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mapleman

Northfield, OH

#65 Jan 5, 2011
You know I am for welfare reform. How many times have you heard me advocate "fixing" folks so they can't have more children? How many times have you heard me say people should have to be married(to stop the making a career out of having kids)?

All I am saying is I can understand under the current system how people take advantage of it. The system is there for if you or I fall on hard times, to help us get by. You pay into it so collecting from it for a few months wouldn't be a handout.

And just because you chose a career you don't want to do doesn't mean others want to go that route.

And holy shjt SJM, you husband is a coder and doesn't work in the field? I didn't even see that. It's thanks to dirty bastards like myself that use oversea coders for pennies on the dollar that he is in that position. I've been in the IT field for years and saw what they were doing 10 years ago and decided if you can't beat them, join them, and went into business for myself and use the same tactics they use.

See xxx, that's my attitude, I wasn't about to be working in customer service or unemployed. Life is too short to do something for a living that I don't want to do. There are people that grab the world by the balls like me and others that just take what is given.
sjm

Columbus, OH

#66 Jan 5, 2011
mapleman wrote:
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You pay taxes right? How is getting your money back a handout? You husband was unemployed for a year, right? He could have went down to minutemen and been working 6 days a week.
Business is about exploiting others. That's life. My father thought like you. That foolish pride. He lived a hard life because of it. As a businessman I exploit my customers for the highest rate I can get a way with while paying contractors the lowest.
I can look myself in the eye in the mirror and know that I am nobody's sucker. Can you say the same? Look how cutthroat Bill Gates is. Donald Trump. Steve Jobs. Businessmen are like gangsters with pens.
You sound just like my father. Prideful while he busted his hump while the big man sat in the air condition or was on the gulf course exploiting my father and the many other pack mules workers. He never wanted me to live that life. He wanted me to be the smart one. The one that did the exploiting. He wanted me to work smart, not hard like him.
Did he raise me to be the cold and calculating businessman I am. No. He just wanted me to get an education and be a boss. It was his early passing after working himself to the grave that made me what I am. I refuse to be exploited.
You sound like a stand up individual, I just hope you wake up before you really do work yourself into an early grave like my father did. It's not worth it. He missed out on some beautiful grandchildren, and for what? Foolish pride.
I don't know where you seem to get this impression that I'm exploited, just because I'm willing to work a menial job instead of sitting on my ass. I'm an educated woman in a managerial position. I'm WILLING to do menial labor if need be, and I have in the past, but I haven't done physical labor since I graduated college.

Being financially cautious is second nature to me, and I don't aspire to status symbols like a big house on a golf course or two overpriced SUV's in my driveway. We bought a small house because that is all we NEED. We drive cars until they're no longer running because it's stupid to finance a vehicle, drive it til you pay it off, then finance another one. We don't waste money on toys and gadgets because there are better things we can do with it. I'd rather take the 3K I could spend on a really nice TV and spend it on private school for my daughter when she starts kindergarten next fall. I'd rather take the $400 I could spend on an iPhone and buy family passes to COSI and the zoo.

You call it foolish pride to work for what I have? I call it self sufficiency. I don't trust the government to take care of my family, and as long as I'm physically capable of doing it myself I will.
mapleman

Northfield, OH

#67 Jan 5, 2011
sjm wrote:
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I don't know where you seem to get this impression that I'm exploited, just because I'm willing to work a menial job instead of sitting on my ass. I'm an educated woman in a managerial position. I'm WILLING to do menial labor if need be, and I have in the past, but I haven't done physical labor since I graduated college.
Being financially cautious is second nature to me, and I don't aspire to status symbols like a big house on a golf course or two overpriced SUV's in my driveway. We bought a small house because that is all we NEED. We drive cars until they're no longer running because it's stupid to finance a vehicle, drive it til you pay it off, then finance another one. We don't waste money on toys and gadgets because there are better things we can do with it. I'd rather take the 3K I could spend on a really nice TV and spend it on private school for my daughter when she starts kindergarten next fall. I'd rather take the $400 I could spend on an iPhone and buy family passes to COSI and the zoo.
You call it foolish pride to work for what I have? I call it self sufficiency. I don't trust the government to take care of my family, and as long as I'm physically capable of doing it myself I will.
And I am saying since you pay taxes why wouldn't you get your money back?

If you're are in the accounting field you have to be pulling in at least $45,000 a year and your husband was a coder and had to be making around $50,000 at least. There is no way you two can be anywhere near having to cutback on anything unless you mismanaged money.

Then again you mentioned student loans, I admit I don't know how much that is setting you back as I was on scholarship. I've heard horror stories about student loans(that's the future housing crisis in different form).

Another thing. I pay taxes for a school system my kids don't attend. Think if I ever fall on hard times I wouldn't get my damn money back from government before I pick up a mop bucket? I never called it foolish pride to work for what you have, but you and I both know back breaking physical labor is for suckers. That's why you are in a managerial position and busted your ass to get there.
sjm

Columbus, OH

#68 Jan 6, 2011
mapleman wrote:
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And I am saying since you pay taxes why wouldn't you get your money back?
If you're are in the accounting field you have to be pulling in at least $45,000 a year and your husband was a coder and had to be making around $50,000 at least. There is no way you two can be anywhere near having to cutback on anything unless you mismanaged money.
Then again you mentioned student loans, I admit I don't know how much that is setting you back as I was on scholarship. I've heard horror stories about student loans(that's the future housing crisis in different form).
Another thing. I pay taxes for a school system my kids don't attend. Think if I ever fall on hard times I wouldn't get my damn money back from government before I pick up a mop bucket? I never called it foolish pride to work for what you have, but you and I both know back breaking physical labor is for suckers. That's why you are in a managerial position and busted your **** to get there.
I've only worked part time for the last few years due to the effect the economy has had on our business and the fact that I have 2 children under 5 years of age. Before my husband lost his job it barely affected us. Once I was the primary earner again, it made for a constrained budget since we didn't want to lessen the amount we put towards the student loans. Once you get behind on them, you've basically started a never ending cycle of debt. Be thankful you never had to deal with that mess.

Just because we have paid taxes doesn't mean we felt entitled to use public funds that we didn't need. I can guarantee that if my choices were feeding my kids or not, I would have applied for something, but we chose to tighten our budget and avoid it if possible. We were able to avoid it.

I know we were among the lucky ones in this. We didn't buy more house than we could afford, or saddle ourselves with sky high car payments while the times were good. Other than cutting a few LUXURY items out and having to dip into our savings somewhat our quality of life wasn't affected. And honestly? I've so enjoyed not having a cell phone ringing constantly that I probably won't get another one, so I didn't feel turning them off was a hardship at all.

Do I want to run a register or work a security job again? Not especially. But I don't feel it's beneath me, and I would do it if I had to. I don't like the mentality people are getting that things are beneath them. I shouldn't have to pay for every bad choice somebody makes just because they feel like running the register at WalMart is beneath them.
mapleman

Northfield, OH

#69 Jan 6, 2011
I wouldn't say you were lucky, seems smart to me. I follow the same thinking when it comes to my spending. Do I need a huge house? No. Do I need a Mercedes? No. But I bet you see some of your college buddies or coworkers in huge houses driving luxury cars.

I'd much rather live a stress free life below my means than live a stress filled life at my means. Why people that make good money put themselves in bad situations I will never know.

The only part we seem to disagree on is taxes. LOL I believe I am being taxed too much and indeed my money is wasted. Two crazy wars, making breeding a career choice for people,and the war on drugs and the bloated prison industry are just some examples. Hell, people can argue that NASA is a waste of our tax dollars, private industry can handle that just fine.

I pay more than I think this government should be taking and damn sure feel if I fell on horrific times they should give me some of my damn money back. Who else deserves my tax money? Some flood victims in Indonesia? I don't think so. Not to sound cruel but I am not going to work a register at Walmart while my government is wasting my tax dollars like crazy. I put in and if things come to it, I will take out.
sjm

Westerville, OH

#70 Jan 6, 2011
mapleman wrote:
I wouldn't say you were lucky, seems smart to me. I follow the same thinking when it comes to my spending. Do I need a huge house? No. Do I need a Mercedes? No. But I bet you see some of your college buddies or coworkers in huge houses driving luxury cars.
I'd much rather live a stress free life below my means than live a stress filled life at my means. Why people that make good money put themselves in bad situations I will never know.
The only part we seem to disagree on is taxes. LOL I believe I am being taxed too much and indeed my money is wasted. Two crazy wars, making breeding a career choice for people,and the war on drugs and the bloated prison industry are just some examples. Hell, people can argue that NASA is a waste of our tax dollars, private industry can handle that just fine.
I pay more than I think this government should be taking and damn sure feel if I fell on horrific times they should give me some of my damn money back. Who else deserves my tax money? Some flood victims in Indonesia? I don't think so. Not to sound cruel but I am not going to work a register at Walmart while my government is wasting my tax dollars like crazy. I put in and if things come to it, I will take out.
I don't think we disagree on it as much as we originally thought we did. I do NOT have a problem with people who legitimately need help getting it. I DO have a problem with people who make a career out of collecting benefits via reproduction. There should be a time limit on ALL forms of welfare. If you can't get your shyt together in say 2 years, you'd better have relatives who can take you in because I'm not paying for your lifestyle choices after that.

I don't mind spending money on our military and national defense. Obama was all big talking about ending the war... until he got into office and got the priority briefings. I'm not hearing much from him about pulling out early now. There is more to it than the public knows, or probably ever will know.

I DO mind spending money on making sure prisoners have luxuries that some working class people can't afford. As far as I am concerned, if you break the law your rights stop at a roof over your head, a jumpsuit on your back, and food in your stomach.

The only place we legitimately seem to be at odds is our stance on collecting welfare. I can't NOT work. If I am physically capable of it, I will do it. I don't ask for help unless there is absolutely no other option. Yes, we pay into the system... because we don't have a choice. But if we're drawing on it, then we become part of the problem even if it's only for a little while. We did have to put our children on state health insurance, which was not free, but they'll be off of it in 2 months as soon as we are eligible for private insurance again. I have had many people tell me I should keep them on it since we're dealing with a reduced gorss yearly income, but I would rather pay for insurance that I actually want than pay for insurance where the state tells me our pediatrician isn't in their network or our pediatric dentist won't be covered and we need to pick new providers.
mapleman

Northfield, OH

#71 Jan 6, 2011
sjm wrote:
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I don't think we disagree on it as much as we originally thought we did. I do NOT have a problem with people who legitimately need help getting it. I DO have a problem with people who make a career out of collecting benefits via reproduction. There should be a time limit on ALL forms of welfare. If you can't get your shyt together in say 2 years, you'd better have relatives who can take you in because I'm not paying for your lifestyle choices after that.
I don't mind spending money on our military and national defense. Obama was all big talking about ending the war... until he got into office and got the priority briefings. I'm not hearing much from him about pulling out early now. There is more to it than the public knows, or probably ever will know.
I DO mind spending money on making sure prisoners have luxuries that some working class people can't afford. As far as I am concerned, if you break the law your rights stop at a roof over your head, a jumpsuit on your back, and food in your stomach.
The only place we legitimately seem to be at odds is our stance on collecting welfare. I can't NOT work. If I am physically capable of it, I will do it. I don't ask for help unless there is absolutely no other option. Yes, we pay into the system... because we don't have a choice. But if we're drawing on it, then we become part of the problem even if it's only for a little while. We did have to put our children on state health insurance, which was not free, but they'll be off of it in 2 months as soon as we are eligible for private insurance again. I have had many people tell me I should keep them on it since we're dealing with a reduced gorss yearly income, but I would rather pay for insurance that I actually want than pay for insurance where the state tells me our pediatrician isn't in their network or our pediatric dentist won't be covered and we need to pick new providers.
Obama never said he would end Afghanistan which is what confused me about people putting him in office in the first place. He said he would withdraw from Iraq and is keeping up on that part. It's almost been 10 years we been in Afghanistan, we should have learned from the Soviets that we aren't taming that place. Waste of tax dollars.

I disagree that you become a part of the problem if you draw from what you paid into. The government has no problem bleeding us dry. They have no problem housing non-violent drug offenders for $35,000 a year in prison. They are using my tax dollars to lock up people that otherwise would be working and paying taxes. Imagine if we locked up all the functioning alcoholics in America and took away the money they pay in taxes. Government is wasting my money left and right. If I fall on hard times, screw them. lol

Look at our representatives, both Republican and Democrat. They don't turn down all the perks they get from our tax dollars. They would be fools to do so. Do they need the perks? Hell no. But they have no shame in taking them. I wouldn't either.

If I were you I'd stay on the state insurance for as long as I could and put the money you save away for the future of your children. Think how much even an extra $1,000 can help in the future. The money you save now may be enough for a car for them when they are in school. You know how much every penny counts during college years. After all, you paid your state and federal taxes, the same money America sent overseas to take care of foreign kids.

“Cats rule.”

Since: Dec 09

Chardon Ohio.

#72 Jan 6, 2011
Look at all the money he threw at haiti that suddenly couldn't be accounted for.Hmmmmmm.
mapleman

Northfield, OH

#73 Jan 6, 2011
Catman Dave wrote:
Look at all the money he threw at haiti that suddenly couldn't be accounted for.Hmmmmmm.
Another example of government throwing my money away. I'm a black man and don't care about Haiti. But you have Americans who are getting taxed to death willing to work themselves to death during their rough times instead of taking money that is rightfully theirs.

If you have paid into the system, there are no handouts, it's your money.
sjm

Columbus, OH

#74 Jan 6, 2011
mapleman wrote:
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Obama never said he would end Afghanistan which is what confused me about people putting him in office in the first place. He said he would withdraw from Iraq and is keeping up on that part. It's almost been 10 years we been in Afghanistan, we should have learned from the Soviets that we aren't taming that place. Waste of tax dollars.
I disagree that you become a part of the problem if you draw from what you paid into. The government has no problem bleeding us dry. They have no problem housing non-violent drug offenders for $35,000 a year in prison. They are using my tax dollars to lock up people that otherwise would be working and paying taxes. Imagine if we locked up all the functioning alcoholics in America and took away the money they pay in taxes. Government is wasting my money left and right. If I fall on hard times, screw them. lol
Look at our representatives, both Republican and Democrat. They don't turn down all the perks they get from our tax dollars. They would be fools to do so. Do they need the perks? Hell no. But they have no shame in taking them. I wouldn't either.
If I were you I'd stay on the state insurance for as long as I could and put the money you save away for the future of your children. Think how much even an extra $1,000 can help in the future. The money you save now may be enough for a car for them when they are in school. You know how much every penny counts during college years. After all, you paid your state and federal taxes, the same money America sent overseas to take care of foreign kids.
But the state insurance sucks, and what I'm paying for it isn't all that much of a savings over what I would pay in premiums for a private policy through my husband's new job. I would rather be able to have whichever provider I choose and not have to call to check on every little thing to make sure it's covered beforehand. If they need it, they get it. Period.

And I'm one of those mean parents who don't give allowances or plan on providing a car just because one of my children hits a numerical milestone. Now, if they want to have summer jobs and save up for half the cost and pay towards their insurance... then we'll talk vehicles. Pocket money comes from extra chores. I don't pay people to breathe in my house.

My 4 year old can already help me load the dishes, put folded towels in the linen closet, knows which drawers her and her brothers clothes go into, can make her bed like a champ, and sorts her laundry into the right hamper. If she does all of those little things she gets a $5 to put in her piggy every Friday. She gets an extra $1 for every day that I don't have to remind her to clean her room before dinner. I'd say at least 4 out of 7 days she remembers.

When she turns 5 in May we're going to take Piggy to the bank and let her open a savings account. If she plays her cards right she'll have enough to buy a decent used car when she's 16 or 17 and I won't have to give her anything.
mapleman

Northfield, OH

#75 Jan 7, 2011
sjm wrote:
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But the state insurance sucks, and what I'm paying for it isn't all that much of a savings over what I would pay in premiums for a private policy through my husband's new job. I would rather be able to have whichever provider I choose and not have to call to check on every little thing to make sure it's covered beforehand. If they need it, they get it. Period.
And I'm one of those mean parents who don't give allowances or plan on providing a car just because one of my children hits a numerical milestone. Now, if they want to have summer jobs and save up for half the cost and pay towards their insurance... then we'll talk vehicles. Pocket money comes from extra chores. I don't pay people to breathe in my house.
My 4 year old can already help me load the dishes, put folded towels in the linen closet, knows which drawers her and her brothers clothes go into, can make her bed like a champ, and sorts her laundry into the right hamper. If she does all of those little things she gets a $5 to put in her piggy every Friday. She gets an extra $1 for every day that I don't have to remind her to clean her room before dinner. I'd say at least 4 out of 7 days she remembers.
When she turns 5 in May we're going to take Piggy to the bank and let her open a savings account. If she plays her cards right she'll have enough to buy a decent used car when she's 16 or 17 and I won't have to give her anything.
I don't consider my kids cleaning up after themselves chores. Pick up your toys. In our home, those who dirty a dish wash it right away. When in school, get good grades and don't get in any trouble. As long as they play by my rules, they get what they want. Don't play by my rules and your life becomes a living hell.
We have trust funds for all of them, though they have no idea they will be getting money.

My 10 year old is already on the ball. He kept hitting me up for more and more money until I finally told him it's time for him to get his own. I'll still take care of you, but you are getting too expensive for me. I showed him some ways he can make money online and now he can't stop. That little boy made over $3,000 last year(some of which I have to pay taxes on lol). The part I am proud of is he saved the majority of it without me having to tell him.

Now he is asking me if he can help me with my work. LOL
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#76 Jan 7, 2011
Excellent lesson to teach your children.

My father worked as a bricklayer. While he was loading his van to do a side-job for extra money, I approached him and asked for five dollars. Mind you, this was the early 70's when i was in my teens, and five dollars had a greater value than today.

He asked "what makes you think I have five dollars?" I replied "Because you work, so I know you do have five dollars." He said "Well..... if that's how I got my five dollars--that's how you are going to get yours.... get in the van."

Since the age of 12, I worked for my father in the summer during my adolescent years. Grueling work: I had to mix cement, carry clamps of bricks up scaffolding, and haul heavy cement blocks to the work site. My father paid me $1.00 per hour.

I consider myself fortunate that my father was able to pass his work ethics to me, but I feel many other parents don't, or otherwise are unable to. But if you can, I say "good for you." You don't know how valuable your guidance and mentoring is to your child.
sjm

Columbus, OH

#77 Jan 8, 2011
mapleman wrote:
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I don't consider my kids cleaning up after themselves chores. Pick up your toys. In our home, those who dirty a dish wash it right away. When in school, get good grades and don't get in any trouble. As long as they play by my rules, they get what they want. Don't play by my rules and your life becomes a living hell.
We have trust funds for all of them, though they have no idea they will be getting money.
My 10 year old is already on the ball. He kept hitting me up for more and more money until I finally told him it's time for him to get his own. I'll still take care of you, but you are getting too expensive for me. I showed him some ways he can make money online and now he can't stop. That little boy made over $3,000 last year(some of which I have to pay taxes on lol). The part I am proud of is he saved the majority of it without me having to tell him.
Now he is asking me if he can help me with my work. LOL
Cleaning her room is expected and gets done every day regardless, I only reward her for not making me remind her.

I do pay her for the other things because she is only 4 and already helping with laundry and dishes. Taking her plate to the sink after dinner is expected. Helping me scrape, rinse, and load the dishwasher is an extra that she does. Bringing her hamper out on laundry day and putting her dirty clothing in it every day is expected. Helping me sort the loads, fold, and put away is an extra.

Things will change as she gets older obviously, but for now she does more than most other 4 year olds I know.

Grades are non-negotiable with us as well. My husband's family tried to bribe him for grades, mine just expected them. We're taking my approach on this one.
mapleman

Northfield, OH

#78 Jan 8, 2011
Yeah, I had backbreaking jobs also. My father was determined to teach me a lesson about education, something he didn't have. He'd always tell me if I didn't hit the books I'd end up in a shop or doing that backbreaking work for the rest of my life. The thought horrified me. LOL

Those lessons my father taught me made me hate and detest any form of manual labor and want to push myself as far away from that as possible.

I tell my son he doesn't know what "real work" is. He asks me if what I do is "real work" and I tell him hell no. I tell him real work is busting you ass for 10 hours, standing on your feet, breaking your back and coming home so tired and beat it hurts to do anything else.
Sandy Mannino ACO Maple

United States

#79 Jan 13, 2011
anonomous wrote:
sure was a wonderful person who got the puppies rescued, you truly are
an angel and to the evil one who tied those puppies in that box and left
them to die, the Devil has a date for you.
Hi All ! I am the ACO that rescued these puppies. It is not a kind thing what was done. I work with many great rescues as I am very picky, to know that they will go to a good home. Thanks to Melissa at All Dogs Heaven for doing me this honor. It is an everyday job for me. Its a win win situation with all the lives I save.
Unbelieveable

Chillicothe, OH

#80 Jun 20, 2012
Has anyone ever seen "Demolition Man"? with Westly Snipes and Sandra Bullock... There is a part in the movie, that says, "People have to have a license to have CHILDREN...Which is a great idea... I love animals.. and children, but the laws protect the animals more then they do children... I've seen it...Just sayin'
Maple Resident

Berea, OH

#81 Jun 21, 2012
Sandy Mannino ACO Maple wrote:
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Hi All ! I am the ACO that rescued these puppies. It is not a kind thing what was done. I work with many great rescues as I am very picky, to know that they will go to a good home. Thanks to Melissa at All Dogs Heaven for doing me this honor. It is an everyday job for me. Its a win win situation with all the lives I save.
My hat's off to you, Sandy. I have two dogs of my own and if I had more room, I'd have a couple more, just because I love dogs and would want to give them a home.

It's hard to believe that people could be so cruel as to just throw some pups into a dumpster or abandon them in the woods. With all the shelters around, what's so hard of taking them to one? They'd have a way better chance of finding homes that way.

More jail time is needed for the so called people that abandon these dogs and cats. Boy, you steal a loaf of bread from a store and get a few months in jail. A loaf of bread is what....$1.50 on average? What's a life worth?

PS, My two dogs are from shelters and out the parks I meet a lot of people who also have dogs from shelters. So, the dog owners seem to out number the ones that abandon them but we need to eliminate the ones who are cruel to animals!!!!!
Wrong is WRONG

United States

#82 Jun 30, 2012
Nomad wrote:
.......they are only dogs! yea its evil putting them in a dumpster but no human should suffer for it!
THE FU$$ THEY SHOULDNT
I got 2 dogz

Berea, OH

#84 Jul 29, 2012
Nomad wrote:
.......they are only dogs! yea its evil putting them in a dumpster but no human should suffer for it!
Well I say find the a-hole that put the dogs in the dumpster and toss the guy in a dumpster so he can see what it's like. Maybe you could join him, Gonad.
Rin Tin Tin

Berea, OH

#85 Jul 30, 2012
Shame on the terrible person who dumped puppies in the garbage! Shame on you!

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