Lanai's la ola solar farm is dedicate...

Lanai's la ola solar farm is dedicated - Business

There are 29 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Jan 7, 2009, titled Lanai's la ola solar farm is dedicated - Business. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

Isle developer Castle & Cooke Inc. formally completed construction of the largest single-site solar farm in the state yesterday, although it has been operational since mid-December. Some facts, from Castle & ...

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an observer

Honolulu, HI

#21 Jan 7, 2009
Mento wrote:
Sounds great. Let's see ...
5000 barrels of oil saved each year.
A barrel of oil costs around $50 right now.
That's a savings of 5000 x $50 =$250,000.
The solar panels only cost $19 million.
I wonder how much they are planning to charge for each kilowatt sold?
Looking at the wrong numbers. The question is what does $50/bbl oil translate to in current $/kWh for Lanai customers? At the article states, it's currently over $0.50/kWh, so that's the threshhold that needs to be overcome, which definitely has to be the case otherwise this project would never have been undertaken. With the tax credits involved it's definitely a win-win for both the developer and customers.
Farmer

Honolulu, HI

#22 Jan 7, 2009
Kuokoa wrote:
MY concern is that 10 ACRES of prime agricultural land is being used to produce only 30% of the electricity needed at peak demand! Could that land maybe be used go grow FOOD? A power plant that uses oil that otherwise would be not used anywhere else only takes a fraction of the space being used by this solar "farm". Additionally, people, we are not in a period of global warming, we are at the beginning of a new ICE AGE in which much of the Earth will freeze.
That was far from being prime Agriculture land and it would have layed vacant. It was rated very, very low as Ag land.
Gee we can use Ag land for Bio fuels and seed corn but not to generate clean energy. Seems a little dumb.
Ag on the scale of Sugar Cane and Pineapple is dead in Hawaii. That's why all these big land holders have become developers.
realmerv

Mililani, HI

#23 Jan 7, 2009
mauisurfer wrote:
wrong technology
Solar THERMAL is much more efficient than photovoltaic for an application this size. Solar thermal stores HEAT, so power can be produced when there is little sun. Solar thermal does NOT use silicon, it is completely proven known technology. There are more than 20 solar thermal powerplants in California that have been operating 24/7 for over 20 years. The newest one now being built is at Gila Bend, Arizona. The Arizona Public Utilities Commission is years ahead of Lingle, Tavares, and HECO/MECO.
Google this:
Abengoa solar, Gila Bend, Arizona.
Lingle, Tavares, and HECO/MECO had nothing to do with the solar farm. It is the developer, Castle & Cooke who developed the solar project after obtaining all the permits to proceed and complete the project.

Politicians may talk about energy projects but it takes private developers to complete the projects. The developer is the one who decides what technology to use for his project since he is the one risking his capital.
realmerv

Mililani, HI

#24 Jan 7, 2009
We have a lot of unproductive lava land zoned ag or conservation on the Big Island on the Kona side of the island that would be ideal for solar farms. Solar farms could be built in the areas between Kailua-Kona and Waikoloa and hidden away in the low lying areas and out of sight from the Queen Kaahumanu Hwy.
Forward Observer

Honolulu, HI

#25 Jan 7, 2009
an observer wrote:
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Looking at the wrong numbers. The question is what does $50/bbl oil translate to in current $/kWh for Lanai customers? At the article states, it's currently over $0.50/kWh, so that's the threshhold that needs to be overcome, which definitely has to be the case otherwise this project would never have been undertaken. With the tax credits involved it's definitely a win-win for both the developer and customers.
Tax credits equal taxpayer subsidy. So the price of electricity generated from this project is affordable for Lanai residents only because other taxpayers are paying part of the bill?
Forward Observer

Honolulu, HI

#26 Jan 7, 2009
... Politicians may talk about energy projects but it takes private developers to complete the projects. The developer is the one who decides what technology to use for his project since he is the one risking his capital.
Nice talk but according to other comments this project would not be feasible but for taxpayer subsidies in the form of tax credits. Although reducing our reliance on imported fossil fuels should our goal we should not deceive ourselves into believing that replacement technologies will be cheaper than fossil fuels.
alice

Maunaloa, HI

#27 Jan 7, 2009
Lanai deserves congrats for this wise policy
Forward Observer

Honolulu, HI

#28 Jan 7, 2009
<quoted text>
Looking at the wrong numbers. The question is what does $50/bbl oil translate to in current $/kWh for Lanai customers? At the article states, it's currently over $0.50/kWh, so that's the threshhold that needs to be overcome, which definitely has to be the case otherwise this project would never have been undertaken. With the tax credits involved it's definitely a win-win for both the developer and customers.
I seem to recall that the price per kWh in Honolulu is $.35. It makes sense then that the solar plant was built on Lanai because of the high of electricity there. But everyone needs to keep in mind that the true cost per kWh from solar is higher than even $.50 (which is the cost from fossil fuels there). The only reason they might be paying less is because YOU, the taxpayers, are subsidizing Lanai's energy costs through tax credits. That includes the electricity used by those pricey hotels there, too. Still feeling good about this?

Since: Jul 08

Lana'i

#29 Nov 10, 2010
Forward Observer wrote:
<quoted text> I seem to recall that the price per kWh in Honolulu is $.35. It makes sense then that the solar plant was built on Lanai because of the high of electricity there. But everyone needs to keep in mind that the true cost per kWh from solar is higher than even $.50 (which is the cost from fossil fuels there). The only reason they might be paying less is because YOU, the taxpayers, are subsidizing Lanai's energy costs through tax credits. That includes the electricity used by those pricey hotels there, too. Still feeling good about this?
Even with the Solar Farms, Lana'i still has the highest rates.

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