Antioch Elementary Teacher Accused of Injuring Student

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Nov 19, 2012
 
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Sounds like you are getting exactly what you deserve. You are one sick cookie. Get some help.
HAHAHA, you think this antioch scumbag crap has me worried??? no, just making a point at how pathetic these BIG BAD ADULTS can be, making threats like little kids and lying when this is a forum for peoples opinions-lol-all i did was give my opinion and it started a big antioch scumbag war!!!!! big pig war, fat slob war-GROSS!!! lololol-this shit is great! actually kind of fun-got all these morons freaking out, they just can't take it-and i dont even care, thats the funny part about it, lol, say whatever your little pig hearts desire-yes i'm cold hearted, deal with it-i don't care-what is the trailer trash mob gona come get me???? i'm done even responding to all these stupid comments and lies-i go to bed at night just fine-toodles!
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Nov 19, 2012
 
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Jackie I can see exactly what the poster is doing and it appears they got you to see how it feels. wwhether some of it's true or all of it is true or none of it is true, NO ONE cares. Everyone can say what they want I just choose not to because it's the best entertainment that has come across this thread in quite some time. It's going to be a must see battle when this wraps up. Let me know what both of you decide to do because I want to bring my video camera....
LOL, I get what you're saying, and yes this crap is crazy drama, it actually has me laughing over here-it is very entertaining-and yes people can post whatever they want, some true, some not, the only thing I know is that, I guess people got pretty mad when I shared my opinion and experience I had with the kid-but whatever, who cares, this is not even a big deal to me-I just hope that the REAL truth comes out with this whole incident-no one wants a child to get abused in any way, and no one wants to see a teachers rep get shit on by false accusations either-I guess we'll just have to wait and see
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Nov 19, 2012
 
I have reserved the right on speaking up in this matter for 6 days until this appeared in the thread. I had lived in this town since childhood and my children now grown are paying very close attention to this issue that is quietly being discussed amongst those of us who have been there and still live there that have experienced the changes that have transpired over the years.Where are the real adults that should have come to this poor child's defense and attacked the person who is representing our town in that manner? I will explain something and hope all of you may bring yourselves to understand. I speak for a significantly large group of us that still remain in these parts of the woods and if you adhere to what I'm going to say it could potentially change the way things we know it today for the better. It has been years in the waits that some of us waited for a man like that child's father to surface. You should rally with this young man and his family instead of making a conclusion and deciding to seal his families fate. I was having lunch at the Golden Ochs quite some time ago and made a promise to a close friend of mine that worked at Pickard China and to this day I intend in to keep it. This is where I suggest any of you that may not want to admit change is necessary to stop reading. Although I still get the occasional letter's from my close friends asking me if I miss home and if want to come back, it would be selfish of me to even consider it the way things are turning for the worse. It kills me more and more when each day passes that a town where my children played, laughed, worked and graduated has become filled with many different walks of life and insubordinate leaders that now you can't even sleep with your doors unlocked. What happened to the times when Superintendent Kakaeck would come over for dinner and address any matters occurring in his schools or when we had the likes of Superintendent Meyer that tried to rally the board and the community to explore options for a grant when the vote for the new elementary school was voted down? Days when our community gathered and anticipated Honors Day that had awards such as Salutatorian, Valedictorian, Star Reporter and Science Awards. My children were proud to say they were friends with the students who received the Presidents Pin and the United Nation Certificates. Those days are long gone. Community bonds and support for one another is no where in existence any more. This is why my heart has become empty and an old man's tears flow when I read and hear about something like this situation at the school and then the events and words that have followed. Earlier I mentioned this young man surfacing in this town that we want to once again call home and I can hope if there are any other families like the few of you that I know remain that you understand he is the voice that has gotten peoples attention be. The issue within our schools is only going to get worse if they don't put an end to it now and I'm not referring to this one incident. 20 years and no one said anything, 20 fucking years and this man gets upset because his daughter was grasped to hard and you all act like this? How many more predators are we going to turn a blind eye to? Those of you that choose to keep turning a blind eye or think its not important enough to address, should let those that care about the future step in and take the reigns. The teacher at light here is a quality educator and installs discipline and mannerism into children that need it. There are some that thought her method was rather unique. Some thought she was rather overwhelming. You fellas need to give Scotty and Dorothy a call and have them come fix something that has been deliberately broken under because no one will say they are lazy. Shame on YOU!!! Shame on all of you in this forum. Edith Palenske is watching all of you. There are a lot of you that may remember her. She at least was someone I trusted and called a friend.
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Nov 19, 2012
 
I have reserved the right on speaking up in this matter for 6 days until this appeared in the thread. I had lived in this town since childhood and my children now grown are paying very close attention to this issue that is quietly being discussed amongst those of us who have been there and still live there that have experienced the changes that have transpired over the years.Where are the real adults that should have come to this poor child's defense and attacked the person who is representing our town in that manner? I will explain something and hope all of you may bring yourselves to understand. I speak for a significantly large group of us that still remain in these parts of the woods and if you adhere to what I'm going to say it could potentially change the way things we know it today for the better. It has been years in the waits that some of us waited for a man like that child's father to surface. You should rally with this young man and his family instead of making a conclusion and deciding to seal his families fate. I was having lunch at the Golden Ochs quite some time ago and made a promise to a close friend of mine that worked at Pickard China and to this day I intend in to keep it. This is where I suggest any of you that may not want to admit change is necessary to stop reading. Although I still get the occasional letter's from my close friends asking me if I miss home and if want to come back, it would be selfish of me to even consider it the way things are turning for the worse. It kills me more and more when each day passes that a town where my children played, laughed, worked and graduated has become filled with many different walks of life and insubordinate leaders that now you can't even sleep with your doors unlocked. What happened to the times when Superintendent Kakaeck would come over for dinner and address any matters occurring in his schools or when we had the likes of Superintendent Meyer that tried to rally the board and the community to explore options for a grant when the vote for the new elementary school was voted down? Days when our community gathered and anticipated Honors Day that had awards such as Salutatorian, Valedictorian, Star Reporter and Science Awards. My children were proud to say they were friends with the students who received the Presidents Pin and the United Nation Certificates. Those days are long gone. Community bonds and support for one another is no where in existence any more. This is why my heart has become empty and an old man's tears flow when I read and hear about something like this situation at the school and then the events and words that have followed. Earlier I mentioned this young man surfacing in this town that we want to once again call home and I can hope if there are any other families like the few of you that I know remain that you understand he is the voice that has gotten peoples attention be. The issue within our schools is only going to get worse if they don't put an end to it now and I'm not referring to this one incident.
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#114
Nov 19, 2012
 
20 years and no one said anything, 20 fucking years and this man gets upset because his daughter was grasped to hard and you all act like this? How many more predators are we going to turn a blind eye to? Those of you that choose to keep turning a blind eye or think its not important enough to address, should let those that care about the future step in and take the reigns. The teacher at light here is a quality educator and installs discipline and mannerism into children that need it. There are some that thought her method was rather unique. Some thought she was rather overwhelming. You fellas need to give Scotty and Dorothy a call and have them come fix something that has been deliberately broken under because no one will say they are lazy. Shame on YOU!!! Shame on all of you in this forum. Edith Palenske is watching all of you. There are a lot of you who have knowledge of her name. She at least was someone I trusted as a friend.
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Nov 19, 2012
 
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And bla bla bla bla bla bla bla-I really don't care what ANY! of you shit talking idiot TWITS! have to say or think you know or whatever!!!! LOLOLOL, really, you think I give a crap??? HONESTLY??? Because I really don't-but atleast stop with the lies and making things up-LOL-for real, and if you bitches want to keep talking shit and lying about me over and over and over then AGAIN, put your real name out there and I GUARANTEE, I PROMISE YOU-I WILL BLAST EVERY LAST PIECE OF YOUR LIFE AND YOUR DIRT ALL OVER THIS M-FER and you, my friend(s), will be sorry-so get off that high horse you think you are on because you probably are not even worth a damn!!! YEP!!!! GOOD-BYE oh and lawyers? what lawyers? i hope that wasn't in reference to me because if it was, then you're an idiot-lol, again, anyone has the right to their opinion!!!! hehehe
and one other thing, every single person who knows me, really knows me, and is a friend of mine knows that I am a great parent, and person-thats why people trust me with their kids!!! get a clue you dummies
This bitch wants to talk all this shit, but shes gonna get whats coming to her for slandering a child let alone all these posts cause IP addresses for computers are easy to get now a days.
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Nov 19, 2012
 
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You are right dumb dumb, thats why the teacher is on a paid leave, and yes, I'm sure once investigated, the truth will come out, but seeing how friends and family of this kid lie, i'm not so sure-the bruises looked pretty old on her arm, chest, and upper arm to me-my childs kindergarten teacher grabbed my kids arm once for fighting over a chair with another kid-oh no! I better call the news!!!!! lol
Wow you have some serious issues women. Reverting to name calling and making fun of me or her proves this....If you paid attention to the videos or articles you would know that the child has a medical condition/illness what she shares with her father which causes her to have the dark rings around her eyes and tumors on her body. This is no laughing matter, what if this happened to your daughter/son? You would have done something its not the families fault the media was called its the police and schools so back off the family. Oh and I highly doubt its his family threatening you its probably someone who just doesn't like you.
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#117
Nov 19, 2012
 
I'm going to have to agree. The facts were brought to the forum numerous times already with the mention her father and her have NF. I went to the website and read it. You have to understand Mom 2 that some people don't want to change. It sheds a bad light on our community and if we want an example I'll point out the fact that E.S. SHOULD know better than to be known as one that rushed to judge. She is well respected in this community and the place she does her work should have kept off of this. It surely doesn't help her cause that her daughter is friends with the very opinionated poster. There it's a time and place for everything and if you want to continue go on ahead it's bed time for me.
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I don't know the family or the little girl, or the teacher, but i am curious because if this child was abused all her life by the mother why didn't the father take measures to get her protected a long time ago? Now all of a sudden she has yellow bruises all over her arm "supposedly" from a teacher and you put her on national television. Sounds kind of fishy to me. Also if the child had her winter coat on she would not have those bruises like that. SO WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?
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Wow you have some serious issues women. Reverting to name calling and making fun of me or her proves this....If you paid attention to the videos or articles you would know that the child has a medical condition/illness what she shares with her father which causes her to have the dark rings around her eyes and tumors on her body. This is no laughing matter, what if this happened to your daughter/son? You would have done something its not the families fault the media was called its the police and schools so back off the family. Oh and I highly doubt its his family threatening you its probably someone who just doesn't like you.
What does their illness have to do with the bruises on her upper arm and forearm and up on her chest? those were bruises, old bruises-i realize she has a medical condition that involves eye rings and tumors, and my child has had her arm grabbed by a teacher before, but there was a reason for it-do you think a teacher would purposely want to hurt a child, or just grab them for absolutely no apparent reason? thats nuts!! and yes, the family sent facebook messages to my sister inlaw threatening her, thinking it was me-these people are crazy, and yes, its probably the drunken old whores that live in my neighborhood who stay drunk on a regular basis to survive their own lives, that seem to be the ones attacking me on here because I said what I knew and they didnt like it-talk about cliques in antioch, well this is the mad drunken women clique who do no wrong! And just because I dont drink or go along with rubbish, im the outcast-but like i said, i could give a crap-i worry about myself and my family and friends, that is what is important to me-not this going back and forth with people because they cant handle someones opinion if it doesnt fit with their liking-and all this crap about me posing as other people, omg-let people think what they want-anyways, good night everyone!!! see you tmrw!!!
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This bitch wants to talk all this shit, but shes gonna get whats coming to her for slandering a child let alone all these posts cause IP addresses for computers are easy to get now a days.
yea, addresses sure are easy to get stalker!!! slandering ay?? I call it speaking the truth-do you know how to read???
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I think its sad that a grown adult of children is attacking another child. How would feel if this was your child? So you don't like or her family, we get it but to continue on your rave about her being a bully is funny since you are being the bully to her. No child is perfect and no child deserves to be touched by a teacher let alone anyone else, yes you are entitled to your opinion but move on and let it go. Carry and spuing that much venom towards someone only makes you look like the asshole and them only better.
Until the truth comes out its not or shouldn't be our place to judge either party and I pray thy no more lifes are ruined. But we need to show our kids love and compassion for others even if we don't like that child or parent. They learn from us.
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I think its sad that a grown adult of children is attacking another child. How would feel if this was your child? So you don't like or her family, we get it but to continue on your rave about her being a bully is funny since you are being the bully to her. No child is perfect and no child deserves to be touched by a teacher let alone anyone else, yes you are entitled to your opinion but move on and let it go. Carry and spuing that much venom towards someone only makes you look like the asshole and them only better.
Until the truth comes out its not or shouldn't be our place to judge either party and I pray thy no more lifes are ruined. But we need to show our kids love and compassion for others even if we don't like that child or parent. They learn from us.
You said it perfectly. It is a tragedy that ADULTS are behaving in this manner.

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I have reserved the right on speaking up in this matter for 6 days until this appeared in the thread. I had lived in this town since childhood and my children now grown are paying very close attention to this issue that is quietly being discussed amongst those of us who have been there and still live there that have experienced the changes that have transpired over the years.Where are the real adults that should have come to this poor child's defense and attacked the person who is representing our town in that manner? I will explain something and hope all of you may bring yourselves to understand. I speak for a significantly large group of us that still remain in these parts of the woods and if you adhere to what I'm going to say it could potentially change the way things we know it today for the better. It has been years in the waits that some of us waited for a man like that child's father to surface. You should rally with this young man and his family instead of making a conclusion and deciding to seal his families fate. I was having lunch at the Golden Ochs quite some time ago and made a promise to a close friend of mine that worked at Pickard China and to this day I intend in to keep it. This is where I suggest any of you that may not want to admit change is necessary to stop reading. Although I still get the occasional letter's from my close friends asking me if I miss home and if want to come back, it would be selfish of me to even consider it the way things are turning for the worse. It kills me more and more when each day passes that a town where my children played, laughed, worked and graduated has become filled with many different walks of life and insubordinate leaders that now you can't even sleep with your doors unlocked. What happened to the times when Superintendent Kakaeck would come over for dinner and address any matters occurring in his schools or when we had the likes of Superintendent Meyer that tried to rally the board and the community to explore options for a grant when the vote for the new elementary school was voted down? Days when our community gathered and anticipated Honors Day that had awards such as Salutatorian, Valedictorian, Star Reporter and Science Awards. My children were proud to say they were friends with the students who received the Presidents Pin and the United Nation Certificates. Those days are long gone. Community bonds and support for one another is no where in existence any more. This is why my heart has become empty and an old man's tears flow when I read and hear about something like this situation at the school and then the events and words that have followed. Earlier I mentioned this young man surfacing in this town that we want to once again call home and I can hope if there are any other families like the few of you that I know remain that you understand he is the voice that has gotten peoples attention be. The issue within our schools is only going to get worse if they don't put an end to it now and I'm not referring to this one incident. 20 years and no one said anything, 20 fucking years and this man gets upset because his daughter was grasped to hard and you all act like this? How many more predators are we going to turn a blind eye to? Those of you that choose to keep turning a blind eye or think its not important enough to address, should let those that care about the future step in and take the reigns. The teacher at light here is a quality educator and installs discipline and mannerism into children that need it. There are some that thought her method was rather unique. Some thought she was rather overwhelming.
Welcome to the 21st century. Your dream world no longer exists.
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yea, addresses sure are easy to get stalker!!! slandering ay?? I call it speaking the truth-do you know how to read???
And Jackie is still going on about cafe au lait spots that she claims are old bruises. You sound more and more ignorant every time you post. Play the video and tell us at what frame you see bruises. I just don't get it, you keep slandering the dad now saying he abuses his daughter? I'm telling you Jackie that you need to stop. You can portray him all you want off of this forum. I understand that you think your all big and bad and will " put all of someones shit on here " as you said before. I'm telling you to do a little research about the person. You are in way over your head Jackie. Why can't you just leave it alone ?
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yea, addresses sure are easy to get stalker!!! slandering ay?? I call it speaking the truth-do you know how to read???
I don't understand why you continue to lie. You do drink and you do drugs. Those are facts. As for your comment above your speaking nothing. If these are old bruises I'm sure this investigation would have been over a long time ago . You do know DCFS was at they're house right? Maybe Vince should direct them your way since you continue to allege he abuses his child. I agree with previous poster in reference to you being in over your head..
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We've always known this teacher to be kind and nurturing.
Do you think her disorder could have played a role in the bruising? Did you see her neck in the tv reports? It's a shame that this teachers career and reputation can forever be tarnished. I find it odd that a child obviously tramautized, based on history presented in the interviews, is being exploited by her father.

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Has anyone heard if the investigation is completed? You would think it would be wrapping up. I think it is very sad that people are calling each other out here, lets stay on topic, and slamming each other. I am sure everyone on this forum has something they are not proud of in their life, keep it to yourself!
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I guess there's an update to what we've all been waiting for. From my knowledge of the way the law works it doesn't get referred to the States Attorney unless there is sufficient evidence to bring a criminal charge. I wonder how long it will take the District to give them hush/recant money? I'm willing to put my money on them saying " although the evidence in the case may point to a potential misunderstanding between the student, teacher and parent, there is not enough evidence to bring a charge of abuse against the teacher. It should also be noted that parent awareness is beneficial to keeping schools informed of potential misconduct by it's educators. While this incident has caused a great deal of controversy within the community it should also be noted the parent took the action deemed necessary to bring this matter to light. Going forward, we find that neither parent, school nor the district at fault and we close this case accordingly".

Now, if this is the conclusion would we be content with this? I'm sure if this is the way its going to end that a lot of us will still have some unanswered questions. If the father refuses to speak on the matter I can only assume they paid this family to quietly go away. There's no way after all the attention and hostility this has generated there wouldn't be charges of a false complaint. In the same aspect it will lead to the theory that maybe there was a slight lack of judgment on the teachers behalf.

With that being said I hope everyone on here also tries to get the father to justify his course of action. Wonder if they are going to gag him in the aftermath..
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I guess there's an update to what we've all been waiting for. From my knowledge of the way the law works it doesn't get referred to the States Attorney unless there is sufficient evidence to bring a criminal charge. I wonder how long it will take the District to give them hush/recant money? I'm willing to put my money on them saying " although the evidence in the case may point to a potential misunderstanding between the student, teacher and parent, there is not enough evidence to bring a charge of abuse against the teacher. It should also be noted that parent awareness is beneficial to keeping schools informed of potential misconduct by it's educators. While this incident has caused a great deal of controversy within the community it should also be noted the parent took the action deemed necessary to bring this matter to light. Going forward, we find that neither parent, school nor the district at fault and we close this case accordingly".
Now, if this is the conclusion would we be content with this? I'm sure if this is the way its going to end that a lot of us will still have some unanswered questions. If the father refuses to speak on the matter I can only assume they paid this family to quietly go away. There's no way after all the attention and hostility this has generated there wouldn't be charges of a false complaint. In the same aspect it will lead to the theory that maybe there was a slight lack of judgment on the teachers behalf.
With that being said I hope everyone on here also tries to get the father to justify his course of action. Wonder if they are going to gag him in the aftermath..
I have also noticed the teacher in questions name has suddenly disappeared from a previous post...
You would think the rookies at the pd would immediately charge the father at least for being ugly. If he and his daughter have that disease everyone is talking about I'm going to make sure my kids and parents kids don't go anywhere near them. Gross. Everyone wonders why there is always skepticism about how police investigate. Here's a prime example where our tax dollars are going. This should be a strong reminder of who we have calling shots around here. I would have been more content if CS would of handled it by himself then we would have had an outcome that all of us wanted 5 days ago.

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