Paul goes home to Texas just as campa...

Paul goes home to Texas just as campaign heats up

There are 223 comments on the Belleville News Democrat story from Jan 14, 2012, titled Paul goes home to Texas just as campaign heats up. In it, Belleville News Democrat reports that:

While the other Republican presidential candidates were campaigning in South Carolina, the Texas congressman whose recent momentum is arguably second only to front-runner Mitt Romney's is home taking a break, just as his often belittled candidacy has never been taken more seriously.

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torch

Crozet, VA

#22 Jan 15, 2012
Many NRA members, pointing to the “Oath Keepers,” former members of the military who pledge to defend the Constitution, and to police chiefs who support the Second Amendment, believe that the police and military will disobey orders to attack citizens.
But we already witness constantly the gratuitous brutality of “our” police against peaceful protesters. We witness military troops all over the world murder citizens who protest government abuses. Why can’t it happen here?

If you don’t want it to happen here, you had better figure out some way to get Ron Paul into the Presidency and to get him a cabinet and subcabinet that will support him.
torch

Crozet, VA

#23 Jan 15, 2012
Meanwhile, the police state grows. On January 4, 2012, the Obama regime announced by decree, not by legislation, the creation of the Bureau of Counterterrorism which will among other tasks “seek to strengthen homeland security, countering violent extremism.” http://newsok.com/obama-launches-bureau-of-co...

Take a moment to think. Do you know of any “violent extremism” happening in the US?
The regime is telling you that it needs a new police bureau with unaccountable powers to “strengthen homeland security” against a nonexistent bogyman.
torch

Crozet, VA

#24 Jan 15, 2012
So who will be the violent extremists who require countering by the Bureau of Counterterrorism? It will be peace activists, the Occupy Wall Street protesters, the unemployed and foreclosed homeless. It will be whoever the police state says. And
there is no due process or recourse to law.

Given the facts before you, you are out of your mind if you think Ron Paul’s rhetoric against the welfare state is more important than his defense of liberty.
torch

Crozet, VA

#25 Jan 15, 2012
My only question now is all you Paul haters,

WELL DO YOU REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON IN YOUR COUNTRY OR ARE YOU STILL BENDING OVER BLAMING REPUBS OR BLAMING DEMS WHO ARE NOTHING MORE THAN A TWOHEADED SATANIST SNAKE FROM HELL

ANYONE EVER REALLY WONDER WHAT WAR WITH THE SAINTS IS ALL ABOUT?

“Tea parties R 4 little girls.”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#26 Jan 15, 2012
torch wrote:
My only question now is all you Paul haters,
WELL DO YOU REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON IN YOUR COUNTRY OR ARE YOU STILL BENDING OVER BLAMING REPUBS OR BLAMING DEMS WHO ARE NOTHING MORE THAN A TWOHEADED SATANIST SNAKE FROM HELL
ANYONE EVER REALLY WONDER WHAT WAR WITH THE SAINTS IS ALL ABOUT?
After watching that incredible game with the 49'ers last night, I sure do.
torch

Crozet, VA

#27 Jan 15, 2012
Jim Trebowski wrote:
<quoted text> After watching that incredible game with the 49'ers last night, I sure do.
Haha, that was good form ol chap, and man that was a awesome game!

“Tea parties R 4 little girls.”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#28 Jan 15, 2012
torch wrote:
<quoted text>
Haha, that was good form ol chap, and man that was a awesome game!
Lol...I couldn't resist. Look, so much of what you say rings true, and I agree with much of it. To be honest with you, RP still scare me quite a bit, but so does the erosion of our liberties.(amongst some other things he talks about) When I read comment threads on other sites (like one talking about the Leesburg Fl incident you mentioned) I can't help but wonder if there's a little paranoia going on (and they're playing "connect-the-dots" to justify it) or if they're correct in their assertions. I'm not convinced yet, and i will continue to challenge you and other RP supporters, but i promise to keep an open mind.
torch

Crozet, VA

#29 Jan 15, 2012
Jim Trebowski wrote:
<quoted text> Lol...I couldn't resist. Look, so much of what you say rings true, and I agree with much of it. To be honest with you, RP still scare me quite a bit, but so does the erosion of our liberties.(amongst some other things he talks about) When I read comment threads on other sites (like one talking about the Leesburg Fl incident you mentioned) I can't help but wonder if there's a little paranoia going on (and they're playing "connect-the-dots" to justify it) or if they're correct in their assertions. I'm not convinced yet, and i will continue to challenge you and other RP supporters, but i promise to keep an open mind.
I support the guy cause I believe he is the only one not owned. Paranoia, I remember the swine flu scare, I was privy to alot of info coming out on it and was blown away about all they were looking to do, I also kept in the back of my mind the fact I had overheard that a epidemic scare (this was about 7 to 9 months before it came out) which was the swine flu they said 10 of thousands dead in new york alone. Well word got out and I looked at what happened less people died of the flu that year let alone the swine flu than in decades, and the kicker to me was less people in dacades took a flu shot. Heck politicians with there inside trading legal for them illegal for us and there rich,

IM STILL WONDERING WHY ERIC HOLDER, FAT JANET HAVE NOT BEEN ARRESTED FOR FAST AND FURIOUS!

ALL RIGHT IMPORTANT ISSUE NOW IS NEW YORK OR GREEN BAY? WHAT SAYEST THOU? LOL
Sve

Stockholm, Sweden

#30 Jan 15, 2012
Saying truly. People, it gets about future of your country, your children etc. This man is the best republican and the best candidate in your country.
He has very good proposals:
- foreign policy - peaceful talks, withdrawal from wars, take your army home, make strong army in own country, which will not be global aggressor, leaveing nato. Not to unleash wars.
- financial proposals - to stop to give foreign aid means to stop finance global regimes, wars and other stupid actions
- and in USA- to reduce taxes for middle class, to support small and middle businesses , to stop to make more free trade agreements, which kill your economy.
- He is Christian, he is conservatist and he has conservative values like supporting life, like Christianity.
It is written everywhere and this man does not need to go to every village and say the same things. It is Tv, it is internet ( Ron Paul war and peace in google or www. issuesorg. 2000 )It is XXI century and it is your country USA. You have already big economical and globals problems and the next idiot for president just like this Romney ( Bush ) or Odumba ( Clintons ) and it will be deadlock and death of your country. And finish.

“Tea parties R 4 little girls.”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#31 Jan 15, 2012
@Torch: " Ron Paul has said that he does not support ending welfare before an economy is created that makes a welfare state unnecessary"

That puts my mind at ease, because unlike how Republicans like to portray us, Liberals do NOT want to continue a welfare state. We'd like to end it, but not at the expense of yanking a security net out from under them until the economy you desribe is in place. However,(and I've been looking) I can't find anywhere where he spicifically states that. Can you point me in the right direction?
Also,off the top of my head, another question: I've read that under RP, if a company pollutes your property, all you have to do is sue them. Well, let's take a hypothetical situation. Suppose my well water is poisened by a company fracking for natural gas nearby. So,(after being exposed to these chemicals foe God knows how long), I sue them. I've got a local lawyer with passion, but the company I'm suing has an army of powerful, well-connected corporate lawyers with virtually limitless money to fight me. Aren't I right to be concerned about this?
Lastly, if you remember, I brought up my concern with the possibility of N. Korea attacking S.Korea if we remove our troops from the DMZ. What would happen if they did attack?
Keeping an open mind....
torch

Crozet, VA

#32 Jan 15, 2012
What most Americans don’t know is that the only thing keeping the price above $2.00 is the fact that our oil companies are exporting our gasoline at bargain basement prices to their own foreign subsidiaries subsidized by high American prices.

You see, gasoline usage, around the world, has fallen dramatically.

Gas is a liquid. Imagine a glass of water. You fill it to the top, you add more, it overflows.

Same with gasoline. Tank farms fill up, the rusty pickup truck in the driveway has gas in it, the BP station is full to capacity, everything that can hold gasoline except for your bath tub is filled to capacity. Normally, this would crash prices.

Instead, America exports gas, dirt cheap and in huge volume, 480,000 barrels per day. But this is an export you say, a good thing. Is it now?

American refineries are the most expensive in the world with the highest wages
The gasoline exported was made from crude oil shipped halfway around the world
To gain market share, America would have to compete with refineries closer to oil supplies, refineries with cheap labor, most of which are owned by governments or government controlled corporations
This means America’s exports are subsidized. By “subsidized,” we mean “fixed” or “rigged.” I think it is safe to say we have known this for a very long time, I don’t expect anyone to have a heart attack reading this.

Ah, but there is more. A while ago, oil hit $70 bucks a barrel. Even that was high, high enough for gas to go to $1.79 a gallon though the price never moved an inch, not up to $1.79 or would that be “down?”

Below is a graph showing imported oil hitting $37.00 per barrel after the economic crash. Today oil is over $100.00 per barrel and the economic crisis has spread to Europe and actually gotten much worse
Sve

Stockholm, Sweden

#33 Jan 15, 2012
OneRyder wrote:
<quoted text>
Pro-choice, pro-drugs, against Feds sex trafficking laws, isolationist, pacifists, against everything Bush and repubs did...and you think repubs love the guy.
I don't think it gets anymore blissfully ignorant than it is inside your head.
...ok carry on with your fantasy world.
When Paul doesn't win in S.C. blame little green men from a red planet named Mars.
Your head reminds us of Jupiter....large but solely made of hot gases.
- antiwars, anti global military engagement of USA , peaceful, no sanctions, no new wars, no foreign, criminal aid, no more free trade, prolife. Primum non nocere- it should be the golden rule in politics and only such candidate, who is honest, not corrupt and is the greatest politician in USA understands it and should be president there and Ron Paul is just such candidate. And it is his programm. It can be really the last chance to restore and save your country. It will be no more such chances. Maybe if you will loose this last chance, you will understand it someday and everybody understands it.

“Tea parties R 4 little girls.”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#34 Jan 15, 2012
torch wrote:
<quoted text>
I support the guy cause I believe he is the only one not owned. Paranoia, I remember the swine flu scare, I was privy to alot of info coming out on it and was blown away about all they were looking to do, I also kept in the back of my mind the fact I had overheard that a epidemic scare (this was about 7 to 9 months before it came out) which was the swine flu they said 10 of thousands dead in new york alone. Well word got out and I looked at what happened less people died of the flu that year let alone the swine flu than in decades, and the kicker to me was less people in dacades took a flu shot. Heck politicians with there inside trading legal for them illegal for us and there rich,
IM STILL WONDERING WHY ERIC HOLDER, FAT JANET HAVE NOT BEEN ARRESTED FOR FAST AND FURIOUS!
ALL RIGHT IMPORTANT ISSUE NOW IS NEW YORK OR GREEN BAY? WHAT SAYEST THOU? LOL
He may not be owned now, but unfortunately, if he did get into the WH, the only way he could be re-elected is if he was.Also, remember, that while he talks about reducing our dependence on the government, he still enjoys free healthcare, a large salary, and a fat pension. He can't fix Washington and Wall St. by himself, but hopefully, the OWS movement will have some sort of impact.
As far as the swine flu thing goes, I didn't fall for it, and I think you'd be surprised at hpw many actually didn't.(and I'm not talking about Alex Jones types either)
The insider trading thing pisses me off too...no argument from me, as does the Fast and furious incident. While I also feel the same way about Dick Cheney and co., you won't see our politicians going to jail until the rules are changed.(good luck getting that passed)
Now...onto the most pressing matter...as a diehard Redskin fan, I feel a little obligated to show some division pride and root for the Giants, but even as a little kid, I've always like the Packers, and I believe Rogers is a much better and more consistent QB, so....GO GREEN BAY!!

“Tea parties R 4 little girls.”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#35 Jan 15, 2012
"You see, gasoline usage, around the world, has fallen dramatically."

Are you sure? Both China and India have a growing middle class where more people can actually afford cars.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#36 Jan 15, 2012
Jim Trebowski wrote:
<quoted text> Perhaps, but understanding what the difference is when it comes to Paul is another matter because he's quite vague about what he means. I was just reading a thread on one of his forums, and even ardent supportes seemed to be divided as to what he really wants.(i.e bringing all the troops home, closing some vs. all of our overseas bases, etc.) No doubt we never should have gone into Iraq, and even Afghanistan now looks like a bad decision, but would it really be wise to pull our troops out of the border with N. Korea? What would happen if N.Korea decided to lob a few missiles into Seoul?
We can't afford to defend every country in the world. It weakens our security.
If they decide to lob a few missiles into Kansas, then it becomes our business.
And I agree with Paul in that OUR border is so much more important than North Korea's border.
The job of a the POTUS is to protect US and OUR country.
But I don't agree that he's vague on his positions. It may seem that way if you only get your info from blogs and from TV. But if you go to his websites and listen to his speeches, many which can be found on Youtube, I think he's quite clear. These are some good sites from which to get info.
www.ronpaul2012.com
www.ronpaulflix.com
www.dailypaul.com
www.ronpaul.com
torch

Crozet, VA

#37 Jan 15, 2012
Jim Trebowski wrote:
<quoted text> He may not be owned now, but unfortunately, if he did get into the WH, the only way he could be re-elected is if he was.Also, remember, that while he talks about reducing our dependence on the government, he still enjoys free healthcare, a large salary, and a fat pension. He can't fix Washington and Wall St. by himself, but hopefully, the OWS movement will have some sort of impact.
As far as the swine flu thing goes, I didn't fall for it, and I think you'd be surprised at hpw many actually didn't.(and I'm not talking about Alex Jones types either)
The insider trading thing pisses me off too...no argument from me, as does the Fast and furious incident. While I also feel the same way about Dick Cheney and co., you won't see our politicians going to jail until the rules are changed.(good luck getting that passed)
Now...onto the most pressing matter...as a diehard Redskin fan, I feel a little obligated to show some division pride and root for the Giants, but even as a little kid, I've always like the Packers, and I believe Rogers is a much better and more consistent QB, so....GO GREEN BAY!!
Swine flu, yey you know somethings wrong when nurses were threatened with there jobs if they refused the shot and alot did.

Hmmm, a true Redskins fan aka you always cheer for your team and for what ever team is playing dallas? that to me is what makes up a true redskin fan lol.
I wont get started on dick chenney and bush etc. The only thing comes to my mind, they are guilty for treason in my mind. Do they still use fire squad for this stuff these people pull

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#38 Jan 15, 2012
torch wrote:
<quoted text>
If Ron Paul is not elected president in this year’s election, by 2016 American liberty will be in a forgotten grave in a forgotten grave yard.
Having said this, there is no way Ron Paul can be elected, for these reasons:
Not enough Americans understand that the “war on terror” has been used to create a police state. The brainwashed citizenry believe that the police state is making them safe from terrorists.
Liberals, progressives, and the left-wing oppose Ron Paul, claiming that “he would abolish the social safety net, privatize Social Security and Medicare, throw the widows and orphans into the street, abolish the Federal Reserve,” etc.
Apparently, liberals, progressives, and the left-wing do not understand that privatizing Social Security and Medicare and destroying the social safety net are policies that many conservative Republicans favor and are policies that Wall Street is forcing on both political parties. In contrast, a President Ron Paul would be isolated in the White House and would never be able to muster the support of Congress and the powerful interest groups to achieve such radical changes. Moreover, Ron Paul has made it clear that a welfare-free state cannot be achieved by decree but only by creating an economy in which opportunity exists for people to stand on their own feet. Ron Paul has said that he does not support ending welfare before an economy is created that makes a welfare state unnecessary
"there is no way Ron Paul can be elected"
BULLSHIT!
You people need to QUIT SAYING THIS!!!!! DAMN IT, STOP IT!!!!!
He CAN BE ELECTED. The DAMN POLLS SHOW THIS!!(You know, the ones you won't see on TV.)
The media is planting this shit in peoples minds, even though they know it's true as well. That's why they ignore and marginalize him to the extent they can get away with. They are scared to death HE WILL WIN!
Just a small sample of the evidence:
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http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articles/republ...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/12/ron-...
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#39 Jan 15, 2012
torch wrote:
<quoted text>
If Ron Paul is not elected president in this year’s election, by 2016 American liberty will be in a forgotten grave in a forgotten grave yard.
Having said this, there is no way Ron Paul can be elected, for these reasons:
Not enough Americans understand that the “war on terror” has been used to create a police state. The brainwashed citizenry believe that the police state is making them safe from terrorists.
Liberals, progressives, and the left-wing oppose Ron Paul, claiming that “he would abolish the social safety net, privatize Social Security and Medicare, throw the widows and orphans into the street, abolish the Federal Reserve,” etc.
Apparently, liberals, progressives, and the left-wing do not understand that privatizing Social Security and Medicare and destroying the social safety net are policies that many conservative Republicans favor and are policies that Wall Street is forcing on both political parties. In contrast, a President Ron Paul would be isolated in the White House and would never be able to muster the support of Congress and the powerful interest groups to achieve such radical changes. Moreover, Ron Paul has made it clear that a welfare-free state cannot be achieved by decree but only by creating an economy in which opportunity exists for people to stand on their own feet. Ron Paul has said that he does not support ending welfare before an economy is created that makes a welfare state unnecessary
"Liberals, progressives, and the left-wing oppose Ron Paul,"
That too is a FALSE statement.
They love his view on the wars. He has lots of support among liberals because of this, and he carries 50% of the independants.
He also has the fiscal conservatives, libertarians, young people, more blacks than the other republicans, and the military.
He gets more donations from the military than all the other candidates combined!
More and more people are catching onto to his message and his support has done nothing but increase....unlike the rest who go up and down.
You have two options.
Continue to deny this and vote for the lesser of the evils- which will keep us on a path of destruction.
Or
Support Paul, keep getting his message out, despite who the media pushes on us, and vote for Ron Paul in November, so we can get our freedoms back and stop the spending.

Since: Dec 07

Clermont, Florida

#40 Jan 15, 2012
The republican establishment would never allow Ron Paul to become the nominee. What's bad is that if he goes 3rd party, Obama's going to get another 4 years.

And yes, I truly believe the RNC and DNC control who their choice will be, e.g., 2008 when they disallowed Florida and Michigan's primaries in which Hillary beat out Obama.

And even this year the RNC determined that only 50% of Florida's delegates will be counted because our legislature moved the voting date to an earlier time.

“Tea parties R 4 little girls.”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#41 Jan 15, 2012
torch wrote:
<quoted text>
Swine flu, yey you know somethings wrong when nurses were threatened with there jobs if they refused the shot and alot did.
Hmmm, a true Redskins fan aka you always cheer for your team and for what ever team is playing dallas? that to me is what makes up a true redskin fan lol.
I wont get started on dick chenney and bush etc. The only thing comes to my mind, they are guilty for treason in my mind. Do they still use fire squad for this stuff these people pull
We have a Rep. down here in Florida (Brad Drake) who wants to bring the firing squad back, but I'm pretty sure he'd be against using it for elected officials..lol.
Yes, nurses were supposed to take the flu shot, but because of their exposure to so many patients. One could argue that the dangers of the swine flu simply didn't pan out as officials feared it might. I'm not saying that your conspiracy theory isn't true, but it's still just a conspiracy theory. One can conceivably connect the dots to fit any theory, and make it sound plausible. Just sayin'.
Oh, and yeah....ANYBODY BUT DALLAS!!! Now...whose your team?

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