Lanai wind farm project whips up fears

Full story: Honolulu Star-Bulletin

GARY KUBOTA / GKUBOTA@STARBULLETIN.COM Lanai resident Sam Shin, right, shown seated with friends outside the Blue Ginger Cafe, is worried about the impact a proposed wind farm could have on game hunting.

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Aging Observer

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Alternate means of energy is the future. The hunters are past and present. There lies the need to balance interests and come up with a solution that will benefit the majority of the people. Everyone is griping about the cost of gas and reliance on oil may be helped with the development of energy alternatives like wind.
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I'm not sure what the hunter's concerns are except for not being consulted. Are they worried about a potential lack of access to the wilderness areas? Having seen wind farms all over Europe, I don't think they need to worry about sheep or deer populations. Windfarms coexist with both wild and domestic mammals. They can be a problem for bird populations, but it seems this issue is being addressed.
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I admire Castle & Cooke for helping to protect Lanai and the rest of Hawaii's environment through its investment in the wind farm. I have confidence that the Castle & Cooke team and the hunters of Lanai many of whom retired from Castle & Cooke will reach an agreement on minimizing the impact that the windmills have upon hunting practices on the island. Hawaii has an opportunity and perhaps an obligation to the rest of the United States to show that we can continue to flourish without fossil fuels.
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This project will be built and much to the benefit of the people of Hawaii.
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Any estimates on how many deer and sheep live on Lanai?

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Local Afar wrote:
I'm not sure what the hunter's concerns are except for not being consulted. Are they worried about a potential lack of access to the wilderness areas? Having seen wind farms all over Europe, I don't think they need to worry about sheep or deer populations. Windfarms coexist with both wild and domestic mammals. They can be a problem for bird populations, but it seems this issue is being addressed.
I agree with you, "Local Afar". While I understand the concerns for the hunters (And the need to continue hunting), windfarms are needed to create alternative energies in order for Hawai'i to become energy independent.

Hopefully this can be rectified where all parties will be satisfied.
TERRY

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The wind farm is a libreral joke.they will have to run five years to recoop the energy it cost to make them and get them there
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but ...

may need to consider the long term effects of ...

low frequency hum generated from turbine blades as it affects game population ...

deer, sheep, and pigs may not reproduce at desired rates ...

also, Hawaiian owls will be affected ...

they tend to fly above the tree tops at the same levels of the rotating wind turbine blades ...

Blue Ginger cafe get really ono saimin ...

mahalo
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TERRY wrote:
The wind farm is a libreral joke.they will have to run five years to recoop the energy it cost to make them and get them there
Whis is why the wind farm is a long term investment, as is an kind of power plant. I'm not convinced the up front cost is much better or worse than a petro-fueled power plant, but the return after five years is very competative. Of course there is zero fuel consumed but for maintenance, and there is plenty of equivilant expense for conventional power generators. It has been very sucessful in Ireland, England, and Germany.
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Murdoch already owns the land they cross to get to the hunting areas. He can block it off anytime he wishes, even if there are not wind farms there. On Oahu there are many public hunting areas but they are inaccessible because private lands need to be crossed to get to the areas. The land owners for the most part have chosen to now allow access across their lands. I'm sure the same laws would apply on Lanai.
And it appears that some Lanai folks are putting their own personal interest ahead of the interest of the public.
It might be in Lanai's best interest to be neighborly instead of resisting change. They have the opportunity to lead the way.
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if you housing hunters you better be permitted to do so, maui does not like tvr's, it likes telling people what they can do with their property
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All the years I lived in Hawaii I never knew that there was hunting on Lanai , seems like a rather small island for hunting ! I would not build a wind farm on Lanai as it could affect the native bird population , why not build solar cells instead !
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Why don't you cry babies on Lanai shut up.
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My first experience with wind generation units was twenty years ago in the Altamont Pass area near Livermore Ca. I thought then that they were a grotesque blight on the landscape. Their financial viability was contingent upon the local utility company's having to purchase their output at a higher rate than the utility company charged its customers. The only saving grace was that they were located in a fairly remote area. This is no longer the case and the ugliness is there for all to see on a daily basis nowadays. In my opinion there is no place for them in the beautiful Hawaiian Islands. Nuclear is hugely a better alternative.
told u so

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Sorry about the Hunters sefish attitude.
There comes a time when u have 2 look at the big picture.
If u know anything about economics, then u would conclude that whatever helps most people than what helps a "FEW".

Why can't people stop being so dam selfish?
Especially the older generation.
Can u not c that the modern scientific technology will improve our daily lives?

Do u not think the Superferry will is a positive step?

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told u so wrote:
Sorry about the Hunters sefish attitude. There comes a time when u have 2 look at the big picture. If u know anything about economics, then u would conclude that whatever helps most people than what helps a "FEW".
Why can't people stop being so dam selfish? Especially the older generation. Can u not c that the modern scientific technology will improve our daily lives? Do u not think the Superferry will is a positive step?
Why would you assume these hunters are being selfish? This is their livelyhood and it helps them to put food on the table. They have a legitimate concern.

This situation can come to an agreeable understanding between the two parties. They just need to sit down and talk this out. Lana'i can have both hunting and the wind farm.
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I think the windfarm can co-exist and hunting will still be feasible. At his age, he is still willing to do something good for this State.

Mr. Murdock won't make a dime during his lifetime with the windfarm project. It will take years of planning and time to obtain the proper permits .

It is always the few (activist) individuals that screw the entire population.
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It was already established by the developer that no gates or fences would block access to hunting and fishing areas. So why is this story even being published??
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The people of Lanai need to get out of the dark ages. You have the highest cost of gasoline and food in the state and probably electricity as well. C&C essentially owns the land and they have taken care of the residents. Just take a look at your harbor. At least this man is looking to provide a solution rather than bitch.

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Eric Seabury wrote:
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This situation can come to an agreeable understanding between the two parties. They just need to sit down and talk this out. Lana'i can have both hunting and the wind farm.
Hi Eric. It's nice to see that some people are fair and reasonable.

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