One arrested, two injured in Round La...

One arrested, two injured in Round Lake High School brawl

There are 160 comments on the The News-Sun story from Oct 5, 2006, titled One arrested, two injured in Round Lake High School brawl. In it, The News-Sun reports that:

Extra police patrols were highly visible Wednesday at Round Lake High School following a suspected gang fight Tuesday in the school that ended with two juveniles injured and another student arrested and sent to ...

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anonymous resident

United States

#1 Oct 5, 2006
I have read this article and the one in the daily herald. I went to this school when I was younger and now I have younger family members who go to the school. When I went to roundlake H.S. it was bad. I seen fights almost every day. In the lunchrooms, in the gyms, and in the hallways. And that was over 10 years ago. Now I hear stories everyday from mine and the neighborhood kids about fights, and gangs. They say its a safe school but i've heard stories of kids beating each other with locks, and I knew one kid who got stabbed with scissors. I also here stories about the teachers swearing at kids and smoking weed
with them after school, and taking sides with kids they like and making it hard for kids they don't like. I personally think this school should be investigated. I think the teachers are trying to cover things up to cover their own reputations. It's
really sad because a lot of money is going into building new houses and roads and into the city, but
what they really needs to be done is build up another school and get new teachers and better security, cause everyday its just getting worse and the kids are the ones who are suffering. We don't need knew houses we need better schools and staff. I know there are some good teachers there but only a handful. please Investigate this school. Maybe put cameras in the hallways and the classrooms.
Concerned Student

United States

#2 Oct 5, 2006
I go to Round Lake School now and honestly it is not a safe school. I see a fight like everyday. People use more then their fists. They use locks,books, and even scissors whatever they can we need metal detectors.I read this article and the one in the daily herald and they are both not true. Round Lake High is not safe at all. Yeah we got security guards but not enough and if they were concerned about safety they would add metal detectors no matter the costs. We are talking about peoples lives. Those kids that got hit with the pipe could have been killed. I believe the story should be rewritten and told truthfully.It should be titled Round Lake Not So Safe.The kid should be tried as an adult for premeditated murder. regardless if he is sorry. He knew what he was doing. Also, if we had metal detectors that would have never happened.So it's partly the schools fault.Cameras should be in every hall and every class maybe some undercover security guards....whatever measures that need to be taken, should.It's not fair that people have to go to school and wonder if their going to get hurt in any way.Just because we haven't had a Colombine incident doesn't mean it can't happen.I believe that this incident should be looked at more closely.What no one saw him carrying a pipe around or seen him take it out??? Someone had to have known or have seen the boy with the pipe....I think it may have been gang related, but it's still no excuse to hit another to and try to harm them.This is very serious and should be taken seriously.The school is not all it's cracked up to be.It scares me to think that if someone doesn't like me or thinks I talked about them that it could happen to me.It's really starting to get out of control at round lake high.Something needs to be done.We can't let this just go away and act like it never happened.
Stop blaming others

United States

#3 Oct 7, 2006
I have 2 children in Round Lake high school. They go to school everyday, do what they need to do, and have good grades. The administration is wonderful and the teachers are fantastic! I see the first two comments are blaming the school district for what happened the other day. It is not the school districts fault... I believe the problem starts at home. If some of the uneducated and illegal parents would take a look at what is really going on inside of their homes, they would be able to stop the majority of the problem. Geez... maybe keep an eye on their kids or ground them once in a while. Teach them to do the right thing instead of encouraging it. Half of the parents are known gang members too! Children learn what they live! So quit being so pathetic and stop blaming other for things that should really should be taken care of by these punk-ass teenager's parents.
Concerned Parent

Lake In The Hills, IL

#4 Oct 7, 2006
I have a child that goes to RLH and I have to agree with all the coments that ppl wrote, except that i don't think it is a good school, I fell that the Deans, and most of the staff are on a big power trip. They need to worry more about teaching our kids. As the one coment said no one saw him bring this pipe into the school, I find that hard to belive. Another issuse that is on my mind is all the discimanation that goes on in that school i have seen it first hand. Someone needs to take a hard look at this school, And get to the root of the problem before something like this or worse happens, i want to feel that my child is safe when i send him to school and i don't feel that way....
Just Me

Lombard, IL

#5 Oct 7, 2006
The only person making any sense here is "stop blaming others". I also went to RLHS. I received a good education there and did something positive with my life after high school. The students causing the problems both then and now are those that are not taught how to behave and respect the rules and laws of society in their own homes. Their parents do not have a clue how to control these thugs, yet everyone expects the school to know how to do it. When I was a student, most of their parents spent their evenings in a bottle and let their children do whatever they wanted to as long as they left them alone.

Let's put things in the right perspective -- Why did this young man's parents allow him to go to school carrying a pipe? Aren't they the first line of defense? Is it "ok" to say that they didn't know what was going on but the school should have? Do they even look at what he wears to school, how he is performing academically, and who he hangs around with? Did they teach him that criminal behavior like hitting someone with a pipe is wrong and he shouldn't do it?

Schools can't be made safe as long as there are families that do not have any respect for rules of the society and who do take their personal responsibility for making sure their young men and women are being raised to be good, law-abiding citizens. Until that happens good kids are going to get the short end of the stick educationally as the majority of resources are poured into controlling bullies and thugs.
frmr stdnt now parent

Gurnee, IL

#6 Oct 9, 2006
The easiest thing for all to do is place blame. But who is taking the bold step to help these students? If the parents are not taking responsibility for their own children and the school officials are not putting in the extra efforts to save a few souls, and all we are doing is chatting with each other and doing our own part to throw some blame around, when is it going to end?
The unfortuante reality is that unless someone steps in and starts some major redirection, this is never going to end. It's probably fair to assume that 90% of the students who are involved with these crimes are minorities. The culture in their homes will never be "our" societies ideal. Round Lake has been many years in the making, another Waukegan.
Where are the motivators? Where are the caring individuals who will take their chances and single out these mis-guided students to show them someone does care?
As a parent, I moved my children in to a better school district. This was my responsibility.
As a citizen, we need to put the message out there.
Is the level of violence wrong? YES! Is the school unsafe? Absolutely!
But lets remember something, if you don't have guidance, you have fear. If you have fear, you live defensively.
Just Me

Lombard, IL

#7 Oct 9, 2006
From what I have heard, at RLHS there are 20-30 students that are a threat to others in some way, either because they are capable of perpetuating these acts of violence, or because they will follow whoever starts something.

Everyone knows who they are and what they are capable of, but how do you intervene when there is no self-motivation to change, when there is no belief that being a violent thug is wrong and when there is no help from their parents, the most influential people in their lives?

Everything in their world reinforces their belief that being this way is going to get them what they want because it often does achieve the short-term results. As adults, we know that short-term gratification is only part of the equation, but you know as well as I do, that telling a teenager that you sometimes have to delay short-term gratification for a larger goal is a very difficult thing to do especially when you are feeling the "power" of what you are doing.
Still living in RL

United States

#8 Oct 9, 2006
Its funny how all the people who aren't living in round lake are making comments that its not a bad school but the parents fault. Newsflash, you are not living here I still am. Yeah it is the parents fault to for letting their kids do what ever they want, but they were at school when it happened so it is the schools responsibility to make sure stuff like this doesn't happen. Dear tx. A lot has changed in roundlake in just a few years. "A Lot". From my experience still living here I can tell all of you that this whole town is a bad place to live and if I could get out of here I would. I heard in Europe that cameras in schools and on every corner has cut crime in some areas by almost 90 percent. That would
be a blessing here. I feel sorry for anyones kids being raised here. And yes this community does need some federal attention. So please if you don't live here now and don't know whats going on, then please keep your opinions about our schools to your self because your comments are only hurting people by drawing needed attention from our schools and community. Thank you.
EX-ROUND LAKE GANG MEMBER

Chicago, IL

#9 Oct 10, 2006
I use to be a gang member in Round Lake for many years and I tell you what you can't tell kids that gangs are bad when you haven't experinced the gang life yourself.I graduated from the gangoutreach program many years ago and I tell you what it works even if you touch one student that's one less gang member on the streets.Round Lake has it's own gangoutreach program and I tell you what you guys need to support them and push for them to do a gang awarness assembly for the parents and students.
www. gangoutreach.com

Everyone sit's here and points the finger wich to me is funny cause you have no idea what your talking about your concerned now lol

When we were in school several years back in Round lake High the gang problem was worse it's awlays been there.We had a rumble in the school after an assembly one time 15-20 students fighting over street colors the problems always been there so don't act as if all of a sudden gangs are here.
I seen one idiot put something about illegal parents lmao dumb ass people there's as many white gang members as there is blacks and hispanics so don't try and come at us with that.

www.gangoutreach.com real ex gangmembers real people who have lived and breathed the gang life and now have changed for the better!
student

United States

#10 Oct 10, 2006
i know theres been gangs around forever but what happened shouldnt have. the whole thing is our school is NOT safe and if you don't attend the school then you have no idea. A girl was jumped today because she was bisexual.That is very wrong today we had 3 fights and it keeps getting worse. I know someone who went there about 10 years ago and was stabbed with a pair of scissors.Now it's getting worse and yes of course it's alot of gang problems but i will take the email address and bring it to school.The whole problem is parents just dont care anymore and either does the school.If everyone cared then how could stuff happen.and yes its not just one race in gangs its many.Half the parents dont even try to talk to their children or their school. It's hard to go to school and wonder if your going to get beat up and i know from past experience.I was jump almost everyday of my 7-8 and 9th grade year and yeah it was scary thinking that i was gonna get it the next day. all the schools did was suspend the kid which I think is bullshit because how could you trust someone to come back and not fight? RLH Deans usaully just suspend the kid and when the kid comes back they are fighting again and its sickening because they could have prevented it.Don't suspend the kids expell them then they wouldnt want to fight at school because theyd worry about failing and not gradueting staying an extra year, and yeah ive been in many fights and alot of times i got hurt real bad.nowadays its just getting worse people actully think of ways to hurt others.the whole thing with the gangs i just dont get it.what you cant fight your own battles you need someone to help you?? well thats unfair what ever happened to one on one? yeah fights have been around forever but things change and the problems are escalating,we need to do something to help get threw these types of things.and the kid who no1 saw bring the pipe to school deserves a very long sentence it was premeditated murder and i dont think he should have bail.....the whole thing is bullshit
student

United States

#11 Oct 10, 2006
Stop blaming others wrote:
I have 2 children in Round Lake high school. They go to school everyday, do what they need to do, and have good grades. The administration is wonderful and the teachers are fantastic! I see the first two comments are blaming the school district for what happened the other day. It is not the school districts fault... I believe the problem starts at home. If some of the uneducated and illegal parents would take a look at what is really going on inside of their homes, they would be able to stop the majority of the problem. Geez... maybe keep an eye on their kids or ground them once in a while. Teach them to do the right thing instead of encouraging it. Half of the parents are known gang members too! Children learn what they live! So quit being so pathetic and stop blaming other for things that should really should be taken care of by these punk-ass teenager's parents.
i think your wrong and its bullshit yeah there are a few good kids but its not easy was jumped plenty of times and i get good grades and get along with everyone your the pathic one acting all big and mighty your not so fuck you and everything you have to say
Just Me

Lombard, IL

#12 Oct 11, 2006
I live in Round Lake. I have no idea why it puts that I live someplace else when I post. Yours location says "United States" which could be anywhere.
Just Me

Lombard, IL

#13 Oct 11, 2006
student wrote:
<quoted text>i think your wrong and its bullshit yeah there are a few good kids but its not easy was jumped plenty of times and i get good grades and get along with everyone your the pathic one acting all big and mighty your not so fuck you and everything you have to say
I hope you do get good grades and continue to rise above these circumstances. You seem intelligent enough to stay out of trouble and know right from wrong and I wish you the best, but please respect differences of opinion without resorting to foul language. You will find that your ideas will be better accepted if you are more understanding of others.
student

Lake Villa, IL

#14 Oct 11, 2006
Just Me wrote:
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I hope you do get good grades and continue to rise above these circumstances. You seem intelligent enough to stay out of trouble and know right from wrong and I wish you the best, but please respect differences of opinion without resorting to foul language. You will find that your ideas will be better accepted if you are more understanding of others.
i get str8 a's and i live in rl and go to school here theres been so many problems in the school not known to the public like yesterday 3 fights today 2 and theres more to come and i know it and i think your wrong for saying somethings that you did its not a safe school people get bullied and pushed around and many students try and tell but the deans dont listen or they make it worse by confronting the other student and it makes them mad and they just fight the person anyways.its very unsafe and most the students agree with me and i believe if you dont go to school there then you have no idea whats going on....and you cant say you dont so please keep your comments about the school alone because i have to live this life and go to the high school and take it from me its not safe
Just Me

Lombard, IL

#15 Oct 12, 2006
What I wonder is what your parents and the parents of the other kids that believe the school is unsafe are doing. Nothing is going to change if no one stands up for what is right and forces the administration to change. What it takes is a group of parents going to the school board meetings with their children and telling the stories directly to the school board then asking them "what are you going to do about this?" Then you go back the next month and say "have you done anything about this yet?"

The administration is pressured to NOT suspend students because it makes the school "look bad" when the suspension rates are reported. The only way to change that is to put public pressure and it is usually the parents of the good kids that never say anything. You can be sure that parents of the bad kids will make sure they get their rights so why aren't the parents of the good kids making sure their kids have a right to a non-violent education?

I just don't happen to think nothing can be done. I think that people might think it is too hard or too much trouble, but they still should try. If you are willing to keep things the way they are, then do nothing.
student wrote:
<quoted text>i get str8 a's and i live in rl and go to school here theres been so many problems in the school not known to the public like yesterday 3 fights today 2 and theres more to come and i know it and i think your wrong for saying somethings that you did its not a safe school people get bullied and pushed around and many students try and tell but the deans dont listen or they make it worse by confronting the other student and it makes them mad and they just fight the person anyways.its very unsafe and most the students agree with me and i believe if you dont go to school there then you have no idea whats going on....and you cant say you dont so please keep your comments about the school alone because i have to live this life and go to the high school and take it from me its not safe
glad i left

AOL

#16 Nov 11, 2006
i used to live in round lake it is more than the school it sarts with the mom and dads and goes right to the police that do not a thing unless it is a speeding ticket or a father who finds out his daughter is being fondled by her grand dad if round lake want change i beleave it will be very hard til you do something from the top down take the one who want to fight and put them in jail and let the one who want to learn stay and i dont mean just the ones in school get rid of your trash round lake yours truely glad i left
Nellie of the North

United States

#17 Nov 12, 2006
glad i left wrote:
i used to live in round lake it is more than the school it sarts with the mom and dads and goes right to the police that do not a thing unless it is a speeding ticket or a father who finds out his daughter is being fondled by her grand dad if round lake want change i beleave it will be very hard til you do something from the top down take the one who want to fight and put them in jail and let the one who want to learn stay and i dont mean just the ones in school get rid of your trash round lake yours truely glad i left
I hope this isn't indicative of the quality of education you are receiving or have received whether in Round Lake or elsewhere.
Flake Town KK

United States

#18 Nov 12, 2006
I seen the fight. the news takes shit too far
student

Lake Villa, IL

#19 Nov 13, 2006
Flake Town KK wrote:
I seen the fight. the news takes shit too far
i seen the fight also and it is true that our school is unsafe no matter how bad the news makes it look it is bad for the fact that it could actully happen
marine

Springfield, IL

#20 Nov 14, 2006
i went to r.l. most of my family went to r.l. look i am mexican n i will tell u that the first thing that happens when u put that many beaners together is fights, its actually embarrissing since they aren't fighting for anything worth fighting for. Parents don't seem to be that tough on kids anymore as for these little punk gang bangers i say fu-ck them just one gang sign up thrown by them should call for immediate suspension of at least 1 month let the little fuc-kers flunck n be laughed at.

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