Smoking Ban Starts In Lake St. Louis Friday

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The debate over smoking bans is back in the public eye . A smoking ban starts a stay in Lake St. Full Story
Single Parent

Lake Saint Louis, MO

#41 Oct 1, 2010
Is it fair for a single non-smoking custodial parent to breathe cigarette smoke when she works at a job in a smoking establishments. Don't tell me he/she can go work somewhere else. Maybe this is place is close to home, maybe this place pays him/her enough wages to pay to keep up with him/her bills so she don't need to be on welfare (more taxes to provide welfare). Instead you are exposing this parent to smoke on his/her clothes and hair. He/She has to throw his/her work clothes in the laundry and wash her hair before even hugging his/her child when she comes home from work.
Throw the bums out

Saint Charles, MO

#42 Oct 1, 2010
Citizens of LSL ... We have the power at the polls.

They absolutely have no right to dictate their morality on us. All this liberal crap makes me sick. Who do they think they are?

Lets make the news on our terms come election time and show the St. Louis region what happens to politicians who take away our constitutional rights. To the flaming liberals who support the measure, screw you. Move to a socialist country where you can prostrate yourself before the holy government.

Vote the bums out! Every one of them.
MsV

Saint Peters, MO

#43 Oct 1, 2010
I feel like governments are going too far with this ban. I can understand establishments where the primary business is food sales. But I do have a problem with taverns, casinos, etc. Now, if you want to argue "so the children can breathe" I don't know of anyone who takes their children to taverns, casinos, etc. In Illinois it has cost revenue, not only for the State but for individual municipalites who have lost revenue. Some establishments have spent thousands of dollars to accomadate smokers, but the smaller establishments simply cannot afford to do that and have closed shop. So sorry, can't really buy your argument that there is no economic repercussions.
Disgusted

Wentzville, MO

#44 Oct 1, 2010
Just was wondering if LSL will keep selling the cigarettes so they make the money off the taxes.
Unfortunately in this communistic country I guess politicians can have their cake and eat it too. I am a smoker but I respect those around me enough not to push my habit onto them. Lets say I hate the smell of alcohol and I do, it makes me sick to my stomach to smell it. I don't go to places that have drunks and I am not asking for it to be banned that would be an infringment on drunks rights so why should this be any different. People have the right to choose where they want to go and if they don't like the establishments rules then don't go. If the country decides to ban smoking and tobacco products altogether where is the tax money they are making currently going to come from if it's illegal. I guess we'll end up taking it up the tail pipe like normal.
rich

Chesterfield, MO

#45 Oct 2, 2010
they just need to outlaw smoking period cuz obvisouly people who smoke are a dumb breed that needs outside help.
LeaveUsAlone

Saint Peters, MO

#46 Oct 2, 2010
Single Parent,

If this is a question of you simply not liking the smell of smoke on your clothes and hair, get over it. Lots of people work in jobs that leave them smelling less than pleasant. If, however, you have health concerns, then contact OSHA if you feel you are being exposed to hazards in the workplace. There are laws to protect you already, and a body in place to hear your complaint. No need to pass new laws.
Asusual

Saint Louis, MO

#47 Oct 2, 2010
palin4prez wrote:
All of St. Charles county and city needs to do this!!!! I am sick of smelling the smoke! Cigarette smoke is nasty!!!
I agree! You said it! I want to eat and walk into a restaurant without having
to smell smoke on my clothes, hair, and even my children! It stinks and is
a horrible smell! I grew up with parents who smoked. It was every where.
My clothes, room, etc. Yes they still do smoke. They do have respect for
others and will not smoke while in a restaurant. They will let others
eat without inhaling smoke with their food.They just need to ban
the smoking!!! It stinks!!

Since: Mar 10

Location: smokefree places

#48 Oct 2, 2010
Suppose I invite you over my house (which is private property, BTW) There is a known hazard there. The hazard might be broken stairs or something. You know of the hazard too. But you visit me anyway. Then you have an adverse circumstance; you fall down these stairs and break your leg. You will surely sue me. Or will you? Perhaps you feel that it is MY RIGHT to booby-trap my home in myriad ways, and as long as you, the visitor, knows of these hazards, all is OK. But is it? The reality is that, you WILL sue, in order to collect your deserved damages for "pain-and-suffering. " You see, I AM responsible for YOUR safety, as long as you are on my property. So bar owners are, in turn, responsible for the safety of their patrons. Just ask a lawyer.

Since: Mar 10

Location: smokefree places

#49 Oct 2, 2010
Throw the bums out wrote:
Citizens of LSL ... We have the power at the polls.
They absolutely have no right to dictate their morality on us. All this liberal crap makes me sick. Who do they think they are?
Lets make the news on our terms come election time and show the St. Louis region what happens to politicians who take away our constitutional rights.
um...there is no "constitutional right" to smoke. Especially when you are harming and poisoning others.
Throw the bums out wrote:
To the flaming liberals who support the measure, screw you. Move to a socialist country where you can prostrate yourself before the holy government.
Do you even know what "socialism" is? I will guarantee it is NOT what you think.(It has nothing to do with "government")

Since: Mar 10

Location: smokefree places

#50 Oct 2, 2010
Single Parent wrote:
Is it fair for a single non-smoking custodial parent to breathe cigarette smoke when she works at a job in a smoking establishments. Don't tell me he/she can go work somewhere else. Maybe this is place is close to home, maybe this place pays him/her enough wages to pay to keep up with him/her bills so she don't need to be on welfare (more taxes to provide welfare). Instead you are exposing this parent to smoke on his/her clothes and hair. He/She has to throw his/her work clothes in the laundry and wash her hair before even hugging his/her child when she comes home from work.
Agreed.
And when the worker has acquired years of seniority, they should not have to forfeit all of that which took years to earn. Just because some addict wants to suck on something that looks like a freakin tampon...
LeaveUsAlone

Troy, MO

#51 Oct 2, 2010
WhoOwnsTheAir wrote:
<quoted text>
Agreed.
And when the worker has acquired years of seniority, they should not have to forfeit all of that which took years to earn. Just because some addict wants to suck on something that looks like a freakin tampon...
First of all, the person that owns the building owns the air in the building. And what does seniority have to do with anything? Are you saying they will have to quit because they don't like the smoke? That would be their problem, not the smokers, and not the employers. If you think your health is being impacted, file suit, or contact OSHA. We don't need more laws. We need fewer laws, and fewer lawmakers.
thomas Laprade

Thunder Bay, Canada

#52 Oct 2, 2010
Who are the organisations behind smoking bans??

Is it the special interst groups??

Why??
thomas Laprade

Thunder Bay, Canada

#53 Oct 2, 2010
Owners have a 'right' to use or permit a legal product on 'private' property

http://fightingback.homestead.com
Rune04

O Fallon, MO

#54 Oct 3, 2010
Have you ever held the hand of a loved one dieing of cancer?

Yes I have. My father died of cancer and never smoked a day in his life. You, my fine lady, are an idiot.
sandyfromchester field

Saint Louis, MO

#55 Oct 4, 2010
He was elected to save indoor space? After he gets the smoking ban for all of St. Charles County he will go after legalizing pot, I am sure. That is just how someone like him thinks.
drbob4591

Saint Charles, MO

#56 Oct 5, 2010
So let me get this straight for all the people who smoke they can come in ruin my health and make a place smell bad? and I'm to be cool with this?

But if I come in covered in toxic wast that is hazardous to them and puts off toxins then that's OK?

I think smokers need to realize I don't care if they smoke just do it away from me so I'm not forced to smell or have my health at risk. No different then I'm sure you would want if I was doing something near you or your kids or elderly grandparents that would affect there health and smells bad.

PLEASE FEEL FREE,FREE, FREE TO SMOKE ALL YOU WANT
JUST DON"T FEEL YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO FORCE THE SMELL AND SECOND HAND SMOKE ONTO ME.

P.S. PLEASE ALSO PAY ALL YOUR OWN MEDICAL EXPENSES SO MY TAXES STAY LOW AFTER ALL IT"S YOUR CHOICE TO DO WHAT YOU WANT WITH YOUR HEALTH....

AND STOP BLAMING THE GOVERNMENT FOR MAKING THESE GOOD CHOICES IT'S THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO LIVE HEALTH AND SMELL GOOD THAT ASK THEM TO PASS THIS TYPE OF LAW..

ALL OF MISSOURI SHOULD GO SMOKE FREE IN PUBLIC PLACES AND 25 FEET FROM ALL AIR INTAKES TO BUILDINGS JUST AS MANY OTHER STATES HAVE DONE

SMOKE AWAY JUST STAY AWAY FROM THE REST OF US.!!!
drbob4591

Saint Charles, MO

#57 Oct 5, 2010
WhoOwnsTheAir wrote:
Suppose I invite you over my house (which is private property, BTW) There is a known hazard there. The hazard might be broken stairs or something. You know of the hazard too. But you visit me anyway. Then you have an adverse circumstance; you fall down these stairs and break your leg. You will surely sue me. Or will you? Perhaps you feel that it is MY RIGHT to booby-trap my home in myriad ways, and as long as you, the visitor, knows of these hazards, all is OK. But is it? The reality is that, you WILL sue, in order to collect your deserved damages for "pain-and-suffering. " You see, I AM responsible for YOUR safety, as long as you are on my property. So bar owners are, in turn, responsible for the safety of their patrons. Just ask a lawyer.
Your right we should get a large group of people together and sue all these bars and restaurants right out of business then we can open our own place smoke free and healthy...
LSL resident

United States

#58 Oct 5, 2010
SMOKEING BULL wrote:
LAKE ST LOUIS is not worth the publicity there getting on this . Just remember to not VISIT , SHOP or ANY THING ELSE and let the YUPPES have there SWAMP LAKE to themselves .
Yes they should ban people from the lake to because its just as hazardous as smoking if not more pollutant. Look at the history books there was a virus in those waters during a swim meet with people from all over the world and after the meet they found it in the water and had to contact everybody that swam in there and tell them they could have possibly caught a deadly virus and to go get checked up. So yea they should ban people from the lake to then if it goes down like that. More people have drowned there in the last year than people dieing in the local bar !!!!!!!!!! Think about it.
My 2 Cents

Old Monroe, MO

#59 Oct 5, 2010
What's wrong, if I as a business owner, decide to allow smoking in my restaurant/bar? I would fully understand that non-smokers would choose to pass my establishment by to go eat at a smoke free establishment-I'm ok with that. I hire my employee's based on them being ok with that.(Side grrr, enough with the single parent thing, come on, they don't have to work in a smoking restaurant or bar-I see plenty of places, on just about every corner that are smoke free. How many things does the single parent card cover?) Why, because I choose to cater to the smoking crowd, should I be forced into a ban? I would not expect a non-smoking customer to enjoy the atmosphere, but it's my place, my rules. I know I would be losing the dollar of the non-smoker. I am ignoring the comfort of the non-smoker if they choose to walk in my door, but I'm ok with that`because I'm not looking for their dollar anyway.
Before we go off in a million directions, smoking is legal, so there is no need to start making wild comparisions. L E G A L. Yes, it's a public place, but there's a million public places-go to the next one if you don't like my smoking policy. And no, I do not think smokers should be able to smoke anywhere, whenever. I'm not advocating for smokng in day care centers, I'm talking about restaurants and bars-the places this ban directly effects.
King Kong

Collinsville, IL

#60 Oct 5, 2010
F these nazis. EVERYONE who smokes tobacco,pot,crack and meth should line the streets and light up kinda like the stop abortion people did the past weekend. Dont forget to throw all used cigarette butts in front of city hall.

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