New Mexico politics: Teague explains why he voted against healt...

U.S. Rep. Harry Teague, D-N.M., said Friday he was respecting the wishes of the majority of those in the 2nd congressional district when he voted against the health-care reform bill, which narrowly passed the House on Nov.

[Border Native-American]

Voting against Obama Health Care Reform was the right thing to do. It isn't about Americans health, it's about politics and power to the detriment of our country. My children thank you Harry.

[check out]

I think Walter meant to say: "Teague also angered many "pro-choice" Democrats by voting for the Stupak-Pitts amendment..."

[Las Cruces 1977]

Cannot understand why Harry Teague won't turn healthcare into another part of life where the customer service is about the same level as the post office and department of motor vehicles. Doesn't he see that the "public option" is a dream come true? Jeeez! Let's get out our signs and protest! Maybe we can get Pelosi to show up and spread some of her.......um.....wisdom.

[Last Chance]

Notice that Teague has no statistics to support the idea that his district opposes health care reform. He just has his experience with a small group of active and very vocal opponents of reform. Is there a lesson here for folks that want to change his mind?

Frankly I don't know how this guy thinks he can ever get re-elected. The right wingers he is kissing up to will never support him. The lefties are never going to forgive him.

Worst of all, his misunderstanding of the Stupak-Pitts amendment leads credence to the charge from the right wing that Congress doesn't even know what they are voting on. What a schmuck.

[Tyler]

check out wrote:

I think Walter meant to say: "Teague also angered many "pro-choice" Democrats by voting for the Stupak-Pitts amendment..."

Thats what I'm thinking too. I had to reread that sentence a few times.
As for our district not supporting the bill, I'm unsure. I know Teague was an idiot when he voted for the cap & trade B.S., but this, I would've guessed many supported this (horrible) bill.

This vote was definitely motivated by politics (re: him screwing up and voting FOR cap & trade)

[Billy]

I think Walter meant to say: "Teague also angered many "pro-choice" Democrats by voting for the Stupak-Pitts amendment..

Why would anyone want the taxpayer to pay for abortions? Or for that matter the insurance companies. Thanks for the job you are doing for us Harry. We have enough
government intervention in our lives.

[Boston]

I wonder if Bill McCamley would have stood up to the Dems. Like Gary has? WTG Harry!

[Boston]

meant like Harry has, WTG Harry!

[THX 1138]

Harry must think we're stupid. He claims that this bill didn't do enough to bring down costs so he voted against it. An imperfect health reform bill is better than no bill at all!!! The insurance industry is sticking it to us and the politicians who vote against reform are lubing us up for it. If this reform bill gets voted out, be prepared to bend over and take it up the pooper! Thanks Harry!

[Thomas F Schraad]

THX 1138 wrote:

The insurance industry is sticking it to us and the politicians who vote against reform are lubing us up for it.

If your insurance company is sticking it to you, then cancel your policy. There is no law that says you are "mandated" to have insurance. I just don't understand why people like you do business with people that you believe are scr*wing you.

[oldnavy2001]

Last Chance wrote:

Notice that Teague has no statistics to support the idea that his district opposes health care reform. He just has his experience with a small group of active and very vocal opponents of reform. Is there a lesson here for folks that want to change his mind?
Frankly I don't know how this guy thinks he can ever get re-elected. The right wingers he is kissing up to will never support him. The lefties are never going to forgive him.
Worst of all, his misunderstanding of the Stupak-Pitts amendment leads credence to the charge from the right wing that Congress doesn't even know what they are voting on. What a schmuck.

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Then I guess the less vocal need to get out there and share their opinions.

The squeaky wheel got the grease in this case.

Regardless, the House bill is horrible legislation as written. Yes, we need reform, but NOT at the risk of one-sixth of the nation's economy

[THX 1138]

Thomas F Schraad wrote:

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If your insurance company is sticking it to you, then cancel your policy. There is no law that says you are "mandated" to have insurance. I just don't understand why people like you do business with people that you believe are scr*wing you.

You're as dumb as Teague. All of the insurance companies are sticking it to all of us. Every politician out there agrees that reform is needed, they just disagree on how to achieve that reform. If you work for a large employer and they have group insurance, and you don't like the insurance company, you can't just drop them and get your own...it'd cost twice as much because your employer wouldn't pick up a percentage of the premium. The insurance companies arbitrarily raise the rates and lower the coverage because they know they've got you over a barrel. I don't understand people like you who protect insurance companies that are screwing everybody over just because your leaders are getting paid to protect them.

[THX 1138]

oldnavy2001 wrote:

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Then I guess the less vocal need to get out there and share their opinions.
The squeaky wheel got the grease in this case.
Regardless, the House bill is horrible legislation as written. Yes, we need reform, but NOT at the risk of one-sixth of the nation's economy

If the GOP and Dems had entered the negotiations with REAL compromises, then a better bill with real compromises probably would have been written. But they're all playing their little political game of 'your side against my side'. The Republicans had a majority in Congress for 12 years with a Republican president for 6 of those years, they could have passed anything they wanted in that time, but they didn't. And now, instead of getting on the boat and trying to pass real legislation, they're playing the obstructionist role...of course the Dems aren't going to try to please someone who isn't even going to vote for the bill, why compromise?

[Thomas F Schraad]

THX 1138 wrote:

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If you work for a large employer and they have group insurance, and you don't like the insurance company, you can't just drop them and get your own...it'd cost twice as much because your employer wouldn't pick up a percentage of the premium.

Yes you can. Is it mandatory that you take your employers insurance plan? Didn't think so. So then you are free to have no insurance which will make you happy. Be happy and save your employer some money.

I also think that if your employer is paying for your health insurance, you should pay income taxes on this benefit. Why should you get tax free insurance and I have to pay for my insurance after taxes?

THX 1138 wrote:

I don't understand people like you who protect insurance companies that are screwing everybody over just because your leaders are getting paid to protect them.

Whose is protecting them. I buy insurance because I want the coverage. I am happy with my insurance companies. They are in business to make a profit and they can hire people to work for them creating jobs. Sounds like a good program.

[PlacitasRoy]

Thomas F Schraad wrote:

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If your insurance company is sticking it to you, then cancel your policy. There is no law that says you are "mandated" to have insurance. I just don't understand why people like you do business with people that you believe are scr*wing you.

If you have a preexisting condition you CANNOT - with any sense of responsiblity to your family or society cancel your coverage. That is the position way too many prople are in....including both my wife and I.

I just don't understand why people like you FAIL to see reality of the FAILED health Insurance system that FORCES responsible people to do business with people that are scr*wing them.

[jimbob]

PlacitasRoy wrote:

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If you have a preexisting condition you CANNOT - with any sense of responsiblity to your family or society cancel your coverage. That is the position way too many prople are in....including both my wife and I.
I just don't understand why people like you FAIL to see reality of the FAILED health Insurance system that FORCES responsible people to do business with people that are scr*wing them.

"If you have a preexisting condition you CANNOT - with any sense of responsiblity to your family or society cancel your coverage."

PlacitassRoy, if you had any sense of responsiblity to society, you would not be wanting society to pick up the cost of your health care. Also, neither you nor Pelosi have yet to explain just how much cheaper government health care insurance will be than the present insurance costs. Are you not concerned that you will be nothing more than a leech on society if some or most of your health insurance is provided by someone else? It might even be a Republican that subsidizes your cost. After you let your neice go bankrupt because you disagreed with her political views, you'd be one big-arsed hypocrite if you accepted help from one of another ideology other than yours.

[one hundred]

Last Chance wrote:

Notice that Teague has no statistics to support the idea that his district opposes health care reform. He just has his experience with a small group of active and very vocal opponents of reform. Is there a lesson here for folks that want to change his mind?
Frankly I don't know how this guy thinks he can ever get re-elected. The right wingers he is kissing up to will never support him. The lefties are never going to forgive him.
Worst of all, his misunderstanding of the Stupak-Pitts amendment leads credence to the charge from the right wing that Congress doesn't even know what they are voting on. What a schmuck.

For every one speaking there are 100 that want to that do not so I do think he is right.

[jimbob]

PlacitasRoy wrote:

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If you have a preexisting condition you CANNOT - with any sense of responsiblity to your family or society cancel your coverage. That is the position way too many prople are in....including both my wife and I.
I just don't understand why people like you FAIL to see reality of the FAILED health Insurance system that FORCES responsible people to do business with people that are scr*wing them.

"I just don't understand why people like you FAIL to see reality of the FAILED health Insurance system that FORCES responsible people to do business with people that are scr*wing them."

PlacitassRoy, politicians "skrew" us every time we turn around, but yet you want to put your health care in their hands.

[THX 1138]

Thomas F Schraad wrote:

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Yes you can. Is it mandatory that you take your employers insurance plan? Didn't think so. So then you are free to have no insurance which will make you happy. Be happy and save your employer some money.
I also think that if your employer is paying for your health insurance, you should pay income taxes on this benefit. Why should you get tax free insurance and I have to pay for my insurance after taxes?
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Whose is protecting them. I buy insurance because I want the coverage. I am happy with my insurance companies. They are in business to make a profit and they can hire people to work for them creating jobs. Sounds like a good program.

People don't buy insurance because they want to, they buy it because they need to. And the insurance companies are taking advantage of that need. Just like the credit card companies could screw you over by arbitrarily raising rates...on money you already owe them! You could use your credit card at a %10 rate, only to have the credit card company raise the rate on the money you already borrowed to %25 if they want to. Credit card reform was needed, and Obama already took care of that. Health care reform is needed, and Obama is taking care of that too. Next will be immigration reform. And all the other problems that the Republicans never took care of when they were in power.

[THX 1138]

one hundred wrote:

<quoted text>For every one speaking there are 100 that want to that do not so I do think he is right.

All those people that were angrily speaking out were doing so out of ignorance of what was to be in the health care reform bill. They were fired up by distortions, exaggerations, and outright lies put forth by those that are in the insurance industries pockets...and Harry Teague is too cowardly to set them straight. Instead of bowing to an angry mob that was stoked up by the likes of Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh, he should have given us the facts and educated people to what was really in the bill and what was a lie.