traffic into the rails. I remember when one ran into the side of the shed that was attached to the distillery building.
That old road was dangerous and at least Loyd Murphy got Garrard County something in the few years he was in Frankfort. 40 plus years later we are still waiting for our first 5 mile addition to the first mile of 4 lane.
Every country surrounding has seen 4 lanes additions and numerous state projects since those 40 plus years while all we have to show is a few miles on 52 toward Paint Lick and Lonnies old Stomping ground besides the destruction of the park on the square in the mid 60s and the mess they made of the square with the 4 lane thru the middle of town..causing the complete destruction of any businesses that might have survived that the banks and Lonnie didn't take over.
Garrard County has him to thank for screwing up the town and being greedy for himself and himself alone.

Since: Jan 10

Lexington, KY

#67 Apr 23, 2010
1devilish wrote:
It's been years..but a family lived at the top of the old hill road..27..the were Walkers..not sure if they are still around. It's a white sided house..or was that was across on the left going down the old road hill.
In behind their home several hundred feet..down on the side of the clift facing Hickman creek...and at one time below the large post that held the tram across Hickman creek...was a cave they advertised in the 60s as..Daniel Boones Cave.
I haven't been down that way in a while..they even had a Daniel Boones Resturant just before you get to that Walker Property, i think it burned,,,and at one time was also run by CAP.
There was a couple of old churches on the opposite side of 27 from the resturant and cave approach.
There was even a small dish barn that sit on the edge of the old road just before you dropped over the hill. Hickman creek is the creek that follows the old road to the river.
Hope I described it good enough foor you, i'm sure it will upset someone.
actually that was a great discription they gated off the top end of the cave years ago ! but if you park at the church you can still get to it by going around the cliff you walk down to the start of the curve headed back towards the Garrard county side it will be on the left side there is a path! but PLEASE!!! be careful it is not for the novice! there is also a big sitting rock with a great view!

Since: Jan 10

Lexington, KY

#68 Apr 23, 2010
1devilish wrote:
It's been years..but a family lived at the top of the old hill road..27..the were Walkers..not sure if they are still around. It's a white sided house..or was that was across on the left going down the old road hill.
In behind their home several hundred feet..down on the side of the clift facing Hickman creek...and at one time below the large post that held the tram across Hickman creek...was a cave they advertised in the 60s as..Daniel Boones Cave.
I haven't been down that way in a while..they even had a Daniel Boones Resturant just before you get to that Walker Property, i think it burned,,,and at one time was also run by CAP.
There was a couple of old churches on the opposite side of 27 from the resturant and cave approach.
There was even a small dish barn that sit on the edge of the old road just before you dropped over the hill. Hickman creek is the creek that follows the old road to the river.
Hope I described it good enough foor you, i'm sure it will upset someone.
These types of post are great could we get more of this type?
Just Saying

Lexington, KY

#69 Apr 23, 2010
Miss Shell I totaly agree. This is what Topix is for. Devilish this is what you are really good at. I am amazed at your knowledge of Garrard County and really like reading those posts. Please just try to ignore all the nonsense and stay away from the sily stuff. You seem pretty smart to me so show it.

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Since: Oct 09

Lancaster will always be home

#70 Apr 23, 2010
Just Saying wrote:
Miss Shell I totaly agree. This is what Topix is for. Devilish this is what you are really good at. I am amazed at your knowledge of Garrard County and really like reading those posts. Please just try to ignore all the nonsense and stay away from the sily stuff. You seem pretty smart to me so show it.
The nonsense comes from these jerks with short fuses,..and they know who I am because one of them offered 200$ to have mine idetity exposed.
There is no way to stay away from the silly stuff when these people are looking for a reason to be jealous and to hate.
I'll be the judge of who and what i'll respond to..especially thes big babies that like to whine.
You don't know what I need to do or don't..so you might wanna just join them..or stay out of something that doesn't concern you.
Try reading what u just posted and see just how you turn around and try to be bossy yourself?
What is wrong with you people, don't you have anything to do besides try and tell me what i;m going to do?
Have a nice day..and try thinking before you post something like that....i'm big enough and old enought to choose on my own what i wil post. If these cry babies have a fit because they didn't get to post about something first..like a 3 years old...so be it.
Just Saying

Lexington, KY

#71 Apr 23, 2010
Devilish I notice you have mentioned Ben Scroggins a few times on your posts. He used to be a friend of mine when he ran the screen printing place on New Circle Rd. in Lex.(the name of it escapes me). He was a good guy. Didn't he use to be married to your sister or some of your kin?

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Since: Oct 09

Lancaster will always be home

#72 Apr 23, 2010
yep..i liked Ben too..we had a lot of laughs together..was at his store there too..long after he left this country

“U may be right, I may be crazy”

Since: Oct 09

Garrard County

#73 Apr 23, 2010
Miss Shell wrote:
<quoted text>
These types of post are great could we get more of this type?
I think most of devilish's posts that I have read are like this. I don't know what happened between the two of you and I am not asking for a rehash. Most of the time what I have seen is that he will poke holes in someones arguments that can't take it and will try to make him look bad. He will not back down from what he believes to be true in spite of these barrages by people like Lawman. Most of the time these people end up hanging themselves by their own words. I have read enough of his posts to know that he has his rough edges, we all do, but I think I can trust what he says until I find out otherwise. I don't trust Lawman's judgment at all. I don't think he is honest about who he is. I am not sure the same person writes all of the posts, some of them have a very different, possibly female feel to them. I believe what you post, you have knowledge of things in the community that I don't and at times you have shown an insight into things that intrigues me. Don't let others on here, including me, to influence you too much.

“U may be right, I may be crazy”

Since: Oct 09

Garrard County

#74 Apr 23, 2010
I have looked through the digital archives for stuff about Garrard and Jessamine Counties, I am surprised that I can't find pictures of things like the tram, the distillery when it was a hotel... I'm going to have to look a little closer around that area one of these days.

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Since: Oct 09

Lancaster will always be home

#75 Apr 23, 2010
you might go to Jessamine Co. library and find it....i've seen pics of the tram..the "Bird and Animal Forrest"that was in that thicket across from the old Camp Nelson Headquarters..back in the 60s
there was also a distillery on the Garrard side back in civil war times too
I remember when there were 2~3 whiskey warehouses downriver from the old Hickman distillery....close to where they rode horses up in that bottom

I might start my own research when I get back to Lancaster, soon.
grew up there-

Broken Arrow, OK

#76 Apr 24, 2010
Before you all start bashing everything and name calling, Go to camp nelson and speak to the older people who live there. Along with the kids who grew up there. The gray distillers are STILL full with whiskey barrels. I have watched them since 76 come and go. The stone house - yes it burnt, but it burnt due to arson. The guy wanted to tear it down, BUT the residents there did not. It was a piece of history. To get away with it, he made it look like vandelism and down it went and tried to get insurance money. Felt the heat off that for days.. The log cabin is still there with the creek running through it. There is 2 different caves there that the kids in the 70's, 80's and a little in the 90's would go and hang out. Not to many people know about alot of stuff down there. The older people who live down there love it when people come around and ask questions about the history of camp nelson.

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Since: Oct 09

Lancaster will always be home

#77 Apr 24, 2010
the Stipes and Canter familieswere born and raised there...worked for the distillery for years....known many of them since I was a kid...i've heard their stories and been all over the old distillery properety..and the storage warehouses are watched electronicly..have been for years..the Canter family use to be the caretakes of that property where the storage buildings are now, after the distillery closed down in the late 60s~early 70s.

Since: Feb 10

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#78 Apr 24, 2010
When they were building the big bridge i worked for Father Beiting and i did all the inventory at all the stores there.Before the flood took it all mostley,i had to count every single thing in the little store,it had a horse place next door to buy all kinds of saddles etc,i ate at the restaurant over looking the river as i remember the country music place was next door ther is a cave behind in the hill overlooking the pool,we did a lot of camping down there to just get away close to town that also is one of my cherised memories with my kids and friends

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Since: Oct 09

Lancaster will always be home

#79 Apr 24, 2010
1 Tinkerbell wrote:
When they were building the big bridge i worked for Father Beiting and i did all the inventory at all the stores there.Before the flood took it all mostley,i had to count every single thing in the little store,it had a horse place next door to buy all kinds of saddles etc,i ate at the restaurant over looking the river as i remember the country music place was next door ther is a cave behind in the hill overlooking the pool,we did a lot of camping down there to just get away close to town that also is one of my cherised memories with my kids and friends
I loved the restaurant..the food was great, my best friends used to want to eat there on Sundays..i loved the fish there, and i'm not a fish person. I remember the cave up there..everything looked so grown up..i am thinking that log house burned, did they rebuild it?
Seems like there were two little service stations across the road from each other..way back when.....that flood made a big mess out of a good thing. I had a freind that lived up the old road..and there used to be a tiny church up there that my cousins hubby preached at. It was a liveley place in the early 70s.

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Since: Oct 09

Lancaster will always be home

#80 Apr 30, 2010
The Lawman wrote:
<quoted text> That's what is was in the beginning. A hotel for the river boat rich people 200 years ago. I've been in it in the 60s and I didn't see a stream of water giong through it. there was a log house on the garrard side, way up on the side of the hill, that had a stream going under it. It was for the rich sugar bearings to have there parties. remember this was river boat time I was told it burned down in the late 1800s too. And devilish you don't know shi? about it. So go to bed you a?? hole
I thought i'd bump this back at the top so it would refresh your memory..spyguy..ya need to keep in mind just where ya went bonkers....too bad the insane posse thread got taken down....it has some good reading from your....tantrum and threats..i could mail you a copy if you'd like it for your certification

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