California Proposition 19: the Mariju...

California Proposition 19: the Marijuana Legalization Initiative

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Since: Sep 07

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#10965 Jun 12, 2012
Katt wrote:
its like drinking and driving so you cant smoke and drive if it was approved to be legal
nobody is saying that you can't do it in your own home.

the problem here is these drug addicts want to be able to use illicit drugs anywhere, and at any time as they so please.

they feel that it is their right to smoke it in front of other peoples faces whether those people like it or not.

they feel that they should be allowed to smoke the stuff while driving.

and frankly, I won't agree to that.

when you hear them - the drug addicts - rant about needing all illicit drugs be made legal, the uncaring mentality that they have towards others is obvious.

you hear some of them say that they will respect the rights of others. but we all know how that turned out in amsterdam. it doesn't work. and so amsterdam is putting more restrictions on it.
Mike

San Diego, CA

#10966 Jun 12, 2012
Come downtown on a Saturday night sometime and how much the alcohol drinkers respect the rights of others.
Ronald

Long Beach, CA

#10968 Jun 12, 2012
Provocateur wrote:
Cannabis sativa has been used for medicinal purposes for over 4,800 years and has been prescribed for over 250 illnesses and diseases, for example: Asthma, insomnia, often used to treat pain in childbirth, anxiety, migraines, glaucoma, used for patients with AIDS, and THC pills allow cancer patients to find an appetite. Medicinal Marijuana relieves anorexia in Alzheimer's patients, it relieves mental health and mood disorders, and it can be used as suppositories for relieving the pain of hemorrhoids which the Ancient Egyptians practiced for centuries, along with gastrointestinal disorders, and pains. Medicinal Marijuana, or hemp seed oil, has been used to treat inflammation, and was the primary treatment for headaches until they invented aspirin. In fact, back when my dad was a kid the most commonly used pain reliever before it was replaced by aspirin was called APC, or All Purpose Capsule. APC contained an ingredient called Marinol which is extracted from the marijuana plant.
Provocateur.

I agree. That is nonsense. There is no such thing as "medicinal" Marijuana. In fact, Marijuana has long been known as "the entry drug". Even so, pot is bad enough, witness the violent behavior of the pot using assassins of old.

I always warn my mind rotted zonked out pothead friends of the dangerous future that awaits them unless they end their denial and confront their Marijuana addiction. We are all familiar with the "Black" guy who started out using Marijuana and then graduated to "Bath salts". He ended up eating off most of the face, the nose, and the eyeballs of an elderly homelsss White guy.

Now Drudge has linked to an article reporting on a Bath salt using guy who stripped naked and attempted to suffer unspeakable sexual abuse on an innocent little three year old baby girl. Because the investigation is still in its preliminary stage the article does not report whether this guy began his descent into to his sadistic anti-social perverted lifestyle by first using pot - bur realistically - what are the chances? Incidentally, hard earned taxpayer money is being used to provide the guy with a high paid Government defense lawyer.

Source: http://tinyurl.com/bw7bhyn

Source: http://tinyurl.com/6nyehgy

Source: http://tinyurl.com/7apvbj7

Source: http://tinyurl.com/3eqpjtv
*(note: This otherwise excellent article contains politically correct revisionism that is apparently designed for the purpose of "making the use of pot acceptable" by distancing the use of mind destroying pot from the cult of the assassin)*

Ronald

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#10969 Jun 12, 2012
Ronald wrote:
<quoted text>
Provocateur.
I agree. That is nonsense. There is no such thing as "medicinal" Marijuana. In fact, Marijuana has long been known as "the entry drug". Even so, pot is bad enough, witness the violent behavior of the pot using assassins of old.
I always warn my mind rotted zonked out pothead friends of the dangerous future that awaits them unless they end their denial and confront their Marijuana addiction. We are all familiar with the "Black" guy who started out using Marijuana and then graduated to "Bath salts". He ended up eating off most of the face, the nose, and the eyeballs of an elderly homelsss White guy.
Now Drudge has linked to an article reporting on a Bath salt using guy who stripped naked and attempted to suffer unspeakable sexual abuse on an innocent little three year old baby girl. Because the investigation is still in its preliminary stage the article does not report whether this guy began his descent into to his sadistic anti-social perverted lifestyle by first using pot - bur realistically - what are the chances? Incidentally, hard earned taxpayer money is being used to provide the guy with a high paid Government defense lawyer.
Source: http://tinyurl.com/bw7bhyn
Source: http://tinyurl.com/6nyehgy
Source: http://tinyurl.com/7apvbj7
Source: http://tinyurl.com/3eqpjtv
*(note: This otherwise excellent article contains politically correct revisionism that is apparently designed for the purpose of "making the use of pot acceptable" by distancing the use of mind destroying pot from the cult of the assassin)*
Ronald
I heard that the black guy begun with milk, so obviously milk is the entry drug. And the use of pot for the assassin was a recompense type of use, after they obey to some criminal order. To relax them.
Cannabis is a safer alternative to alcohol, and is rather preventing the use of "dangerous drug" than everything. Then with salvia and iboga you can quit any nasty drug rather easily.

It is just a non sense to demonize an appetite.

And as medication, cannabis is miraculous, simply. Perhaps salvia and iboga too.

Legalize all drugs and tax them proportionally to their statistical harms and social costs. You will see tobacco (smoked) and alcohol will become more expensive, and ... the life insurances will pay you to smoke marijuana.

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#10970 Jun 12, 2012
Bruno24 wrote:
<quoted text>
I heard that the black guy begun with milk, so obviously milk is the entry drug. And the use of pot for the assassin was a recompense type of use, after they obey to some criminal order. To relax them.
Cannabis is a safer alternative to alcohol, and is rather preventing the use of "dangerous drug" than everything. Then with salvia and iboga you can quit any nasty drug rather easily.
It is just a non sense to demonize an appetite.
And as medication, cannabis is miraculous, simply. Perhaps salvia and iboga too.
Legalize all drugs and tax them proportionally to their statistical harms and social costs. You will see tobacco (smoked) and alcohol will become more expensive, and ... the life insurances will pay you to smoke marijuana.
there you go again advocating that ALL drugs be legalized.

obviously, you did not look at my last post on krokodil. here it is again for you to read.
http://mystoryofrecovery.com/2011/09/16/warni...

after reading it, tell me... if you still advocate legalizing all drugs.

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#10971 Jun 12, 2012
Mike wrote:
Come downtown on a Saturday night sometime and how much the alcohol drinkers respect the rights of others.
imagine what saturday nights would be like if we allowed marijuana smokers to drive and smoke their pot? the problem with dui would increase for sure.
TheBarber

Santa Cruz, CA

#10973 Jun 12, 2012
Asian Guy wrote:
<quoted text>imagine what saturday nights would be like if we allowed marijuana smokers to drive and smoke their pot? the problem with dui would increase for sure.
Son, you are dumber than a bag of hair.
Make a friend.
Read a book.
Head on down to the Woolsworth and buy the game clue and then play it a few thousand times.
My observation?
You believe instead of think.
You haven't the first idea how a federal law gets passed.
You seem to think we live in a democracy when we live in a constitutional republic.
You seem to think legal=right.
Are you aware of all the things which are illegal which people once accepted?
Slavery, marital rape, domestic servitude-kicking the holy hell out of your family, child labor, all once legal and fine now considered to be wrong.
And things in history once thought taboo are now the accepted practice. An Autopsy was heresy at one time. So was a woman wearing pants, as was divorce.
Alcohol prohibition (once the law ) was proven to be an enormous failure and was repealed. If guided by our intelligence we will eventually act in the interest of our freedoms as we usually do. But there is no argument that suitably does away with the individuals right to choose. Is that dangerous?
So what! When I am on the highway I trust the other drivers not to kill me. They are trusted with a technology that could end my life.( and if I am not mistaken, as a nation we had more causualties on our highways than in the wars we've been fighting. Is that just the cost of doing business?) In a restaurant I am trusting the kitchen staff not to screw up and poison me. Every time I let a stranger feed me or sell me something I will put in my body I am trusting them not to kill me.
I feel we should have the intelligence and dignity not to go to work on each other. We should use reason and trust to appeal to what's better in each other.
But my concern is that the invitation will be wasted for, rather than allow oneself to be challenged it is easier to say "I don't like that."
And I suspect I am addressing a person who is seeking to advance his beliefs rather than inquire intelligently and learn.
You've got a ways to go young one. Good luck on figuring it out.
If you are sincere I am sure you will be fine
Malachi Constant

Modesto, CA

#10974 Jun 12, 2012
Smelly hippies.
Ronald

Long Beach, CA

#10975 Jun 12, 2012
Bruno24 wrote:
<quoted text>
I heard that the black guy begun with milk, so obviously milk is the entry drug. And the use of pot for the assassin was a recompense type of use, after they obey to some criminal order. To relax them.
Cannabis is a safer alternative to alcohol, and is rather preventing the use of "dangerous drug" than everything. Then with salvia and iboga you can quit any nasty drug rather easily.
It is just a non sense to demonize an appetite.
And as medication, cannabis is miraculous, simply. Perhaps salvia and iboga too.
Legalize all drugs and tax them proportionally to their statistical harms and social costs. You will see tobacco (smoked) and alcohol will become more expensive, and ... the life insurances will pay you to smoke marijuana.
Bruno24.

Well, you are making the same wrongful argument the money grubbing free-spending out-of-control Homosexual and non-Homosexual California politicians and their increased taxation advocating pals in the pothead community make. Decent tobacco users smoke tobacco and decent tobacco users die. That is just as much a non-sequitur as is your milk argument.

I think you may be confusing mind rotting pot with tobacco. Whereas the pothead often incurs lifelong mental - and often as not physical - debility as a result of his pot addiction, tobacco use enhances mental acuity. In fact, decent tobacco users use tobacco as a "Big Government expensive "doctor-free" self-medicating delivery device. That is why decent tobacco users are usually of calm and collected demeanor. Contrast that with the crazed cannibalistic and outrageous sexual behavior that is typical of the pot addict.

Ronald
RiccardoFire

Sacramento, CA

#10976 Jun 12, 2012
Ronald: "crazed cannibalistic and outrageous sexual behavior that is typical of the pot addict." You did realize that the crazed cannibalistic person was on bath salts? If pot caused this sexual behavior then a lot of guys would be putting the liquid form into the coffee for their women. I see people smoke cigarettes because they are a nervous wreck without it. They smell, their skin looks aged, they smell. You have no idea who is smoking or using the liquid form of weed.
waco1954

United States

#10977 Jun 12, 2012
Texas is watching to see what California does.There is no way Texas would allow California to legalize...so half the state of Texas would spend their money there.If California legalizes....the only other state in the union with a trillion dollar economy...Texas....will legalize.If Texas and California legalize....the rest of the country will fall in line.
Ronald

Long Beach, CA

#10978 Jun 12, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
Ronald: "crazed cannibalistic and outrageous sexual behavior that is typical of the pot addict." You did realize that the crazed cannibalistic person was on bath salts? If pot caused this sexual behavior then a lot of guys would be putting the liquid form into the coffee for their women. I see people smoke cigarettes because they are a nervous wreck without it. They smell, their skin looks aged, they smell. You have no idea who is smoking or using the liquid form of weed.
RiccardoFire.

Are you a victim of Obsessive–compulsive smeller disorder, or is your interest in the smell of decent women and men who smoke tobacco purely recreational in nature? At what age did you first acquire this kinky smelling habit? Are there regional or racial differences in the smell of decent tobacco smokers? Have you ever gotten into the smelling of bus seats where a cute guy has sat, or the behinds of donkeys?

Ronald
RiccardoFire

Sacramento, CA

#10979 Jun 12, 2012
waco1954 wrote:
Texas is watching to see what California does.There is no way Texas would allow California to legalize...so half the state of Texas would spend their money there.If California legalizes....the only other state in the union with a trillion dollar economy...Texas....will legalize.If Texas and California legalize....the rest of the country will fall in line.
Why? it doesn't grow in Texas?
waco1954

United States

#10980 Jun 12, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Why? it doesn't grow in Texas?
I believe the subject was legalization.However....it grows just great in Texas.But I must point out that Georgia grows really great weed.
Provocateur

Denver, CO

#10981 Jun 12, 2012
Ronald wrote:
<quoted text>
Provocateur.
I agree.Edited for facts.
Ronald
I was wondering when your nicotine stained brain would reappear. Tell us again how tobacco smoke is good for children.

Prohibition didn't work for alcohol, either.
RiccardoFire

Sacramento, CA

#10982 Jun 12, 2012
Ronald wrote:
<quoted text>
RiccardoFire.
Are you a victim of Obsessive–compulsive smeller disorder, or is your interest in the smell of decent women and men who smoke tobacco purely recreational in nature? At what age did you first acquire this kinky smelling habit? Are there regional or racial differences in the smell of decent tobacco smokers? Have you ever gotten into the smelling of bus seats where a cute guy has sat, or the behinds of donkeys?
Ronald
i don't find women attractive that smoke tabacco. Difference of opinion shared by many. I prefer breathing clean air.
RiccardoFire

Sacramento, CA

#10983 Jun 12, 2012
waco1954 wrote:
<quoted text> I believe the subject was legalization.However....it grows just great in Texas.But I must point out that Georgia grows really great weed.
yes my point, will always be cheaper on the street.
Ronald

Long Beach, CA

#10984 Jun 12, 2012
Provocateur wrote:
<quoted text>
I was wondering when your nicotine stained brain would reappear. Tell us again how tobacco smoke is good for children.
Prohibition didn't work for alcohol, either.
Provocateur.

Yes. I agree. Whenever "everyone knows" something, one can be sure it is wrong. In the case of "tax and increased Government controll" tobacco propaganda it surely is.

Before Big Government began its war against its own people - the many millions of decent women and men who enjoy the simple pleasure of using a tobacco product - autoimmune related illnesses among children were relatively rare. As Big Government won more and more of its anti decent tobacco smoker battles, more and more hard working parents quit using tobacco simply because only "the rich" could afford to continue paying the exorbitant Big Government controlled price of tobacco - most of which is composed of wasteful taxes imposed by all levels of Big Government's taxing agencies.

Tobacco smoke has a beneficial effect on the development of strong immune systems among children. The reason is because tobacco smoke elicits an immune response, a response that is necessary for the development of healthy immune systems among growing children. In less superstitious times, moms knew this as "the dirt effect".

Because growing children are no longer exposed to beneficial tobacco smoke, autoimmune deficient ailments such as childhood Asthma have soared off the chart. Big Government responded by turning children into Guinea pigs, injecting into their frail little bodies dangerous drugs and "treatments" that are provided by Government "doctors".

Incidentally, Provocateur. Say what you want about prohibition, but despite Hollywood propaganda to the contrary, it was a fantastic success. Alcohol use plunged among Americans as a result of prohibition. Alcohol consumption among Americans never recovered to its pre-prohibition level.

Source: http://tinyurl.com/8yo2xsf

Source: http://tinyurl.com/75csfjs

Ronald
Ronald

Long Beach, CA

#10985 Jun 12, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>i don't find women attractive that smoke tabacco. Difference of opinion shared by many. I prefer breathing clean air.
RiccardoFire.

Well, you put on a good front, but if you go around smelling "smelly" *(as you put it)* decent women and men who smoke tobacco, one must question the sincerity of your professed desire to breathe "clean" air.

Ronald

Ronald
RiccardoFire

Sacramento, CA

#10986 Jun 12, 2012
Ronald wrote:
<quoted text>
RiccardoFire.
Well, you put on a good front, but if you go around smelling "smelly" *(as you put it)* decent women and men who smoke tobacco, one must question the sincerity of your professed desire to breathe "clean" air.
Ronald
Ronald
Here is what I wrote: "I see people smoke cigarettes because they are a nervous wreck without it. They smell, their skin looks aged, they smell." I never wrote "smelly". LIAR! Decent and not decent women and men smoke tobacco. I don't like to breath their stink they create. I would never want to kiss a woman that just smoked a cig.

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