Lanai wind farm project whips up fears

GARY KUBOTA / GKUBOTA@STARBULLETIN.COM Lanai resident Sam Shin, right, shown seated with friends outside the Blue Ginger Cafe, is worried about the impact a proposed wind farm could have on game hunting. Full Story
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Since: Jul 08

Lana'i

#168 Nov 10, 2010
Rustynuts333 wrote:
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WRONG!!!
The State has volunteered to do the cabling portion so the environmental report can be skipped (As in the Super Ferry). The State is TAX PAYERS.
Why not put the windmills on OAHU??? They said it was "Inappropriate and might ruin some historical sites" So, We don't have any site here? They have already mapped over 30 historical Hawaiian Sites in the windmill area.
Well said RustyNuts

Since: Jul 08

Lana'i

#169 Nov 10, 2010
Mano1 wrote:
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Gotta do dumb...you need to get your facts straight. Lanai people are not in the dark ages. You obviously are in the dark ages with your dumb statements about Lanai people ...who you know nothing about and what its all about to live there.
You think CC takes care of the local people? Again...you show how stupid you really are and how you have no clue of what CC has done for decades to the people and land. Why don't you read some facts before making dumb statements. Learn before you move your mouth and dumb words come out of it like mules rear end.
I lived there for 18 years and have been back every year since. There is a culture that is inter-woven with the land we need to preserve...including hunting, fishing, hiking, rare plants and birds. Lanai was the Kings favorite fishing ground. We need to be smart about what you call progress and solns so we don't end up creating more problems for the people today and in the future.
The harbor was a Congressional plus up who we thank our Hawaii Senator for and not CC's Mr. Murdock who is all about solns that make him more money. You would want Lanai people to thank CC for destroying the plantation while it still made money...and drove the people to work for two hotels forcing a life style that brought increased health issues and brought dumb people like you to the island that raped the land of fish, animals, and brought drugs. The people who now are servants to the rich people who stay in those hotels and buy mil dollar homes.
As for wind mills on Lanai to feed the States hunger for electricity (yes ignorant soul..the plan is to build a lot of wind mills on this small island (14 x14 mi) to supply a lot of electricity to Oahu via a underwater cable)...its cheaper and smarter to build them on Oahu. You save on building, maintenance and reduce the loss of power getting it between islands....and...higher mountains on Oahu that have more average wind per year will produce more power. Take the wind mills, your rail transit, lots of crime drugs, and continue to help the large companies rape your culture, land and oceans...and all of what you call solns. We want to continue to watch that experiment and learn from your mistakes. We continue to reap from what we learn from people like you.
Very well said.
lanaian

Lanai City, HI

#170 Dec 1, 2010
Maybe the windfarm should be built on Oahu. All the power generated by the proposed wind farm on Lanai would go to Oahu via undersea cable. Mr. Murdock owns a lot of land on Oahu and by putting the wind farm on Oahu the cost of the undersea cable and its maintenance would be saved. By doing this he would not be able to do housing developements in the area of the wind farms and it would help to keep the infrastructure costs in central Oahu down and also provide the needed power. The people of Oahu should greet such a proposal with open arms/
Mokai

Lanai City, HI

#171 Dec 4, 2010
what really pushed me over to no wind farm is recently was Nov 21 in Honolulu passing best buy.I saw what i thought was the homeless camping out on the sidewalk. but when i got home to lanai saw the news and they said that those campers were people waiting for black Friday deals at best buy! that pissed me off greedy people of Honolulu who want power from lanai at the cost of destroying the dry land forest of the island. we are talking about major roads, foundation, and platforms. when it does rain were do you think all the dirt is going to go? i will tell you in the ocean killing the reef! look Honolulu no more fish!who will pay for that all of us that's who especially the island residents. when there is a disaster who is going to come and help us not Oahu for example that last earthquake they were all bas'up lanai was fine taking care of our own. the thing is take care of ur self be fore u can help others when u pono u can help others. Another thing were are they going to get the water to do this project the island water source is already low. we better making water and putting back on the land to restore our aquifers that should be the first step then look at can we do wind this is ass backwards. also sun go down go SLEEP! save electric. you like extra electric get a generator bike and paddle good health rotate your family on it. tap into all the fitness clubs free energy there they can put out couple megawatts now that's being effective.
Fisherman

United States

#172 Feb 17, 2011
ipj737 wrote:
"the generators create a hum that is bad for animals"
"the generators can kill birdies"
"the generators cost a lot to install and will take up to 5 years to pay back"
"the generators are ugly"
"the generators cast big shadows that dizzy people below"
"the generators use a lot of steel to make them and this ruins the environment"
The statements above just reinforce my reasoning that this country would be much better off without elderly ultra-far rightwing nutjobs. Luckily, most of the loud-mouth ones are ready to kick the bucket... ridding ourselves of these nonsensical morons will finally allow progress in this country. Let's all hope this happens sooner than later. I'm sick and tired of seeing a handful of mentally twisted individuals ruin it for the vast majority.
Post #36 Sept. 1, 2008

Where are you IPJ?

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