Paul goes home to Texas just as campa...

Paul goes home to Texas just as campaign heats up

There are 223 comments on the Belleville News Democrat story from Jan 14, 2012, titled Paul goes home to Texas just as campaign heats up. In it, Belleville News Democrat reports that:

While the other Republican presidential candidates were campaigning in South Carolina, the Texas congressman whose recent momentum is arguably second only to front-runner Mitt Romney's is home taking a break, just as his often belittled candidacy has never been taken more seriously.

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“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#207 Jan 21, 2012
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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Bullsh!t!
You wrote it so garbled that it confused both Jim and me. We have BOTH told you that now, yet you insist it was clear.
Grow up Raptor. Just admit that you could have written it more clearly.
Sure, I could have written it more clear. I don't know how I could have, but I guess I could have.

“Tea parties R 4 little girls.”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#208 Jan 21, 2012
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
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WOW! You both need to quit drinking the battery acid. To confuse that question when put in context with the points I made today, there would be no way one could take that as "coal does no harm to the envirnoment," when I clearly stated it does- over and over.
"How do you propose we acquire our energy that does no harm to the environment?"
Translated, "how can we get energy that is harmless to the environment?"
Should we not use coal at all?"
Translated, "Should we discontinue it's use?" (because it does some harm)
My God, how else could I repharse it to be understandable?
Wind??? You think wind is less harmful?? Think again. If you like birds and bats, and natural habitat, as I do, you would know how destructiive wind farms are to avain life. Not only that, wind farms don't leave. Land is destroyed permanently, and birds are killed continually- unlike the mines that leave the land to regenrate.
http://www.wind-watch.org/
Industrial-scale wind energy is widely promoted as a clean and sustainable source of energy. It brings, however, many adverse impacts of its own which are often ignored or even denied. Of most immediate concern for communities targeted for wind power facilities are their huge size and unavoidable noise, and strobe lights day and night, with the consequent loss of amenity and, in many cases, health.
People concerned with the environment are increasingly aware of the negative impacts of the giant machines and their additional supporting infrastructure (including heavy-duty roads, transformers, and powerlines) on wetlands, birds, bats, beneficial insects, and other wildlife both directly and by degrading, fragmenting, and destroying habitat for their erection.
Considering these and other impacts, the construction of industrial wind energy facilities cannot be justified in the rural and wild places that developers usually target. They do more harm than good.
How much good do they actually do? The claims of reducing pollution or greenhouse gases appear to be greatly exaggerated. Wind is a diffuse and fickle resource that does not follow demand. Despite decades of experience and substantial installations in Denmark, Germany, and Spain, the giant turbines have not been shown to reduce the use of other fuels on the electric grid such as natural gas, coal, and nuclear let alone gasoline for transport and oil for heating. For this reason, their ability to reduce carbon dioxide emissions that contribute to global warming or pollutants that cause acid rain and health problems is doubtful, despite their tremendous size and sprawl.
Windwatch.org ? Here's a little bit about the driving force behind that site: http://www.aweo.org/about.html
Not only is it clear he was already a NIMBY guy, all the things he complains about could easily be applied to other forms of energy. Look, I never said wind was perfect, but to make an argument that it's just as harmful as mountaintop removal is a stretch.

“Tea parties R 4 little girls.”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#209 Jan 21, 2012
All forms of energy have problems. Take your pick! http://www.epa.gov/cleanenergy/energy-and-you...

“Tea parties R 4 little girls.”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#210 Jan 21, 2012
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
Audible? I didn't hear it. Maybe you should speak up and be more clear!
:)
Do I have to put both of you in "Time-out"? lol

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#211 Jan 21, 2012
Jim Trebowski wrote:
<quoted text> Easy now. Relax. Maybe you need a drink with a liberal amount of booze while listening to some good music that gets progressively better, than finish off with socializing with some comrades down at Union Square.
It's okay. Aquarius is a friend. He's still a little upset about the coal he found in his stocking on Christmas morning.

“Tea parties R 4 little girls.”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#212 Jan 21, 2012
Maybe we could have congress stay in session 24/7 all year and require them to make speeches everyday. All that hot air and bull shit could power every home and business in America all on it's own.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#213 Jan 21, 2012
Jim Trebowski wrote:
<quoted text> Windwatch.org ? Here's a little bit about the driving force behind that site: http://www.aweo.org/about.html
Not only is it clear he was already a NIMBY guy, all the things he complains about could easily be applied to other forms of energy. Look, I never said wind was perfect, but to make an argument that it's just as harmful as mountaintop removal is a stretch.
No it's not a stretch. Both are harmful. The difference is once the coal mining is done, it's done. Eventually the land recovers and the animals return. Sure the slope may have changed, but it recovers nonetheless.

Wind turbines will knock birds out of the sky and make bats lungs explode as long as the turbine stands. And many are placed along bird migration routes. The habitat that was destroyed for them and cement slabs that hold the turbines, will be there as long as the turbines are. So will the roads and the powerlines, which also kill birds by electricution, and destroys even more land.

While wind itself may be clean, the process to use it is not.
I'm not saying we shouldn't use wind at all, just that it's not as wonderfully clean, or "green" as people think it is.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#214 Jan 21, 2012
Jim Trebowski wrote:
<quoted text> Do I have to put both of you in "Time-out"? lol
Sometimes we could both use that!
I think we're both a little stressed over the big vote today.:)

I'm feeling better now, though. I took a mind-altering substance that is starting to have some effect.
It is legal, in case any government officials are looking in on this thread.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#215 Jan 21, 2012
Jim Trebowski wrote:
Maybe we could have congress stay in session 24/7 all year and require them to make speeches everyday. All that hot air and bull shit could power every home and business in America all on it's own.
LOL.
Some of it could be used, I imagine.
But I do like listening to this guy give speeches.

“Tea parties R 4 little girls.”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#216 Jan 21, 2012
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
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Sometimes we could both use that!
I think we're both a little stressed over the big vote today.:)
I'm feeling better now, though. I took a mind-altering substance that is starting to have some effect.
It is legal, in case any government officials are looking in on this thread.
If it's what I think it is, that stuff is stronger than the real stuff..lol!

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#217 Jan 21, 2012
I can see it now. Paul will do better than expected in South Carolina and the media will blow it off as "Most people stayed home because it was raining."

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SE Michigan

#218 Jan 21, 2012
Jim Trebowski wrote:
<quoted text> If it's what I think it is, that stuff is stronger than the real stuff..lol!
Vicodin. Taken for neck pain.

“Tea parties R 4 little girls.”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#219 Jan 21, 2012
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL.
Some of it could be used, I imagine.
But I do like listening to this guy give speeches.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =kAulpWLZC2YXX
Ok..with a video like that...I can see why people would go nuts over him...but I'm sorry...while there's things I agree with him on, he's just too darn conservative for me. Not only do I believe that corporations would become even more powerful and abusive under him, I also feel that he would yank the financial security net that we provide the needy before having a system in place to get rid of welfare/foodstamps/medicare, etc. It seems to me that he thinks if he kicks a house of cards, some of the cards will land magically as a smaller house of cards.

“Tea parties R 4 little girls.”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#220 Jan 21, 2012
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
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Vicodin. Taken for neck pain.
oh. Ithought it was that "legal weed". Sorry about the neck

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#221 Jan 21, 2012
Jim Trebowski wrote:
<quoted text> Ok..with a video like that...I can see why people would go nuts over him...but I'm sorry...while there's things I agree with him on, he's just too darn conservative for me. Not only do I believe that corporations would become even more powerful and abusive under him, I also feel that he would yank the financial security net that we provide the needy before having a system in place to get rid of welfare/foodstamps/medicare, etc. It seems to me that he thinks if he kicks a house of cards, some of the cards will land magically as a smaller house of cards.
By that statement, as well as a few others you made today, I would say you seem like a fair-minded, level-headed person, but still haven't fully heard Ron Paul's message.

I don't believe corporations could get any more powerful than they already are. Both parties have contributed to them acquiring that power. Politicians of both parties pander to them, so they can keep THEIR power. Government looks out for corporations. Corporations look out for the politicians. It is the status quo as usual and neither side wants that to change.

This is the reason for the fierce attempt by the media (run by corporations AND government) to ignore Paul when they can, make him seem nutty when they do talk about him, and insist he is unelectable when all of the above fails. They FEAR that man.

That's a big part of Ron Paul's appeal to his supporters. Paul cannot be bought- by anybody. He has a conviction and stands by it. Most of his donations are from the little guy, and the military. There is a reason for that. Notice they have never tried showing us his flip-flops, skeletons, etc... There are none, even though he has a long record to search through.

He has never said he would yank anybody's cushion (medicare and such). That is not his intention.

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#222 Jan 21, 2012
Jim Trebowski wrote:
<quoted text>oh. Ithought it was that "legal weed". Sorry about the neck
Thanks. I got hit by a semi when I was 16. Nothing but problems ever since.

“Tea parties R 4 little girls.”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#223 Jan 21, 2012
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
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Thanks. I got hit by a semi when I was 16. Nothing but problems ever since.
Holy crap! You're lucky to be alive.

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#224 Jan 23, 2012
Jim Trebowski wrote:
<quoted text> Holy crap! You're lucky to be alive.
Yes, I am lucky Jim. It was a 1969 Impala I was driving that likely saved my life. One of the reasons I like bigger vehicles today. They are safer; even at the risk of emitting more CO2. While I care for the environment, as most conservatives do, it is not my biggest concern when it comes to voting. I don't know anyone who wants to destroy the environment. You have no reason to fear Ron Paul on the environment like you alluded to in a previous post.

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Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#225 Jan 23, 2012
Jim and Aquarius,
I have gone back over my posts regarding the coal mining and I can see how that question (post #177) could have been confusing. I really thought I had worded it perfectly. I knew exactly what I was trying to ask, but I can see how you guys may not have understood it.

I'm sorry for going off on a tirade against you guys and acting like you were stupid because you didn't understand what I wrote.

What I was trying to ask is; What forms of energy should we use that are completely safe for the environment and wildlife, both in acquiring AND using it, out of all the sources available to us?

I hope that is more clear.

“Tea parties R 4 little girls.”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#226 Jan 23, 2012
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
Jim and Aquarius,
I have gone back over my posts regarding the coal mining and I can see how that question (post #177) could have been confusing. I really thought I had worded it perfectly. I knew exactly what I was trying to ask, but I can see how you guys may not have understood it.
I'm sorry for going off on a tirade against you guys and acting like you were stupid because you didn't understand what I wrote.
What I was trying to ask is; What forms of energy should we use that are completely safe for the environment and wildlife, both in acquiring AND using it, out of all the sources available to us?
I hope that is more clear.
I just happened to check in on Topix, and it's a little late, so I'll get back to you, but for what it's worth, I didn't take your "tirade" personally and I don't think Aquarius did either. It was kinda funny though :)

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