I Pay My Dues

O Fallon, MO

#1 Jul 11, 2011
Hello LSL friends.

Over the past year or two there has been an effort by a group of mostly older residents known as "The Watchers" or "Concerned Citizens" to make it possible for those who live in the Community Association, but who do not pay their annual $450 assessment, to have the right to vote about CA activities or efforts. Many LSL residents were very much against this effort. For that reason, you all might find this article interesting. Not only do many CA's not allow "Assessment Deadbeats" to not vote, but it is actually standard practice to foreclose on their property.

I would support the Lake St. Louis CA going after these folks in punitive ways, just the way you get a tax lien filed on your home and it is sold on the county courthouse if you don't pay your taxes.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/national/article...
SandyR

Wentzville, MO

#2 Jul 11, 2011
I'm glad you linked that article for everyone to read. It helps to understand what a CA has the ability to do.

The articel said many have served as behavior police. It may as well had called the CA an illegal governing body. The examples sure fit the methods of Nazi Germany. Glad you pointed out the CA and your beliefs in this way. It helps to understand the thinking and the need for reform.
Watchers

Lake Saint Louis, MO

#3 Sep 19, 2011
So the BOD decided to send ballots to the 300 CA Members who had their rights suspended due to non-payment of dues.

Looks like another case of Jerry Knott and the three other Watchers on the BOD making decisions in secret meetings. AND not listening to the will of the majority of members. Didn't we just vote on this issue with the last version of the bylaws vote (which were written up by Slick Rick Massey)?

This is more evidence the Watchers (CLSLCM) supported candidates are guilty of much more than previous BOD members.
LSL Eastsider

Wentzville, MO

#4 Sep 24, 2011
Well you really need to read the Bilaws and C and Rs then you would realize the mistake you made about who can vote and who can't. READ READ READ these and understand what they mean.
The new bi laws would prohibit from any one not paying received no votes PERIOD.
j powers

Wentzville, MO

#5 Sep 24, 2011
LSL Eastsider wrote:
Well you really need to read the Bilaws and C and Rs then you would realize the mistake you made about who can vote and who can't. READ READ READ these and understand what they mean.
The new bi laws would prohibit from any one not paying received no votes PERIOD.
I am not sure what you are trying to say here. Can you clarify who can vote and when , if they haven't paid their dues/
LSL eastsider

Wentzville, MO

#6 Oct 3, 2011
The by laws are clear that they allow everyone to vote regardless of the dues are not paid. The by law committee recommended that if the dues are not paid they don't get to vote. But, this change would have to also change the articles of incorporation. Jones argued that the bi law committee was charged with only recommending changes to the bi laws and C & R.
Randy

Troy, MO

#7 Dec 27, 2011
LSL eastsider wrote:
The by laws are clear that they allow everyone to vote regardless of the dues are not paid. The by law committee recommended that if the dues are not paid they don't get to vote. But, this change would have to also change the articles of incorporation. Jones argued that the bi law committee was charged with only recommending changes to the bi laws and C & R.
Then what does this mean from LSLCA website.
Article 4 Section 4. No member who is the sole or joint owner of any lot or living unit for which there was an unpaid delinquent assessment as to the date of final certification of the Master List as provided in Article XI shall be allowed to cast any vote. Delinquency on any lot or living unit by a member shall disqualify that member from casting any vote even if such member is paid up on other lots or living units.
LSL Eastsider

Lake Saint Louis, MO

#8 Dec 29, 2011
Randy I could not agree more. However you must remember the pecking order of our CA first is the Articles of Incorporation second is the Covenant and Restriction third is the Bi laws. You quote the Bi laws to which I agree that no pay no vote. But, the Articles and ithe CR doesn't prohibit a none paying member fro voting. The new bi laws and CR that will be voted on was submitted to the BOD with the statement that would prohibit anyone to cast a vote that was not current with the assessment. The committee recognized this oversight and voted to recommend this change. I know we can count on you to support the changes that should be made to benefit us all.
BTW Happy New Year
Yeah Right

Troy, MO

#9 Jan 4, 2012
CA's are stupid. If you want some to tell you what you can and can't do on the property you live on, get an apartment or rent a house.
huh

Saint Louis, MO

#10 Jan 4, 2012
Wow, I'm not surprised that Yeah Right is from Troy. That made no sense!

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