Is Jack back? Sheriff candidate Rivero wants to bring back undershe...

There are 230 comments on the Lake County Record-Bee story from Jul 7, 2010, titled Is Jack back? Sheriff candidate Rivero wants to bring back undershe.... In it, Lake County Record-Bee reports that:

If elected Sheriff, Francisco Rivero would like to bring back the position of undersheriff and asked Jack Baxter to fill those shoes.

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Rivero is thinking ahead

Hidden Valley Lake, CA

#23 Jul 8, 2010
while Mitchell sits and complains about not having enough money to pay for an undersheriff with a 27 million dollar budget.

How much money would Mitchell(our county) have saved on administrative leave cost, BOS and staff investigation cost, legal defense cost, and judgement cost for Perdock, Grozoli, Beland, Morshed, Write, Smith, and Dinius, to name a recent few if Mitchell had a strong second in command willing to hold a mirror up to his stupidity and not just kiss his a##? He is too arrogant to have an undersheriff and we are paying the price.
news

Fremont, CA

#24 Jul 8, 2010
essay wrote:
So like two-thirds of this article was Baxter's opinion? Wow, and he's not even running any more. I did enjoy reading his neutrality of not naming a candidate he endorses (unless you read between the lines at his not very subtle statements).
As far as Rivero trying to get Baxter's voters: duh. That's what candidates do, it's normal politics that you try to expand your base to increase your own votes. It's like when a presidential candidate picks his vp from a different region or ideology - so more votes can be obtained to win. I don't see it as "slimy". Also, perhaps Rivero sees more eye-to-eye with Baxter and would like his help in reforming the Sherrif's Department, which I imagine will be quite a task.
Baxter displayed poorly concealed partisanship by writing ""I believe our Sheriff's Office needs a new face..." and "I have come to the determination that only one is willing to entertain change and actually listen to new ideas." I thought Baxter was above this. But as it shows, he is nothing more than another city boy who is well out of touch with the needs of lake county residents.
facts are still the same

Clearlake, CA

#26 Jul 8, 2010
Facts are still the same Rivero can't even pass the Sargent's exam, he sued the city of San Fran while he was a MORTICIAN. He was only an officer for a few years and has no real experience
. Then he comes to lake county, gets a job in sheriffs dept, can't pass the exam for Sargent, and yet wants to be sheriff.
Are you people that stupid. Would you hire someone that doesn't read or write to run your own business?
If that is not enough proof of his slim ball activity, he brings that whore Dimus's attorney and Dan Nunes the reporter who for years has bad mouth Lake County as a slum to the Bay Area public to help campaign for him.
Look Mitchell MAY not be a choir boy, and he may have not made the write choices in the Dimus, Perdock case but overall he has done a great job at keeping us safe. Crime is down, he is doing things with the budget he has. If you want to help the department then start by running out the drug addicts, dealers and worthless people that won't work and contribute to society.'THE TAKERS" Fix up your homes that you use for rentals get higher rents and stop being slum lords renting to these dirt bags.
ARE WE SO STUPID THAT YOU CAN'T READ BETWEEN THE LINES TO SEE RIVERO IS TRYING TO BUY VOTES BY USING BAXTER. AT LEAST MITCHEL IS STANDING HIS GROUND, AND IS A MAN OF CONVICTION.
COME ON LAKE COUNTY WAKE UP. USE YOUR BRAINS BEFORE YOU FALL FOR RIVERO'S BULLSH--.......
lakeviewer

United States

#27 Jul 8, 2010
Rivero good luck wrote:
Interesting article but what is the benefit of this position being brought back? I did ask and was told that they are the one who takes the heat for the sheriff or his fall guy. Not sure about that but it sure seems like a good idea for Rivero to get those who had voted for Baxter. It's a cleaver move. Wish him luck in the upcoming election!
A good leader builds a strong leadership team - Rivero is absolutely right to be thinking about how best to do that. The undersheriff is not a fall guy - he or she help run day to day operations. Only a bad leader would use the undersheriff as a fall guy (like Mitchell). I hope when Rivero is elected Baxter will come on board. He's both a law enforcement officer and an eductor - and, he's one class act.

Baxter ran on change and so did Rivero. Mitchell did not - he ran on the status quo. Nobody with any sense of fairness and decency wants more of that. I certainly don't.

“Used to be"Just Wondering"”

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#28 Jul 8, 2010
Donna Christopher wrote:
Being inclusive is a good idea. Getting back our undersheriff is a great idea! I think we traded our last one in for an APC ;).
Rod - "you better start swimming or you'll sink like a stone; for the times they are a changin'". Seriously - who the hell IS your campaign manager?
Donna,

APC's don't leak information, don't talk back and love you unconditionaly even if you leave them in the parking lot
reneeee

AOL

#29 Jul 8, 2010
I'm not concerned about Rivero getting Baxter on his side. They are both "equally" interested in allowing the marijuana to be the major "cash" crop of Lake County.
Bringing an undesirable associated crime into our "safer" County.
I don't say we are safe entirely but to posibility of featuring marijuna as the signature of Lake County is bad for all of us.
I've recently heard that the price of marijuana "if" legalized would go from the $300 rd's per ounce (or pound, I'm not a user so I don't know how much it cost's) in any event that cost would go to less than $40. comparitively. The "cash" crop might be less a threat if infact it is legalized?

Getting back to the subject, Rivero/Jack are pandering to the potential negative influence in our Beautiful County therefore I wouldn't consider voting for either of them. I love my County, I want it to thrive in a positive rather than a negative. We have something here in this County that few Counties can offer. It's a rare jewel, a beautiful environment, a beautiful seclusion from outside influences. When people come to Lake County few are on there way to anywhere else. They intend to be coming to Lake County, not just driving through. We can make it the best place to live by our thoughtful control.
I'm not excited about voting Mitchell, I wish we had other choices.
lakeviewer

United States

#31 Jul 8, 2010
facts are still the same wrote:
Facts are still the same Rivero can't even pass the Sargent's exam, he sued the city of San Fran while he was a MORTICIAN. He was only an officer for a few years and has no real experience
. Then he comes to lake county, gets a job in sheriffs dept, can't pass the exam for Sargent, and yet wants to be sheriff.
Are you people that stupid. Would you hire someone that doesn't read or write to run your own business?
If that is not enough proof of his slim ball activity, he brings that **** Dimus's attorney and Dan Nunes the reporter who for years has bad mouth Lake County as a slum to the Bay Area public to help campaign for him.
Look Mitchell MAY not be a choir boy, and he may have not made the write choices in the Dimus, Perdock case but overall he has done a great job at keeping us safe. Crime is down, he is doing things with the budget he has. If you want to help the department then start by running out the drug addicts, dealers and worthless people that won't work and contribute to society.'THE TAKERS" Fix up your homes that you use for rentals get higher rents and stop being slum lords renting to these dirt bags.
ARE WE SO STUPID THAT YOU CAN'T READ BETWEEN THE LINES TO SEE RIVERO IS TRYING TO BUY VOTES BY USING BAXTER. AT LEAST MITCHEL IS STANDING HIS GROUND, AND IS A MAN OF CONVICTION.
COME ON LAKE COUNTY WAKE UP. USE YOUR BRAINS BEFORE YOU FALL FOR RIVERO'S BULLSH--.......
Just have to say - do you really think the "ground" Mitchell stands on is rarified? Look at the atrocious decisions he's made just in the last 3 - 4 years. The only ones we know about for certain are the ones that hit the press - but come on, it's Lake County and rumors abound - not only about Mitchell but some of his top cops. The example being set for deputies is sad and inexcusable. Mitchell's played fast and loose with his power - he has abused it and it's time the voters held him accountable. Sixteen years and more of the same - you can't honeslty believe that's a good thing.
Best of the worst choice

Clearlake, CA

#32 Jul 8, 2010
Renee is correct. Mitchell is a better choice. Baxter was on San Jose PD for 38 years I think and he did not make it to sargent, what does that say about the man? Either he does not want to aspire higher up the ladder or he isn't smart enough to pass the test? Either one is not good for this county and to be in such a position to be running a department like the sheriffs office.
Neither Rivero or Baxter ever made it passed being a hired officer. Is that the experience you want for a sheriff. This is the highest office in the county for law enforcement.

Better think before you vote.
Lakevierer

Clearlake, CA

#33 Jul 8, 2010
I can say that what I wrote are facts...If we have deputys that make mistakes,'ie drunk driving in middletown" That is not mitchell doing the driving a private citizen on the police dept.

If you want better deputys we the people need to be able to pay more for that job and stop being a training ground for all the other counties. But since we have more slime balls living in this county that don't work and just complain that won't be happening anytime soon. Before Mitchell took office we had a much hirer crime rate. He has done a good job overall. Yes he has made mistakes, but who has not. At least we know what we now have, Mitchell may not be perfect, but at least he is not promising thinks he can't do.
I have lived here over 30 years, I seen the change in this county. It is not for the good. People are moving into this county that are very undisireable from the Bay Area. The quality of housing is more run down and therefor lower rents to drug addicts. We are building more low rent housing bring in more unemployed or welfare people. More pot retail stores on every corner bring in more dope. And on top of that we turn away businesses LOWE'S and now Piedmont and Konocti. We are a dying county.
Ask Rod Mitchell about a fact sheet on crime from the dept of justice. You will see crime has gone down. FACTS are FACTS. Rivero is a BS artist. Baxter wants to collect another pension.
curious

Ukiah, CA

#34 Jul 8, 2010
The position is not allocated at this time, so Rivero can promise the voters everything. He says he wants Jack Baxter as his Undersheriff. Rivero can't make that request until after he is elected, then it still has to be approved and funded by the BOS. What guarantee does Rivero have that this is a done deal? Rivero complains about Mitchell and his political 'stunts' but this is an ovious one as well. Rivero needs Baxter's supporters to win. Offer Baxter a job, that doesn't exist, and maybe Baxter's supporters will vote for Rivero.

I agree with the other poster that thinks this is an admission by Rivero that he is not up to being Sheriff and he needs a fall guy.
Two Way Street

Sunnyvale, CA

#35 Jul 8, 2010
Mitchell is running scared and the mud slinging has begun anew. I sure hope Becky doesn't over tax herself multiblogging under assumed names!

Who would you like to see the next Sheriff have as their closest advisor? Rivero is looking to Baxter who is educated and teaches University classes on law enforcement, and has 38 years of real big time Dept experience.
Mitchell is still looking for another GOB that will cover for him like GOB Perdock did for so many years.

Rod has continued to state he will change nothing about how he has run the LC Sheriff's Dept. Other Than throwing a few token expendable former GOB's under the bus what will be different? The very definition of stupid is doing the same thing that doesn't work over and over and hoping for a different outcome. I don't plan on being stupid and voting Mitchell. How about you all??
Mountain Breeze

United States

#36 Jul 8, 2010
Motor Mouth wrote:
I was asked recently what made anyone think Baxter was qualified to be under sheriff if he was in law enforcement for 38 years and never made it past sergeant. I then had to wonder what makes anyone think Rivero is qualified to become sheriff if he hasn't even made sergeant after multiple attempts.
Let's not forget that Mr. Mitchell was a Sergeant when he took office as Sheriff.
Lets cut to the chase

San Jose, CA

#37 Jul 8, 2010
As usual with an article like this the bantering will be full force. Mitchell and his supporters having seen the last nail hammered into his coffin, will now attempt to scramble with damage control. Even bringing out Cromm77 to throw barbs. Looking past all the goo gaa, the facts are quite easy to discern. Now I know people will say oh you can't say that yet a lot could happen etc etc. and that is all fine.
But lets cut to the chase. Baxter is on board full tilt, it is a bit of dancing going on by Jack, very typical but if you read the hard slam he put on Mitchell in the article you know the truth of the matter. Done deal. Now what will Mitchell and his boys do. They will scramble, they will put up fake posts saying boy now I know I will vote for Mitchell. They will do whatever they can to deflect the significance of this news. But alas it will be to no avail.
Now as far as Farrington's comments and the funding. Screw him he has no play in this and just got in the headlines because of his "connection" to Mandy. It will get funded there is a thousand ways to accomplish it, and frankly the BOS will not have much to say about it except to rubber stamp the change.
So there you have it in a nutshell, Mitchell supporters will whine and cry, Mitchell will now have to change his game plan, it will not work. Hate to shut down the totality of the bantering, but in a sentence bring on November, Mitchell check with PORAC and see what your retirement will be in January.
political observer

Ukiah, CA

#38 Jul 8, 2010
Funny that over on the love/hate blog they are proclaiming that Rivero has picked Baxter to be his Undersheriff. This is the same group that has been belittling Baxter since he entered the race, the same ones that said he is too old. They also have said in the past that Baxter is a Mitchell stooge. Now they are saying Baxter is great.Says a bunch to me!
Lakeman

United States

#39 Jul 8, 2010
How can Mitchell state is extremely hard to make such a position. I've seen him do away with the Captain and Lieutenant's positions, make Chief Deputy positions and than turn around and recreate the Captain and Lieutenants positions. If he can do all this, why can't Frank make a single Undersheriff position?

What people outside of LCSO does not know is, there is one Captain position open and two of the three lieutenant positions open. The remaining only lieutenant is on leave and most like will not return.

The last lieutenant's test had only "ONE" person put in for the job. Just ONE and that was Hall. Mitchell couldn't even get his own people to apply for lieutenant.

Good work Frank, Baxter is a good choice with great experience and training (unlike Mitchell).
Lakeman

United States

#40 Jul 8, 2010
Mountain Breeze wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's not forget that Mr. Mitchell was a Sergeant when he took office as Sheriff.
Baxter also has more education than Mitchell. Mitchell supervised just 4 deputies as a sergeant, but Baxter supervised an entire section including the Burglary Investigations Unit. Baxter is also currently an instructor at the police academy and even his family life is better than Mitchell.
To political observer

San Jose, CA

#41 Jul 8, 2010
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa wipe the tears away. Move on the gig is up!
Interesting

Milpitas, CA

#42 Jul 8, 2010
Sorry I have to disagree with you here. I too have lived in this county since the 70's. This county has only caught up to what should have been done for the indigent many years ago. As far as people coming up from the Bay Area, take a look around. They are diversed! there have been many whom have moved here to a much smaller, quieter life style in order to get out of the rat race. Every town big or small will get its fair share of trouble! Of course every human makes mistakes. We would have hoped for Mitchell to correct those that he has made over the years, but has shown no concern in doing so. Rivero and Baxter compliment each other in their thinking. What Rivero has lacked throughout his campaign, baxter has shown otherwise and visa versa. Its not a ploy in trying to sway baxter voters over to Rivero, that is politics!
Lakevierer wrote:
I can say that what I wrote are facts...If we have deputys that make mistakes,'ie drunk driving in middletown" That is not mitchell doing the driving a private citizen on the police dept.
If you want better deputys we the people need to be able to pay more for that job and stop being a training ground for all the other counties. But since we have more slime balls living in this county that don't work and just complain that won't be happening anytime soon. Before Mitchell took office we had a much hirer crime rate. He has done a good job overall. Yes he has made mistakes, but who has not. At least we know what we now have, Mitchell may not be perfect, but at least he is not promising thinks he can't do.
I have lived here over 30 years, I seen the change in this county. It is not for the good. People are moving into this county that are very undisireable from the Bay Area. The quality of housing is more run down and therefor lower rents to drug addicts. We are building more low rent housing bring in more unemployed or welfare people. More pot retail stores on every corner bring in more dope. And on top of that we turn away businesses LOWE'S and now Piedmont and Konocti. We are a dying county.
Ask Rod Mitchell about a fact sheet on crime from the dept of justice. You will see crime has gone down. FACTS are FACTS. Rivero is a **** artist. Baxter wants to collect another pension.
Interesting

Milpitas, CA

#43 Jul 8, 2010
Rivero didn't need the votes for the primary and he certainly won't need them for the Nov elections. Its pretty much a given those that voted for Baxter feel the need for change. Rodney isn't willing to budge on this one so those votes more than likely will go to Rivero! Why would baxter voters sway over to Rodney when the man they voted for stresses that the LCSO needs a overhaul. That there is no leadership or chain of command. It's just that simple :)
Marzocco

Livermore, CA

#44 Jul 8, 2010
news wrote:
<quoted text>Baxter displayed poorly concealed partisanship by writing ""I believe our Sheriff's Office needs a new face..." and "I have come to the determination that only one is willing to entertain change and actually listen to new ideas." I thought Baxter was above this. But as it shows, he is nothing more than another city boy who is well out of touch with the needs of lake county residents.
Baxter ran AGAINST Mitchell so it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand his comments. Also I don't understand why people are so surprised, as if this is the first time a defeated candidate has thrown his support behind another one. It has been going on since the first humans decided to elect their leaders.
And the people that voted for Baxter will have to decide for themselves who is the best candidate based not on comments but facts.

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