Heads up Lake City/ Rocky Top
ummm

La Follette, TN

#61 Nov 15, 2013
Humbled wrote:
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Thank You Bobby.$35 a month is what I get from Lake City, after Big Brother gets his share, for my 20-30 hours a week I put into it. It's not glamorous, it's demanding, it's not popular, it can be rewarding though, if we are successful together. Sometimes I have all day meetings and a lot of behind the scenes work. There is a city council or governing body so one single person cannot pave a disastrous way for the city. If we fail its because we all failed. I have had more sleepless nights than I can count and still do as I think about how we can make our town a better place to work, live and visit. I don't claim to have all the answers and demand to be better tomorrow than I was today. We are problem solvers of every kind and plan to see new revenues coming into the city because of what has transpired with the Rocky Top proposal. People may not understand why or how this is all going to happen and that's ok. Change is not easy, big or small. However, we will see jobs, new businesses, and opportunities coming into town soon. We will be able to afford the things that we need to pay for and pay our employees fair wages for all their hard work someday soon. If I didn't believe in this "proposal" and didn't think it was going to be successful for Lake City, I wouldn't have voted for the name change. Greater thing are yet to come.
Which council member are you?I'll gadly get this out on several social networks as a statement for you, if you are indeed an actual council member. Did I mention the Pope is my uncle? It is easy to pretend to be someone on here. If you are a council member, newflash.. all those things that you described are your job, so stop looking for a pat on the back.
Did anyone notice that the news finally reported that the bottling company has only been open since April of this year. Yeah, real successful. What other businesses have these men run for any length of time?
Just thought I would share this little story.. I was Christmas shopping and had a shirt that referenced Lake City on it. A woman from Coalfield mentioned Rocky Top, and nearly laughed in my face at it. Her exact words were that it was silly. That is the general opinion of most people who are looking at this from the outside, including all of my colleagues. I don't believe that any people from out of town are trolling our topix forum to voice support. Those people are probably from Lake City or very nearby.
What happens, happens though. I have tried to raise awareness of its flaws. I will continue to try. In fact, I'm going to meet with a friend of mine who is a business planner to look more closely at costs, land etc., for our town. It would help if the council wasn't almost secretive and released their plans to the public.
Just remember people if this continues and fails or isn't what you expected or wanted who passed it and vote them out. I'm not against change or bettering our town, but I just sinerely believe this isn't what we need.
hello

La Follette, TN

#62 Nov 15, 2013
ummm wrote:
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Which council member are you?I'll gadly get this out on several social networks as a statement for you, if you are indeed an actual council member. Did I mention the Pope is my uncle? It is easy to pretend to be someone on here. If you are a council member, newflash.. all those things that you described are your job, so stop looking for a pat on the back.
Did anyone notice that the news finally reported that the bottling company has only been open since April of this year. Yeah, real successful. What other businesses have these men run for any length of time?
Just thought I would share this little story.. I was Christmas shopping and had a shirt that referenced Lake City on it. A woman from Coalfield mentioned Rocky Top, and nearly laughed in my face at it. Her exact words were that it was silly. That is the general opinion of most people who are looking at this from the outside, including all of my colleagues. I don't believe that any people from out of town are trolling our topix forum to voice support. Those people are probably from Lake City or very nearby.
What happens, happens though. I have tried to raise awareness of its flaws. I will continue to try. In fact, I'm going to meet with a friend of mine who is a business planner to look more closely at costs, land etc., for our town. It would help if the council wasn't almost secretive and released their plans to the public.
Just remember people if this continues and fails or isn't what you expected or wanted who passed it and vote them out. I'm not against change or bettering our town, but I just sinerely believe this isn't what we need.
True, it does seem shady that they have not released any business plans to the general public. True, people are mocking the city, like the general asshats they are, and I say asshats because these people that can laugh at a town that is on the verge of collapse are asshat douches. True, these guys that are backing the plan haven't been in business too long. Valid points, all.

But let's step it in the direction the town is heading in. What exactly would you have proposed for the town, since you are coming off arrogantly as an all knowing person? Please lay out on this forum a set of business plans, figures, costs, etc. that you would have done specifically for the failing town known as Lake City. Please meet with your business partner and lay the plans out for us.

And once again, before you berate me and say I'm a pain pill popping, welfare ridden person, I will have you know that I am myself, a struggling college student, that is trying to put myself through school working a dead end job in Lake City because I sure as hell don't want to commute to Knoxville unless I can move over there. You may possibly have YOUR degree, but some of us haven't quite made it there yet. Some of us would really welcome the changes that this could cause for the town itself, either good or bad, because either way, it's going to make the town grow. And my major is Business Administration and I just finished Business 101 last semester, so I have just an inkling of what I am talking about.

As long as the investors for this project have some sort of plan, have investors, can round up investors, and can build at least a few attractions, then something should come of it. The water bottling company may have only been in business for a year, but it's a business, the owner is an investor and the company doesn't seem on the verge of collapse anytime soon. I'm sure when Dolly Parton bought out Sliver Dollar City back in the day, people laughed at her. Now look what she has done with the park and the growth created. Things can change here if people let them. I'm so tired of hearing the negativity from people about this project.
East Tennessee

Knoxville, TN

#63 Nov 16, 2013
Dolly Parton is a brilliant, beautiful, amazingly talented woman who makes East Tennessee proud. This Rocky Top guy is just a two-bit shyster trying to run a scam on a hick town. You might as well compare Bill Gates to Fred Sanford. Well, that's not quite fair, at least Fred Sanford was honest.
hello

La Follette, TN

#64 Nov 16, 2013
East Tennessee wrote:
Dolly Parton is a brilliant, beautiful, amazingly talented woman who makes East Tennessee proud. This Rocky Top guy is just a two-bit shyster trying to run a scam on a hick town. You might as well compare Bill Gates to Fred Sanford. Well, that's not quite fair, at least Fred Sanford was honest.
Two bit shyster or not, he has investors. You can move mountains with wealthy investors. It's just not ONE person doing this. From my understanding, there are at least 5 investors that I know of and they are all wealthy. At least wealthy to this area. So I still don't see the viewpoint that it's just one person trying to swindle the city. It's more than one person doing this. And to compare Dolly Parton to this guy may not be a fair comparison on a personal level, but they both had the same idea. Turn nothing into something.
Rocky Top Supporter

Clinton, TN

#65 Nov 17, 2013
hello wrote:
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True, it does seem shady that they have not released any business plans to the general public. True, people are mocking the city, like the general asshats they are, and I say asshats because these people that can laugh at a town that is on the verge of collapse are asshat douches. True, these guys that are backing the plan haven't been in business too long. Valid points, all.
But let's step it in the direction the town is heading in. What exactly would you have proposed for the town, since you are coming off arrogantly as an all knowing person? Please lay out on this forum a set of business plans, figures, costs, etc. that you would have done specifically for the failing town known as Lake City. Please meet with your business partner and lay the plans out for us.
And once again, before you berate me and say I'm a pain pill popping, welfare ridden person, I will have you know that I am myself, a struggling college student, that is trying to put myself through school working a dead end job in Lake City because I sure as hell don't want to commute to Knoxville unless I can move over there. You may possibly have YOUR degree, but some of us haven't quite made it there yet. Some of us would really welcome the changes that this could cause for the town itself, either good or bad, because either way, it's going to make the town grow. And my major is Business Administration and I just finished Business 101 last semester, so I have just an inkling of what I am talking about.
As long as the investors for this project have some sort of plan, have investors, can round up investors, and can build at least a few attractions, then something should come of it. The water bottling company may have only been in business for a year, but it's a business, the owner is an investor and the company doesn't seem on the verge of collapse anytime soon. I'm sure when Dolly Parton bought out Sliver Dollar City back in the day, people laughed at her. Now look what she has done with the park and the growth created. Things can change here if people let them. I'm so tired of hearing the negativity from people about this project.
I would have to say that I totally agree with this young adult. Ummm keeps barking, but no solid plan as to what should be done. You keep asking him or her and they state it is not their job to solve the problems. That was the answer I received when I asked them on this forum. Hey now they are going to ask a business person to help? What a crock. Arrogant yes. More intelligent than the young lady or man studying business in college? No way. Keep believing in yourself. I applaud that you are getting your degree and working hard. You have to have a dream before it can become reality. Most people with average or above average intelligence think the same way you do. Don't let them get you down.

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#66 Nov 17, 2013
they dont give out business plans cause either they dont have a plan or there crooks ether way lake city will be a laufing stock mroe than it already is
mr mggoo

Knoxville, TN

#67 Nov 17, 2013
deadpull wrote:
they dont give out business plans cause either they dont have a plan or there crooks ether way lake city will be a laufing stock mroe than it already is
if u was at the meeting on nov 1st u would had seen the plans dumbass if u wasnt 12 years and could drive maybe u could went and seen the plans im sure if u want to see a copy of the plans any city offical would be happy to show u or contact tim isabell he will be happy to inform u and show u any plan u want to see about rocky top tn coming jan 2014
silver lining

Caryville, TN

#68 Nov 17, 2013
well hopefully if it does get built it will run the middle school drop out junkies like 'mr mggoo' back up into the mountains. one can always hope :)
Laughing hard

La Follette, TN

#70 Nov 18, 2013
Seems to me that if anyone has driven through the town of Lake City they will see addicts pill-heads and unemployed alcoholics. Most likely 80 percent collect social security checks for fraudulent doctor prescriptions now how do you think tourists will be dealing with that? Most of the homes are below adequate living conditions. If anyone had any sense they would see that's a lost cause.
Regent

Lake City, TN

#71 Nov 18, 2013
I agree Lake City needs to do something if they want to ever be more than what they are now. However, this approach is drastic. A little too drastic. This has been triggering my spidey-sense ever since I first heard of it.

There used to be an old scam to snatch up properties that were about to become real expensive due to growth. Some place like a gas station or convenience store would convince some homeowner that their land was worth 20x more than what they thought it was worth and talk about how they'd write them a check for it if they wanted to sale, trying to bait them with greed. But before they went to sell they'd have an accountant contact the homeowner and say that a cut of the profits would be MUCH more valuable over a couple of years because the place was going to make soooo much money. So they'd ask for that instead. In the end they'd get some paltry sum and a promise of a cut of the revenue of the gas station/convenience store. It'd even be in a contract.

Then the new owners build a nightclub on it instead of a gas station/convenience store, and don't owe the old owners anything except for the small lump sum payment that might not even cover the value of the land.

So watch, they'll end up doing all this negotiation and then building the next Bank of America HQ here and reaping their 0% taxes.
spot on

Caryville, TN

#72 Nov 18, 2013
^^^^ exactly, for exception that scam is not so old. It's very much alive and well present day. Besides that, it's not as if those even just glancing at LC, let alone research their demographic (which is the first thing development corps do), come away from it thinking or feeling "Oh look, bright people!"

Same with CC, so don't feel bad LC. CC's just jealous. LOL
Musterion

Clinton, TN

#73 Nov 19, 2013
Catfish wrote:
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Coal Creek changed its name to Lake City in the 1950's. They thought that would fix its problems but the place was still a dump. Now they're going to change the name of Lake City, and they think that will fix its problems. Remind me again, what is the definition of insanity?
Name was changed in 1939 in hopes of drawing in tourists from the newly completed Norris Dam. Yes it worked Lake City thrived for a lot of years. Trouble was the novelty wore off.
Okay

Knoxville, TN

#74 Nov 19, 2013
ummm wrote:
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Which council member are you?I'll gadly get this out on several social networks as a statement for you, if you are indeed an actual council member. Did I mention the Pope is my uncle? It is easy to pretend to be someone on here. If you are a council member, newflash.. all those things that you described are your job, so stop looking for a pat on the back.
Did anyone notice that the news finally reported that the bottling company has only been open since April of this year. Yeah, real successful. What other businesses have these men run for any length of time?
Just thought I would share this little story.. I was Christmas shopping and had a shirt that referenced Lake City on it. A woman from Coalfield mentioned Rocky Top, and nearly laughed in my face at it. Her exact words were that it was silly. That is the general opinion of most people who are looking at this from the outside, including all of my colleagues. I don't believe that any people from out of town are trolling our topix forum to voice support. Those people are probably from Lake City or very nearby.
What happens, happens though. I have tried to raise awareness of its flaws. I will continue to try. In fact, I'm going to meet with a friend of mine who is a business planner to look more closely at costs, land etc., for our town. It would help if the council wasn't almost secretive and released their plans to the public.
Just remember people if this continues and fails or isn't what you expected or wanted who passed it and vote them out. I'm not against change or bettering our town, but I just sinerely believe this isn't what we need.
Okay Austin we hear you loud and clear.
to regent

Caryville, TN

#75 Nov 19, 2013
yep. look at atlantic city nj. casino hotels finally got in there with promises of improving the area and sure brought a LOT of jobs to the area and tourists of course TONS of money, but look at the residential properties around them - absolute trash ghettos worse then before they got there which were ghetto for years much like LC. this sounds like the same 'deal'.
danny pa

Denver, NC

#76 Nov 19, 2013
I'm a pill head looking for a quick score hav foodstamps to trade .
hello

La Follette, TN

#77 Nov 19, 2013
Regardless of the negative comments and the skepticisms of a few people on here that are not obviously from Lake City or don't work in Lake City, this project is happening. The council voted the name change, and more than likely the name will pass through the state soon.

As for everyone saying that there will be pill heads on every corner, obviously you don't know about redevelopment. When these projects start getting built up, land owners are going to start selling out. I've noticed quite a few houses already have for sale signs in the yards and the name change hasn't even passed officially. When land owners sell those old, tired, run down houses they are renting out to trash, that trash has to leave. There will more than likely be an exodus of trash leaving the city.

Good riddance is all I can say, because we don't want the trash anymore. As for land grabbing, have you seen some of the properties around here? Run down houses? Houses with rusted out junk in the front yards. These obviously are not 200,000-300,000 dollar properties. A lot of people would be lucky to get a decent buyout for these properties.

It's really a moot point to argue about it. The town council sealed the deal and all the citizens of the town can do now is wait and see if anything pans out from it. Even if these developers buy up all this land and sit on it, at least the city gets the taxes. So already that's a win for the city at least.
mr mggoo

Knoxville, TN

#78 Nov 19, 2013
ummm wrote:
That's a beautiful speech Rocky Top Supporter. Once again here you are promising our demise if we don't accept this deal without offering solutions or even acknowledging real problems with the proposal. I'm glad to read other people have concerns about the proposal. Obviously Lake City doesn't have enough room for this without gutting out existing businesses and homes, and they are probably counting/ hopig on surrounding citites and county to get on board. No these won't be high paying jobs for men to support their families on. Yes certain politicians stand to make a buck if this goes through (probably the ones you see promoting it in the paper every week.) Yes, we do need change, however I firmly believe this isn't it. We can't compete with Sevierville. We will continue to be a rest stop. People aren't going to plan vacations here.
we are not and will not comptete with sevierville ..its not about competing with anyone its about saving lake shitty from its own demise and bringing back some hope to this now dead community not town as some ppl speak of ..its a done deal already ppl so why are u ppl coming on here and trying to stop it .. its now either join in or move and for anyone that didnt join in ur driving a steak in the heart of ur kids grandkids and thier future n lake city ...go rocky top home sweeet home to me !!!!
smh

Caryville, TN

#79 Nov 19, 2013
coming on here to stop it? like getting on topix is ...

are you really that stupid? stupid question right there lol. ppl just airing their opinions and reasons for their opinions about the subject dumbass. see this is why this 'deal' was so easily done. mighty safe bet you don't GET that either. no future in LC and never will be but for the POLITICIANS that shook hands for the deal selling YOU out dumbass. people don't want to join your Club Dumbass it's their choice and an intelligent one at that. Your poor kids, but that was inevitable with or without the change.
mr mggoo

Knoxville, TN

#80 Nov 19, 2013
smh wrote:
coming on here to stop it? like getting on topix is ...
are you really that stupid? stupid question right there lol. ppl just airing their opinions and reasons for their opinions about the subject dumbass. see this is why this 'deal' was so easily done. mighty safe bet you don't GET that either. no future in LC and never will be but for the POLITICIANS that shook hands for the deal selling YOU out dumbass. people don't want to join your Club Dumbass it's their choice and an intelligent one at that. Your poor kids, but that was inevitable with or without the change.
lol ok ill give u that dumber than dumbass......... but 98%of ppl is for this if u was at the meeting on nov 1st u would had seen that but of course u prob didnt go right prob had a visit at the food stamp office right lol out of a packed town meeting all but bout 6 ppl got up and was opposed to it guess what they wasnt even from lake city 3 was from up north 1 from gatlinburgh and 1 from virginia ..."the politicians" didnt decide anything the ppl of lake city came together and decided on it .. and hell ya if they want they can buy me out i live in the heart of lake city so being ur in the 2% miniorty on here and in lake city that opposes this clinton is just 10 mins away move ur welfare ass there go rocky top !!!!!!!!!!
hello

La Follette, TN

#81 Nov 19, 2013
For every idiot on here that keeps voicing their opinion that this won't work or that this is a shady deal, then here are a few links to examples of how small towns turned their fortunes around by thinking outside the narrow minded box...

http://news.msn.com/pop-culture/the-walking-d...

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/11/travel/comeback...

Paducah, Kentucky really stands out because back in the 1980s, it sounds very close to what Lake City is right now. Blighted and high crime rate. But after an initial high dollar investment, that town is alive again.

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