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How's life treating you in Lake Elsinore?

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weaffectchange

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#1 Apr 5, 2009
My husband and I are considering Lake Elsinore as one of our relocation choices. Any thoughts out there on crime, neighborhoods, lifestyles and people in general? Give it to me straight and don't hold back--tell me the good, the bad, and the ugly.

Since: Apr 09

Sherman Oaks, CA

#2 Apr 5, 2009
Lake Elsinore is a pretty great place to raise a family or enjoy a slower paced lifestyle. I feel it is one of SoCal's best kept secrets and the town has a lot of potential for being 120 years old. The lake is clean and boasts some of the best fishing in the area, plus a high speed boating zone for boating enthusiasts. We have world class hang-gliding, sky diving, and dirt biking tracks. We have a card casino, a family entertainment center, a movie theater, an outlet mall, a minor league baseball team and most major shopping amenities (Costco, Target, Walmart, Home Depot, etc...). There are two major malls in the neighboring cities 20 minutes away, which is convenient yet helps keep traffic down throughout our city.

I would say that your experience living here depends on your neighborhood, much like any other city. Master planned communities like Canyon Hills, Tuscany Hills, Lake Terrace, and Alberhill Ranch are all nice neighborhoods. The schools in those areas are ranked very high K-12 and you will be separated from the commercial developments throughout the city. A quick note, most neighborhoods along the west side of the lake (Grand Street) are not in city limits and are typically older, lower income neighborhoods. Those residents have rebuffed annexation efforts for decades and now pay the price (poor police, medical, or retail shopping) for letting the county plan their growth.

My complaints of Lake Elsinore would be in new developments. First, most cities plan their major commercial/industrial developments in the heart of a city, then plan high density residential in and around that, then plan lower density residential around that, followed by light comercial to service the outlying residential, then is followed by the lowest density suburbs. The middle of our city is the lake, which is what I think has caused what some might call sprawl throughout the city. It's impossible to avoid because we have 5 major residential areas and 4 major commercial/industrial center points that are spaced along the lake. So although we have the movie theater on the south side of the lake, residents on the north side of the lake may prefer to drive to a Corona theater because the drive time is shorter. The city is also undergoing major street improvements which has temporarily made some driving inconvenient (still nowhere near as bad as Temecula). There is a slew of ideas for a pier and marina that have been slow to materialize due to a bumbling city council. The council over the past decade or so has done a job of correcting problems left to them by much worse leaders before them, but there are a few leftovers that are more interested in playing it safe and serving the wealthy special interests in town rather than making the bigger progress that the community truly desires. Other posters on this site will give me hell for criticizing their precious councilmembers, but couple of these guys may be the biggest problem our city has right now.

I encourage you to visit the city web site www.lake-elsinore.org for more city info. Final grade for the city? A solid B with the potential of an A.
Renee Cummings

Corona, CA

#3 Apr 7, 2009
weaffectchange wrote:
My husband and I are considering Lake Elsinore as one of our relocation choices. Any thoughts out there on crime, neighborhoods, lifestyles and people in general? Give it to me straight and don't hold back--tell me the good, the bad, and the ugly.
I just purchased a home in a new community - Alberhill Ranch and my family and I couldn't be more happier with the choice!!

There is allot to be said about the new home developments in L.E.- I think they have helped bring L.E. out of some of it's horrible stigma that has been hovering over it for years. It truly has enhanced Lake Elsinore and even though the housing crash hit L.E. about the hardest - it is truly starting to recover. I can honestly tell you that as soon as a foreclosure hits the market in Alberhill - it's gone within 30days - which is pretty good considering the market. The middle school - Terra Cotta - has an API of 799 - that's almost PERFECT since California has set a goal for all public schools to reach 800. Lakeside High School for the area is only 4 years old or so and it is a state of the art school with an API of 723 - that is VERY good for a school that is only a few years old. In conjunction - they just had 6 of their seniors accepted at UCLA - those too are very good numbers for a school that size.

Also - there is allot of potential for commerical development bringing in higher end shopping and restaurants in L.E. With the amount of younger families that have moved in - they are looking for better shopping choices and eateries. I would love to see places like Cheesecake Factory, PF Changs, Opai's, etc...

I heard on the news the other day a reporting that L.E. is a great place to purchase a home due to prices as well as the amount of home you get. I think with that promotion that L.E. will truly be the next hub here in the IE in the next few years.

All in all - I am SO excited to be here and have already gotten involved with community service as well as helping to promote more high end commerical development within the city. I feel that city council has a great vision for the communities at large and with the help of residents and homeowners alike - we can all make it the city that L.E. was destined to be!
My 2 cents

Irvine, CA

#4 Apr 10, 2009
weaffectchange wrote:
My husband and I are considering Lake Elsinore as one of our relocation choices. Any thoughts out there on crime, neighborhoods, lifestyles and people in general? Give it to me straight and don't hold back--tell me the good, the bad, and the ugly.
I agree if you want a city that has preserved it's small town appeal this is the place. If you are moving with young children I would look into charter school as opposed to LEUSD as my son was promoted to Middle School with his math ability under 4th grade level. For five years I asked for testing from the school Ms. Slane would refuse saying that his star testing scores didn't justify holding him back or for testing. This was and is a direct voilaton of student and parent rights under the education codes that I will be addressing through the courts. There is a geat deal of Bulling in the schools even at the elementary school level. Not all the teachers are bad there is a small handfull that are teaching for the love of teaching and a big handfull that are only there to earn a paycheck. Don't be fooled if you do not have the time to check daily on your students class and teacher dont inroll them in the LEUSD system.
My child is no longer in the LEUSD system and is actually progressing more than ever before. Our district has just pink slipped teachers with less than 9 years in our district but HIRED another administrator for the district office.
If you do buy in one of the nieghborhoods not listed in the other post you will find that we all watch out for one another and even gather for bar-b-ques just for fun. Not to mention they have no mellow rues or homeowner association fees on top of your morgage.
Yes 4 Change

Los Angeles, CA

#5 Apr 11, 2009
See - I seriously thing you're just an angry person. Nothing makes you happy and you complain about everything. Have a nice day, if you're capable.
My 2 cents wrote:
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I agree if you want a city that has preserved it's small town appeal this is the place. If you are moving with young children I would look into charter school as opposed to LEUSD as my son was promoted to Middle School with his math ability under 4th grade level. For five years I asked for testing from the school Ms. Slane would refuse saying that his star testing scores didn't justify holding him back or for testing. This was and is a direct voilaton of student and parent rights under the education codes that I will be addressing through the courts. There is a geat deal of Bulling in the schools even at the elementary school level. Not all the teachers are bad there is a small handfull that are teaching for the love of teaching and a big handfull that are only there to earn a paycheck. Don't be fooled if you do not have the time to check daily on your students class and teacher dont inroll them in the LEUSD system.
My child is no longer in the LEUSD system and is actually progressing more than ever before. Our district has just pink slipped teachers with less than 9 years in our district but HIRED another administrator for the district office.
If you do buy in one of the nieghborhoods not listed in the other post you will find that we all watch out for one another and even gather for bar-b-ques just for fun. Not to mention they have no mellow rues or homeowner association fees on top of your morgage.
Renee Cummings

Corona, CA

#6 Apr 12, 2009
Weaffectchange:

Let me apologize for those long time residents of L.E. who are in the midst of a oppossition with a development that is slated to go on Lake/Mountain - that seem to write a few sentances about the good of the city - but then write paragraphs about how bad it is.I think fear of change has dominated some harsh personal feelings about L.E.

The schools are top notch in our area. As far as bullies are concerned - I work with Jr. High Kids in a youth group - they can be scandelous at times that for sure!! LOL!! They tend to be a little on the name calling side - but so can some adults. Kids are kids - but if you talk to your child and help them to deal with issues that they are going to have to learn to deal with say at a Jr. High level - than they will be fine. Besides, if you look at schools like Terra Cotta, their API is 799. 800 is the goal for California public schools - you don't have API scores like that and have a bad schools or problems with bullies and or gangs.

There is great things are happening in L.E. and again - a great place to live - get in on the change now!!
My 2 cents

Irvine, CA

#7 Apr 14, 2009
Renee Cummings wrote:
Weaffectchange:
Let me apologize for those long time residents of L.E. who are in the midst of a oppossition with a development that is slated to go on Lake/Mountain - that seem to write a few sentances about the good of the city - but then write paragraphs about how bad it is.I think fear of change has dominated some harsh personal feelings about L.E.
The schools are top notch in our area. As far as bullies are concerned - I work with Jr. High Kids in a youth group - they can be scandelous at times that for sure!! LOL!! They tend to be a little on the name calling side - but so can some adults. Kids are kids - but if you talk to your child and help them to deal with issues that they are going to have to learn to deal with say at a Jr. High level - than they will be fine. Besides, if you look at schools like Terra Cotta, their API is 799. 800 is the goal for California public schools - you don't have API scores like that and have a bad schools or problems with bullies and or gangs.
There is great things are happening in L.E. and again - a great place to live - get in on the change now!!
I am so sorry not all of the students are raised in church families and not all of them even have parents that are involved, check for yourself some would say I am against everything that is so far from wrong. I just want anyone coming into this city this is not a sanctuary under a rainbow, we continue to pray for our cities residents to take pride in a town with deep historical roots, some good some bad. Facts are facts and you try to explain to an elementary school child why the same kids continue harassing them year after year. Do move here get invovled in the postive aspects of this precious town. Who knows you buy in my niehgborhood you just might find that the older nieghborhoods are going through a cleansing or purging of all that is negitive. We just dont like being told we dont know what is good for us. I bought here first for the surrounding nature and then because when Riverside County is at full build out this city is right in the middle of half way to everywhere. This alone will secure the future of our housing market. Just move in with full discloser, that's all. Me personally I dont like pushy people but that is my only peeve that and people believing thier money makes thier opinions more important than mine.
My 2 cents

Irvine, CA

#8 Apr 14, 2009
Regarding Fear did you know that in the Bible it says 365 times "fear not" I love this fact given from the LORD. In GODs love is perfect love and perfect love driveth out all fear. So please don't say I fear I don't and I know that no weapon formed against me shall prosper. I also know that if I have a seed of faith the size of a mustard seed I can say to a mountain move and it will crumble to the sea. I have spoke to the mountain I am just waiting patiently by waiting for it to crumble. If GOD is for me then who can be against me. Trust me I pray to Yaweh seeking his perfect will in the matter of the market place therefore I Fear not. I have asked him to bind here in this city those things he has bound in heaven. Just remember the words of Proverbs Pride cometh before the fall.
weaffectchange

AOL

#9 Apr 14, 2009
My 2 Cents, faith and facts are always a good thing. However, how we, as human beings, choose to affect bad or good in this world according to our own personal beliefs and dependent upon our own personal experiences can sometimes be selfish. Your pride oozes a bit in assuming that your views should be everyone elses' too. Choose to affect good in your community with your views.
Renee Cummings

Corona, CA

#10 Apr 14, 2009
weaffectchange wrote:
My 2 Cents, faith and facts are always a good thing. However, how we, as human beings, choose to affect bad or good in this world according to our own personal beliefs and dependent upon our own personal experiences can sometimes be selfish. Your pride oozes a bit in assuming that your views should be everyone elses' too. Choose to affect good in your community with your views.
WEAFFECTCHANGE - I like thse comments in respect to the fact that we affect change. You are so right on.

May I share? In Lee Iacoca's book ~ Where Have All The Leaders Gone - Lee Iacocca basically stated that you need to see and accept change because it's a part of life. He added that you can track the success or failure of a nation in the world based on how they accepted change.

Look at our economy right now - talk about change - wow! But I believe that it takes not just a government to help turn it around - it's going to take a nation pulling together. I see this exact same thing transpiring in L.E. I have seen how city council - is embracing change - taking it and turning into a very positive force in the city. Call me overally excited I suppose - but I sure as heck want to jump on that train - not off. And I want my kids to know that their city needs their positive involvement - there is life outside of their cell phones, iPods and cable. LOL!!

Good night WEAFFECTCHANGE.
LEMOM

Moreno Valley, CA

#11 Apr 15, 2009
Lake Elsinore is a great place to live and raise your family in a small town enviroment. I have three kids and we have nothing but fun! There are skate parks, parks, the lake , baseball fields, our own baseball stadium, community centers, extreme sports, bowling alley & arcade, movie theater,shopping centers. And so much more to come. The Lake Cleanup has been outstanding and even reported in the paper as one of the hot spots for fishing and recreation. This town has came a long way in the 13 years since I've been here. It is a hidden treasure, but like all areas you have your new and old. Stay close to the Northshore, Canyon Hill's, Alberhill, Tuscanny Hills. All those neighboring schools are pretty good. My kids all went to Temescal Canyon High, Terra Cotta Middle,and Rice Canyon Elementry. Loved them all!
BAC

AOL

#12 Apr 15, 2009
I have nothing but praise for the school district, I think they do a great job. L.E> is certianly a diamond in the rough.

Since: Apr 09

Sherman Oaks, CA

#13 Apr 16, 2009
I also believe the school district has done a decent job out here. I believe all the high schools make the grade. But, since the middle schools and elementary schools are a bit more region specific, they address the needs of the students that attend.

Take Rice Canyon Elementary or Tuscany Hills Elementary for instance. These schools have excellent rankings. But these schools do not have to deal with as many non-english speaking students as some of the other schools in the district. That issue has the unfortunate affect on the school as a whole.

It's not the teachers, it's not the district. It's just life.

Weaffectchange, you wanted a pro vs. con on the city. I should've mentioned that I love this town! I love the people here. I am frustrated that when you look closer you recognize certain inequities, but that exists in every system. My intent was to give good and bad. I hope you feel I gave you an honest assessment.

Stick with the neighborhoods I mentioned in my first post, ignore the local politics and you will love Lake Elsinore.=)
weaffectchange

AOL

#14 Apr 16, 2009
LE Lex, thank you. Yes, we indeed want to hear it all and appreciate the local input. Thanks for pointing out the neighborhoods that are desirable. My elderly father-in-law will be living with us and it's imperative that he be able to safely take his walks in the neighborhood we choose. We hope to hear more from the Lake Elsinore residents since it is very helpful. We like that the LE residents seem to have a voice, for community involvement starts with people who choose to make and try to keep their communties good. We are coming from a lake community in Michigan and also enjoy the small town feel, low crime rates and the environment.

Since: Apr 09

Sherman Oaks, CA

#15 Apr 18, 2009
One of our council members, Amy Bhutta, is from Michigan.
Charles

Moreno Valley, CA

#16 Apr 25, 2009
I moved from Long Beach 4 years ago and love it out here. The lake is a major draw for me as I ski on it twice a week every week. It's a little slow here but great for the kids. The air is some of the cleanest around, rarely have smoggy days. The cities master plan is very impressive for the development of downtowm. If this devepment happens that should be great for local property values. How many cities have a water feature, only makes sense to have great things hapen here...
karmangal

Plymouth, MN

#17 Apr 28, 2009
I love Lake Elsinore...I moved here from Orange County 5 years ago and, except for the commute to Santa Ana, would do it all over again in a heartbeat. Folks are nice, there's no strip malls on every corner, and you feel like you live in the country! Lake Elsinore is very a very under-rated town.
alberhill ranch resident

Corona, CA

#18 Apr 29, 2009
I currently live in Lake Elsinor in the Alberhill Ranch community.
I dont know why people are saying its a bad place.
My daugther goes to the local elementary and the teachers are grate there. We have been living here for the past 4 years. The only thing that hit us hard was that the house prices went down. I guess that is good for people that are planning on buying a house here. But i have no complains. The community is nice and quiet and you have all the nececities you will need. and i am for them building the new Fresh n Easy aroundt he corner. This is a good place to move into and a great city that is only getting bigger and pretty central to SD, OC, LA, SB countys.
LakeLife4me

Pacific Palisades, CA

#19 Apr 29, 2009
I LOVE our vacation home in Lake Elsinore! My husband thought it would be a great investment for us to purchase a home in Elsinore and then rent it out on Verb. Well its been two years and he has'nt been able to get me out of it yet. I love the street we live on I have the BEST NEIGHBORS in the world! These people are the most fun, loving, helpful, trusting and giving people Ive ever met!I spend 4-5 nights a week there and I never miss a weekend!
LakeLife4me

Pacific Palisades, CA

#20 Apr 30, 2009
I hope and pray that Lake Elsinore does not become like the valley "Moreno Valley"! We have a home in both cities and travel back and forth to Moreno Valley every week.Moreno Valley is too over populated and that brings alot of trouble. I love the way Lake Elsinore is now a calm cities filled with respectable people.

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