Venue opens amid restrictions

Venue opens amid restrictions

There are 43 comments on the Lake County Record-Bee story from Dec 29, 2009, titled Venue opens amid restrictions. In it, Lake County Record-Bee reports that:

CLEARLAKE Silk's Bar and Grill has opened on Lakeshore Drive in Clearlake, although not under the terms owner Andre Williams would have liked.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Lake County Record-Bee.

First Prev
of 3
Next Last
Richard Hertz

Clearlake, CA

#1 Dec 30, 2009
I can see another businessman taking his potential tax revenue and employment opportunities "over the hill." Is this another feather for the GOB cap?
Jim Hall

United States

#2 Dec 30, 2009
This is total BS, and ABC has over step their reason for being. In doing any business, a level playing field is essential, and once again, it highlights the unfair practices that are promoted by state departments in dealing with big city/big box operations regulations being forced on start up and small businesses in small communities. Local state Representatives and local elected officials, need to step forward and use there power to correct this situation, fast. This seems like a major small business investment for the Clearlake area, operated by proven businessmen, a great idea, and needs to be encouraged, not discouraged from doing business in the area.

Clearlake has local law enforcement that as part of there job and why there get paid, is to see that current laws are being followed and if not to take action to make sure they are. They don't need rules that penalize the business owners, by forcing costs for doing business so high that failure is just a given. In this type of business, the owners must be creative, using programs within the law, to attract there clients. Mario's was a great entertainment location, is located in a commercial area and needs to be allowed to make a LEGAL profit, PERIOD.
Why

Kelseyville, CA

#3 Dec 30, 2009
Unfortunate. Seems Mr. Williams has a great game plan. Why was this new venue restricted to where it can't really operate? Nothing has changed for Lake County in many many years, hard to believe it'll be 2010, no growth. This venue could have attracted tourism, and employeed locals. Rediculous.
amature

Berkeley, CA

#4 Dec 30, 2009
Wow - MC Hammer!
geevo

Oakland, CA

#6 Dec 30, 2009
So what is the substantial evidence that was supplied by the CPD to the ABC that makes this location such a high risk environment, other than being located in the City of Clearlake? How many other bar/restaurants have live music, happy hour, and are required to employ security guards on site in the city limits? This seems highly prejudicial and discriminitory unless the ABC and CPD can provide good reason. Any bar makes the job of law enforcement more difficult and demanding, but it also makes the proprietor responsible to keep a good place where things don't get out of control. Sounds like the owners were being proactive in planning for rides home, so what's the big problem here? And no breakfast? What's wrong with feeding folks who've been drinking and dancing?
GoodbyeSweetAmer ica

Waterloo, IA

#7 Dec 30, 2009
More over extension of an out of control Government, simply sickening!!
Flake County

Santa Cruz, CA

#9 Dec 30, 2009
amature wrote:
Wow - MC Hammer!
Uh....yeah. Wow.
What a tired old retread if he's trying to Headline at "Silks" in Clearlake.

Bwahhaaaahhaaaaa!

Since: Feb 09

Clearlake

#10 Dec 30, 2009
I would make a guess that the restrictions have some thing to do with problems at his now closed Andres BBQ.
ilovemusic

Oakland, CA

#11 Dec 30, 2009
geevo wrote:
So what is the substantial evidence that was supplied by the CPD to the ABC that makes this location such a high risk environment, other than being located in the City of Clearlake? How many other bar/restaurants have live music, happy hour, and are required to employ security guards on site in the city limits? This seems highly prejudicial and discriminitory unless the ABC and CPD can provide good reason. Any bar makes the job of law enforcement more difficult and demanding, but it also makes the proprietor responsible to keep a good place where things don't get out of control. Sounds like the owners were being proactive in planning for rides home, so what's the big problem here? And no breakfast? What's wrong with feeding folks who've been drinking and dancing?
Appears all evidence is against the previous owner of establishment - has certainly nothing to do with Mr. Williams new business. City officials are well aware of Mr. Williams problems with Chief of Police actions, this has been documented at a couple city council meetings already.

One councilmember tired to get Mr. Williams concerns put on public agenda which has fell on deaf ears of city administrator. City administrator said not a chance...matter was between Chief and Mr. Williams to work out. Don't count on city officals to retify discriminatory restrictions or even give Mr. Williams opportunity to make his case in public before entire City Council.

Police Chief unfairly targeted Mr. Williams business as a problem before he even open. How can you hold new owner responsible for what previous owner did? Chief of Police has stated on at least one occasion - No local bars dinning facilities in Clearlake should have ever been issued a ABC license where music, dancing, karoke form of entertainment be allowed... I guess Chief isn't familar with how resort business communities make their living and serve the community. I guess we don't get chance to explain our culural diversities through the arts and entertainment...huh! Perhaps Chief should have went to work in Utah where there is prohibition.
ilovemusic

Oakland, CA

#12 Dec 30, 2009
N Scale Lake wrote:
I would make a guess that the restrictions have some thing to do with problems at his now closed Andres BBQ.
What problems at the BBQ business?
Now back east

Dawsonville, GA

#13 Dec 30, 2009
Wait a second...Didnt Hammes fail in his attempt at Reflections Bar before too? The "Rumor" and I deliberately use the quotation around that word, is that it was a failed business attempt with Hammes before. As for CLPD, the men on that police force should welcome the opportunity to have more places to drink and pick up their beat wives. They are by far the most corrupt law enforcement agency in the county. Now...on the other hand, Lake County needs a legitimate business that provides jobs and in a better direction then alcohol. There are too many businesses in the county that are local watering holes, its as though rather then create something worthwhile, business owners just want to drown peoples sorrows.
Dave F

Waterloo, IA

#14 Dec 30, 2009
Andre Williams is and always has been a class act. It is unconscionable that the city of Clearlake would take steps to thwart a much needed venue by blaming Williams for the past deeds of others. I sincerely doubt that Williams nor his partner are going to risk their investment, which I'm sure has been considerable, by allowing anything to get out of hand inside or outside their establishment. I would welcome a decent place to take guests to listen to music something we now don't have in this county. If there is ever a public hearing on this issue I'll be the first at the podium supporting him.
WHY

Kelseyville, CA

#15 Dec 30, 2009
geevo wrote:
So what is the substantial evidence that was supplied by the CPD to the ABC that makes this location such a high risk environment, other than being located in the City of Clearlake? How many other bar/restaurants have live music, happy hour, and are required to employ security guards on site in the city limits? This seems highly prejudicial and discriminitory unless the ABC and CPD can provide good reason. Any bar makes the job of law enforcement more difficult and demanding, but it also makes the proprietor responsible to keep a good place where things don't get out of control. Sounds like the owners were being proactive in planning for rides home, so what's the big problem here? And no breakfast? What's wrong with feeding folks who've been drinking and dancing?
Planning for rides home for patrons that shouldn't drive was very responsible smart idea. Less drunks on the road, easier for local LE, and offering breakfast would've been fantastic. Makes one wonder what the "problem" is with local LE halting this venture?? Sad.
fed up

Clearlake, CA

#16 Dec 30, 2009
oh but keep Lotowanas open that is a rat feast and security officers on site unreal
Blendshare

Springfield, MO

#17 Dec 30, 2009
When you consider that these are the same entities crafting the local Medical Marijuana Laws, it all begins to make sense, in that it makes no sense at all, except for the opportunity to be a bully.
stops on progress

Lucerne, CA

#18 Dec 30, 2009
Any wonder why there is nothing in Clearlake?? They city makes it impossible for anyone to open a business. Seems the motto for Clearlake should be,"ONE STEP BACWARDS."
Jim Hall

United States

#19 Dec 30, 2009
WHY wrote:
<quoted text>Planning for rides home for patrons that shouldn't drive was very responsible smart idea. Less drunks on the road, easier for local LE, and offering breakfast would've been fantastic. Makes one wonder what the "problem" is with local LE halting this venture?? Sad.
A WARNING TO THE WISE. This issue is truly something that the business community needs to get active with, as when one business is in this position, they may win a few battles, but, the power of even this small towns government will win the WAR. They will use the power of there different departments to wear down any business that stands up to them, unless that business has the backing and strength of the business and citizens standing up for them from the get go. They will use the Health Depart., Police, Building and Fire departments to break a single business, if they so desire. Those have been the weapons of the GOOD OLD BOY system for years. The facts and truth about any statement the powers to be make, need to DOUBLE CHECKED, as twisting the truth is not something they have not done in the past also.
Whitewolf

United States

#20 Dec 30, 2009
Insane, are you kidding i agree with Jim Hall it is the good old boys club, and they have to be stopped just not in the city of Clear lake,but the whole county including the LCOE and the corruption in the Schools and School Boards, they all police themselves one gets in trouble they have another to back them up and try to get them out of trouble, i am just sickened by this. I am from the Bay Area, and yes they have made it impossible for anyone to come in putting up road blocks for everyone. No wonder no one wants to come here, when you hear people talk about Clear Lake in the Bay they think that we are all hicks and trash, and this is not true, the fact is they are pulling the race card. Andre wipe the floor with these people show them just what you are made of. 2010 what a joke it is no different than the 1960's. They are all in bed together.
Donna Christopher

Kelseyville, CA

#21 Dec 30, 2009
Sounds like the powers that be are intent on making Clearlake a 'dry town'.
This is NUTZ

Alameda, CA

#22 Dec 30, 2009
The restrictions that the city have put on Silk's are unbelieveable! I have been a resident of Lake County for 7 years now and every year there seems to be less and less businesses open and doing well... It is sad that our community is allowing such a devistating thing happen. Mr. Williams is trying to do a great thing for this community by offering services we do not already have. As far as I am concerned I would feel much safer going to Silk's Bar and Grill than to Lotowana Bar which is nestled in the middle of a trailer Park full of MEGAN'S LAW OFFENDERS! No joke....

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker
First Prev
of 3
Next Last

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Lakeport Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News Officers deny they taught profiling (Dec '09) Jul 19 xXxMemelordxXx 98
News Shasta Lake search continues (Aug '06) Jul 14 JMichael Kues 6
News Sheriff Mitchell, Supervisors consider legal' e... (Mar '08) Jun '16 Provocateur 90
News Sierra Club files suit against Cristallago deve... (Apr '10) Jun '16 Provocateur 25
News Lake County sheriff cuts off agencies' access t... (Apr '13) Jun '16 Provocateur 19
News Woman dies in driveway (Jul '11) Jun '16 Debbabb 4
News Views and News: Nationalization of retirement (Aug '10) Jun '16 Bern one for obammy 136

Lakeport Jobs

More from around the web

Personal Finance

Lakeport Mortgages