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#1 May 26, 2011
After reading the exchange on the May 21st prediction I would like for people to give their opinion on the JW's. I personally have talked to these people when they come to my door and they, in my opinion, don't preach true doctrine. I would like for other opinions. I have researched many of what they saya and feel that they are wrong in their interpretation of scripture. So please give your opinion.
#2 May 29, 2011
The more I read the Bible, The more I learn. It is not up to us to judge others. That is Gods job. I know people that are JW's. they are good people. I am a Christian, I just Pray for them. That is What we as Christians are supposed to do. Pray. Let God do the rest.
#3 May 30, 2011
If someone gives an opinion it isn't judging. Also it isn't judging if you see something that isn't right and you call attention to it. Christian's are supposed to stand up for God's word. The jw's wrote their own bible with words changed to make the meaning different. Look it up on the net. They made suttle changes that is hard to tell if you don't know your Bible. That is deceptive and wrong. That alone shows you that they are not what they should be.
I pray for them also. They need prayer. These are nice people that went to find a place to get close to God and are learning wrong doctorine.
God will do a work in them, but it is up to Christian's to try and show them the right path to be on.
What kind of christian would I be if I didn't try and show them what the word of God really says.
It breaks my heart to see anyone mislead.
I will always stand up for God's word. And any christian should also. I don't care how nice they talk or how informative they sound. truth is truth and they needs to be shown where they are going wrong for their own good.
#4 May 30, 2011
John 1:1 (King James Version)
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:1 new world translation.(jW's) bible says:
1In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god
They took God and turned Him into a god. Big G God into little g a god.
that is from their own bible. the bible that was rewritten by the watchtower association. It isnt the first bible they put out. it is given out by the jw's. just look at their offical websight. Their bible is on there. you can see the whole thing.
This is just ONE change in the Holy Bible.
I challange anyone to search, research and truly see just what is being taught by jw's.
#5 May 30, 2011
Organized religion, if they would all just practice what they preach, I have some in-laws that are JW's and they sure don't and to me that is worse than having no religion.
#6 May 30, 2011
You are right in so many ways. There are so many people that claim to be one religion or the other but you don't see it in them. If you are around someone for a period of time you can see the real deal from the fake. The people who truly love and are serving the Lord give off a light that is clearly seen.
There are different levels of it all. There are new believers that is still growing and learning and make mistakes. There are people that never take the time to learn and grow so they live a long time like a new believer. They get better as they grow but it a slow process.
The seasoned believer makes mistakes, but the mistakes are less and less and you can usually tell that they are trying to make any wrong right again.
It isn't all cut and dry. But you can find any answer in the Bible.
#7 May 30, 2011
There will be one flock and one shepherd.” John 10:16
#8 May 31, 2011
john 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, an they shall hear my voice. and there shall be one fold and one sheppard.
This is talking about the gentiles who will be saved later. READ EPH 2:11-22 EPH Is great scripture that makes john 10:16 clear
you can't go by one small piece of scripture. There are many passages in the Bible that go together to make God's mean clear.
What meaning were you trying to convey with John 10:16??????
#10 May 31, 2011
Regarding Jehovah's Witnesses' "New World Translation" Bible and its rendering of John 1:1, it may interest you to know that, in support and explanation of their wording of this verse (especially within the third clause with "a god"), there is soon to be published a 19+ year study (as of 5/2011), a thoroughly researched reference work - an historical analysis & exhaustive annotated bibliography - it will be entitled, "What About John 1:1?"
To learn more of its design and expected release date, you are invited to visit:
When finally published, apart from discussing many of the other topics and scriptures often related to the man-made Trinity doctrine, you will also discover that we have collected information on about 430+ scholarly reference works (mostly Trinitarian) which, throughout the centuries, had opted to say something other than, "and the Word was God," and that, included among them are over 120 which had chosen to use "a god" within the third clause of their renderings.
As you might expect, we are very excited at the opportunity to share our findings with others.
#11 May 31, 2011
God the father, God the son, God the Holy Spirit....
Those scriptures refering to God as the father, the son and the holy spirit is in the Bible. Trinity, the word itself, might not be in the Bible. but Trinity is refering to God in those three terms. God is the father, the son and the holy spirit.
God is God. God will always be God. and God will always come first in my life.
I don't have to go to any websight. I don't have to ask any 430+ scholarly reference works, I go to the Bible. It is never wrong. I don't even read books put out by Christian scholars. I depend on God's word.
I could go all through your websight and I would still stand firm on God's word.
My prayer for you is that you have accepted Jesus and asked Him into your heart. That is the first step in seeing everything that God has in store for you.
I looked at the jw's websight. I saw all the laws and rules and regulations that they have for you. How sad is it that you can't be free to live your life. All the can'ts are weights that bound you.
#12 May 31, 2011
What I don't understand is why the jw's put out a changed bible other than to distort the truth. That wasn't necessary. There are many cults out there that use the Holy Bible to milead their followers. why did the jw's feel it necessary to do that?
I have such a burden for the jw's followers. They are good people that are searching for God and they get what???????
I could never follow a list of rules. Why not be able to vote, go to a church yard sale, and let your kids play on a sports team. And that is just a sample of what you can't do.
Isn't all those rules exhausting? It would be for me.
I am so sad for you.
#13 May 31, 2011
1. Its Jehovah, which is Gods name. Research and learn.
2. watchtower.org nor jw.org have a list of rules and these are the only two websites Jehovah's people use, which indicates you are either a liar or do not comprehend what you are reading.
3. Jehovah and Jesus are two different people. They are a father and a son. They are not equal. Even Jesus said while he was on earth that we are not to worship him, only the Father. Trinity is a
false teaching from the father of the lie (satan).
4. Don't feel sad for anyone, we feel for you. You are out trying to degrade others and their religion. You really should be careful talking about others like that. It makes you look bad and it is NOT christ like.
#14 May 31, 2011
LOL you need to read your Bible. I will put up scripture if you need it.
I haven't tried to degrade anyone. I have studied out jw's religion to see what they teach. I am not sitting here blind to what you preach.
And the Bible clearly states, God the father, God the son, and God the Holy spirit. LOOK IT UP
It is all in the Bible. God's word.
I not only have seen the lists of what you can't do, the jw's that have come to the doors will tell you.
I don't look bad at all. I stand on what the Bible says. I can back up anything I say with Scripture. and I will if need be. But if you take the time to look up scripture it is all there. In black and white. And most Bibles have Jesus' words in red.
I will ask a direct question, yet you won't answer. Why is that?
I will continue to pray for you guys. It is burdeon I have carried for years for you guys.
Dear God, I am planting a seed here and I pray that you grow it. I want these people to see and hear your words. Lead them to YOUR word God. It is all in the Bible. Your word. Help them oh Lord. In Jesus name I pray AMEN
#15 May 31, 2011
To clarify, I may not have seen the list on the offical jw's websight but i have seen it. though the fist time i seen it was a while ago.
but it is true. you have insane rules to live by.
I am not a liar. I may have misspoke on that issue but i am clearing that up.
I know that you have very strict rules.
I am asking you to clarify that to me. Do you have a lot of rules? I know of over a 100 that you live by. Or have to live by.
I have already been told by a jw. I would like to hear it from you here. You called me a liar. so clarify.
I will post that list if need be.
#16 May 31, 2011
You know what. I am being led by God to just hush and let Him do His job.
I only wish the best for you all. May you see what God intends for you to see.
God loves you. I love you in Jesus and I pray for your happiness.
good luck in life. If you need more from me then ask. I will be more than glad to explain anything or get someone who knows more than me and explain anything better to come in and chat.
#17 May 31, 2011
So post the website where you have seen them. You can't because there is no list of rules. Jehovahs people adhere strictly to the bible. There are no man made rules. I don't care what you think you know, I do know because I'm one of JWs. So please stop, you sound ridiculous.
The trinity is false. Look up the scriptures listed and then tell me how you deny Gods word.
Col. 1:15,16-God had no begining but jesus WAS created.
Mark 13:32-no one knows the hour, not the son, only the father. Two different beings.
Matt 20:20-23 how is jesus sitting at Gods right hand if they are ONE?
Matt 12:31,32 they are 3 separate things
Johm 14:28- jesus said the father is greater than he is
1 cor 11:3 God is head of jesus as your husband is of you. Are you and your husband ONE person? NOPE!!!
Matt 16:16 jesus is Gods son- and when he was baptized Gods voice came from heaven and said this is my son. How could ONE speak from heaven and be on earth?
John 17:3- God sent jesus forth. One being can't go two different ways.
And my personal favorite- mark 10:18- jesus said don't call him good, cuz only one is good-the father. They are separate.
Now, I doubt you will even look these up because you aren't interested in learning, only telling others what to do. BUT, if you reply with why you disagree, do so with scriptures as I have done, and give us plenty to prove your point as I have done. And remember, the bible does not contradict itself. Im looking forward to seeing some sound concrete scriptures to prove the trinity. Any reasonable, thinking person who wanted to learn about God could these and see they are not one individual, jesus and God are two.
#18 May 31, 2011
If you didn't see it on an offical website, why would you just believe it? That is insane. You are basing your hated for something based on lies you've read else where? Lol wow. I've heard it all now.
#19 May 31, 2011
jw's have said it. told of some of the laws you have to live by. and i have seen the lists of rules you have.....
i am getting up scripture. I will post scripture as soon as i gather it.
why do your own tell of the rules they have to follow if they arent real.
i can put them out here if you like.
i am wondering if you will admit it if i do.
so gathering scripture as i can. i didnt have it all written down so it might take me the evening but i will.
when you say i am not interesting in learning just know that i am interested in learning. learning the truth. that is why the Bible is my rock.
Jesus and God are now 2. I never said they werent.. But, oh. i will get scritpture
#20 May 31, 2011
john 10:30 jesus states. I am my father are one.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word WAS god.
then down in John 1: 14 the word was made flesh, and dwelt with us.
that means the flesh was Jesus.
those are only 2. but it is Jesus' own words.
I am not looking for scripture that is clear on the holy Ghost or the holy spirit, which ever you choose to call him, is God.
all the scripture that talks about it is refering to God, but i am trying to find the best of the best.
and through all this i have talked pretty badly when all i have tried to do is shed some light on all this.
I care about you guys.
now answer me.
can you vote? can you get a blood transfusion? Can you go to a church yard sale? these are just 3 of the rules you have to follow. am I wrong?
#21 May 31, 2011
typo. that is I and my father are one.
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