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Farmers, immigrants unite against E-Verify | Legislature

There are 42 comments on the Seattle Post-Intelligencer story from Jan 28, 2012, titled Farmers, immigrants unite against E-Verify | Legislature. In it, Seattle Post-Intelligencer reports that:

In Olympia, it's not too often immigrant-advocacy groups and farmers are on the same side of a proposed bill.

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Since: Jun 11

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#1 Jan 28, 2012
Screw these greedy farmer basturds. They demand the right to break the law and hire cheap illegals instead of americans!!

Since: Aug 11

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#2 Jan 28, 2012
support for illegal aliens,here is what you get when you welcome these folks

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2012/01/expert-...

when this happens near you thank those who want illegal aliens here and borders open,there is no way to know who is and who is not part of things like this.

this is old and if anyone want to check more has been found

“Legals against Illegals!”

Since: Dec 11

Willing to stand and Fight!

#3 Jan 28, 2012
E-verify should be required by law in every state,city town etc.
I wish you could walk into a business and ask to see a verified list on any/all employees.
I would feel more secure if I could see for myself that all have been verified.
A company may have a "we verify"sign posted on wall but how do we know they really do it?
I do not want any personal info..Just a
'joe blow' has been verified for employment or something like that.

http://redbloodedamericans.webs.com/
I Agree

Saint Louis, MO

#4 Jan 29, 2012
DfwDude wrote:
E-verify should be required by law in every state,city town etc.
I wish you could walk into a business and ask to see a verified list on any/all employees.
I would feel more secure if I could see for myself that all have been verified.
A company may have a "we verify"sign posted on wall but how do we know they really do it?
I do not want any personal info..Just a
'joe blow' has been verified for employment or something like that.
http://redbloodedamericans.webs.com/
Exactly DfwDude!
magadala

Vashon, WA

#5 Jan 29, 2012
The head of the "One America" is an immigrant from India. I often ask why is she here crusading for illegal aliens in America, doesn't India have a lot more problems to work on...their caste system which is still there is a good one for starters.

The only people who will have a problem with e-verify are illegal aliens. US citizens, especially American born, should be able to get a state certified copy of their bc within a week.

A bunch of bs on the minority and elderly who don't have documentation! It's a put down on two groups. My father, who was a visible minority, died about 5 years ago at the age of 92. He had a birth certificate and as much documentation as I did.
Atlanta

United States

#6 Jan 29, 2012
Speeders Kill Kids wrote:
Screw these greedy farmer basturds. They demand the right to break the law and hire cheap illegals instead of americans!!
Harvesting is piece work, not hourly waged work. Laborers are paid based on how much they produce, you know, pay for performance. If you want to earn the $16 an hour that the undocumented laborer gets then perform at this level. I seriously doubt any of you critics are ready to go out into the fields and work for a living. I've done it. It is hard work. harder than any American I know is willing to perform. Why do you think migratory workers have come to the US since the 1940 to work the harvests.
Atlanta

United States

#7 Jan 29, 2012
Speeders Kill Kids wrote:
Screw these greedy farmer basturds. They demand the right to break the law and hire cheap illegals instead of americans!!
By law, each worker must earn minimum wage, or $7.25 an hour. But there’s an incentive system. Harvesters get a green ticket worth 50 cents every time they dump a bucket of cucumbers. If they collect more than 15 tickets an hour, they can beat minimum wage.
The Latino workers moved furiously Thursday for the extra pay.
Jose Ranye, 37, bragged he’s the best picker in Americus, the largest community near the farm. His whirling hands filled one bucket in 25 seconds. He said he dumped about 200 buckets of cucumbers before lunch, meaning he earned roughly $20 an hour. He expected to double his tickets before the end of the day.
None of the probationers could keep pace. Pay records showed the best filled only 134 buckets a day, and some as little as 20.
Atlanta

United States

#8 Jan 29, 2012
Speeders Kill Kids wrote:
Screw these greedy farmer basturds. They demand the right to break the law and hire cheap illegals instead of americans!!
“People in Alabama are not going to do this,” said Smith, who grows about 75 acres of tomatoes in the northeast part of the state.“They’d work one day and then just wouldn’t show up again.” 
At his farm, field workers get $2 for every 25-pound box of tomatoes they fill. Skilled pickers can make anywhere from $200 -$300 a day, he said. 
A crew of four Hispanics can earn about $150 each by picking 250-300 boxes of tomatoes in a day, said Jerry Spencer, of Grow Alabama, which purchases and sells locally owned produce. A crew of 25 Americans recently picked 200 boxes — giving them each $24 for the day. 
Atlanta

United States

#9 Jan 29, 2012
Speeders Kill Kids wrote:
Screw these greedy farmer basturds. They demand the right to break the law and hire cheap illegals instead of americans!!
Asked the reasons for the difficulty in finding workers, many said “the work is too physically demanding and difficult for U.S. citizens (non-immigrants),” the report said.“Respondents believe that only immigrant workers are willing to do the tasks needed in their operations. An additional theme is that respondents believe that it is difficult to find qualified and trained workers to aid in their operation.”
The report said that employers reported paying their workers at or above the federal minimum wage, with some paying $15 per hour or more. But even with the state unemployment rate of nearly 10 percent, the report said, farm jobs remained difficult to fill.
sterco

Polson, MT

#10 Jan 29, 2012
Atlanta wrote:
<quoted text>Asked the reasons for the difficulty in finding workers, many said “the work is too physically demanding and difficult for U.S. citizens (non-immigrants),” the report said.“Respondents believe that only immigrant workers are willing to do the tasks needed in their operations. An additional theme is that respondents believe that it is difficult to find qualified and trained workers to aid in their operation.”
The report said that employers reported paying their workers at or above the federal minimum wage, with some paying $15 per hour or more. But even with the state unemployment rate of nearly 10 percent, the report said, farm jobs remained difficult to fill.
CRAM YOUR SPAM FAST HARD AND HIGH AZZHOLE!!!
sterco

Polson, MT

#11 Jan 29, 2012
Atlanta wrote:
<quoted text>Asked the reasons for the difficulty in finding workers, many said “the work is too physically demanding and difficult for U.S. citizens (non-immigrants),” the report said.“Respondents believe that only immigrant workers are willing to do the tasks needed in their operations. An additional theme is that respondents believe that it is difficult to find qualified and trained workers to aid in their operation.”
The report said that employers reported paying their workers at or above the federal minimum wage, with some paying $15 per hour or more. But even with the state unemployment rate of nearly 10 percent, the report said, farm jobs remained difficult to fill.
http://farm.ewg.org/region.php...
ZIAmouth585

Albuquerque, NM

#12 Jan 29, 2012
Who else is opposing e-verify? The Chamber of Commerce which represents small businessman. I've said it many, many times, American businesses want illegal labor, it keeps their costs low and profits up. Nothing they love more than all the focus on the border thus keeping them out of the limelight.

Since: Aug 10

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#13 Jan 29, 2012
Oh really? Do they unite against this? Fields of Shame~Migrant camp~~Mexican men think that this is the manly thing to do..it's part of their culture in Mexico~~ http://www.youtube.com/watch... ...think American's should allow such behavior as well?..you know, assimilate to their ways of doing things like they want us to do..."if you can't beat us..then join us"...Cuz it sure seems like we CAN'T beat um...LOOK AROUND!
Dee Dee Dee

Coopersburg, PA

#14 Jan 29, 2012
Wow another story by criminals who think they should be exempt from the law. Boo Hoo.
sterco

Polson, MT

#16 Jan 29, 2012
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sterco

Polson, MT

#17 Jan 29, 2012
SO LONG ALABAMA

Illegal immigrants are boycotting ALABAMA by the thousands, showing their outrage with ALABAMA’s controversial new SB-1070 law by moving elsewhere.

In the small town of HOOVER, AL, south of BIRMINGHAM, Manuel Renaldo is one of those who is punishing ALABAMA by leaving. As he loaded his car with his belongings and family of ten, Renaldo told this reporter through an interpreter, "It's a matter of principle; I refuse to be supported by a state that treats me like a criminal!"

The effects of the exodus are being felt by ALABAMA retailers, who are reporting dwindling sales of beer, spray paint, and ammunition. Also hit hard are the states hospitals, which have reported a dramatic decline in unreimbursed births and emergency room visits. Tattoo parlors are in a state of panic.

Renaldo told a reporter through an interpreter that he and his family are moving to California, a Democratic State that will support him and his family with dignity!

Kind of brings a tear to your eye, doesn't it!
U Hauls

De Soto, KS

#18 Jan 29, 2012
sterco wrote:
SO LONG ALABAMA
Illegal immigrants are boycotting ALABAMA by the thousands, showing their outrage with ALABAMA’s controversial new SB-1070 law by moving elsewhere.
In the small town of HOOVER, AL, south of BIRMINGHAM, Manuel Renaldo is one of those who is punishing ALABAMA by leaving. As he loaded his car with his belongings and family of ten, Renaldo told this reporter through an interpreter, "It's a matter of principle; I refuse to be supported by a state that treats me like a criminal!"
The effects of the exodus are being felt by ALABAMA retailers, who are reporting dwindling sales of beer, spray paint, and ammunition. Also hit hard are the states hospitals, which have reported a dramatic decline in unreimbursed births and emergency room visits. Tattoo parlors are in a state of panic.
Renaldo told a reporter through an interpreter that he and his family are moving to California, a Democratic State that will support him and his family with dignity!
Kind of brings a tear to your eye, doesn't it!
U-haul must be busy? lmao
Moving to CA

De Soto, KS

#19 Jan 30, 2012
California needs more illegals. They can have them!
Free is free

Tijeras, NM

#20 Jan 30, 2012
Atlanta wrote:
“Respondents believe that only immigrant workers are willing to do the tasks needed in their operations. An additional theme is that respondents believe that it is difficult to find qualified and trained workers to aid in their operation.”
Key weasel word: "believed". In other words, they don't have to provide proof; just the attestation that they believe American citizens won't do the work.

Lies, lies and distortions from Big Ag and their cheerleaders. These people should be hung for lying to the American public.
ZIAmouth585

Albuquerque, NM

#21 Jan 30, 2012
Free is free wrote:
<quoted text>
Key weasel word: "believed". In other words, they don't have to provide proof; just the attestation that they believe American citizens won't do the work.
Lies, lies and distortions from Big Ag and their cheerleaders. These people should be hung for lying to the American public.
There are many jobs Americans WON'T do including farm work. I'm still waiting to read about a success story where a farmer was able to get Americans to pick crops in sufficient numbers. Sure, some Americans will do the dirty work but most won't. Illegal labor not only will pick the crops but they will hand around long enough to become very proficient at doing it.

I'm not a supporter of illegals but I do support a program to allow Mexicans to enter the US legally to pick crops then leave. You say farmers are lying, please point me to articles that show Americans becoming migrant farm workers.

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