Ohio AG Dept. & State's Top Cop Sued For Food Co-Op Raid

Jan 7, 2009 | Posted by: GAPatriot65 | Full story: www.newswithviews.com

NWV News, Sarah Foster --

Itís been over a month since a team of 10, heavily armed sheriff deputies, at the behest of county and state agencies, conducted an aggressive mid-day, search-and-seize raid of the home of John and Jacqueline Stowers, owners of an organic food co-op called Manna Storehouse in LaGrange, Ohio -- and tore their world apart.

The couple has not yet been charged with a crime, but they donít have to wait to become defendants in a trial -- theyíre the plaintiffs in a court action launched by two advocacy groups on their behalf.

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<quoted text>He does do one hell of a job representing the people in his district.
I listen to many Hearings on C-Span. Whenever he is holding the floor, there is some truth.

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Thanks, friend. I, like you, am a conservative Constitutionalist.
Don't get me started on the bailouts.......
Nice title, no truth in it.

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You are welcome!
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Two wackatutionists on one thread. I can't stand it!LOL!

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<quoted text>I am from BC. I live in Central Ohio. There is a lot of crack smoking going on in Ohio. I'm not one.
Can you make a list?
Yes, there is a lot of crack smoking going on in Central Ohio. If you are not smoking yourself, then you obviously have a contact high as you are a liberal.

Remember, just because you hang out at Easton Mall does not mean you have money. Same goes for Tuttle Crossing. But if you stay on 23, you will be in Kentucky soon.

Make a list of what? See, this is where that contact high has you all turned around. You must communicate completely and clearly.

Although, once I had lunch at the Buckeye Sports Cafe and met Jerry Springer there. That should tell you everything you need to know about Columbus.

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Yes, there is a lot of crack smoking going on in Central Ohio. If you are not smoking yourself, then you obviously have a contact high as you are a liberal.
Remember, just because you hang out at Easton Mall does not mean you have money. Same goes for Tuttle Crossing. But if you stay on 23, you will be in Kentucky soon.
Make a list of what? See, this is where that contact high has you all turned around. You must communicate completely and clearly.
Although, once I had lunch at the Buckeye Sports Cafe and met Jerry Springer there. That should tell you everything you need to know about Columbus.


Please give us a list of the claims you make about Rep. Kucinich.

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Please give us a list of the claims you make about Rep. Kucinich.
I am not going to list out over 30 years of his goofy insanity. You have Google, do it yourself.

I will post this recent link from Kucinich's website on his views of the Bailout, which,(if you are sitting down), I will tell you I agree with his view on this.

http://kucinich.us/index.php...

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I am not going to list out over 30 years of his goofy insanity. You have Google, do it yourself.
I will post this recent link from Kucinich's website on his views of the Bailout, which,(if you are sitting down), I will tell you I agree with his view on this.
http://kucinich.us/index.php...
I figured as much.Too bad, there isn't any validity to your claim. You make a statement you need to back it up with facts.You have no evidence. Just because you don't like him doesn't give you license to make crap up.
He is a little on the Goofy side sometimes. But there is no better representative in Congress. You would have been very well served as Kucinich as President.

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<quoted text>I figured as much.Too bad, there isn't any validity to your claim. You make a statement you need to back it up with facts.You have no evidence. Just because you don't like him doesn't give you license to make crap up.
He is a little on the Goofy side sometimes. But there is no better representative in Congress. You would have been very well served as Kucinich as President.
The facts regarding Kucinich's liberalism and goofiness have been documented for over 30 years. If you cannot find them, then you choose not to. Evidence of Kucinich's goofiness? You are his Press Agent, right? Don't lay that BS on me.

Kucinich would NOT make a good POTUS. He would look to give the farm away and drive the US toward Socialism. I believe he means well, and I appreciate that he looks to hold Congress accountable.

But the idea of Kucinich with access to nuclear missiles....please!

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The facts regarding Kucinich's liberalism and goofiness have been documented for over 30 years. If you cannot find them, then you choose not to. Evidence of Kucinich's goofiness? You are his Press Agent, right? Don't lay that BS on me.
Kucinich would NOT make a good POTUS. He would look to give the farm away and drive the US toward Socialism. I believe he means well, and I appreciate that he looks to hold Congress accountable.
But the idea of Kucinich with access to nuclear missiles....please!
What I called you on was this:

"I have watched that goof ball lie, cheat and steal his way into all sorts of nutty situations"

I wanted you to provide a list of the lies, the cheating and stealing. You can't because it doesn't exist. He is an honest man. Maybe you can't recognize honesty.

I noticed you changed your focus. You can only come up with goofy. Your current President is a big goof, a criminal and a lier, maybe that's who you were thinking about.

Your President elect is a smart man. Maybe he will be able to change America back to an honorable nation who's opinion is welcomed around the world.

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<quoted text>What I called you on was this:
"I have watched that goof ball lie, cheat and steal his way into all sorts of nutty situations"
I wanted you to provide a list of the lies, the cheating and stealing. You can't because it doesn't exist. He is an honest man. Maybe you can't recognize honesty.
I noticed you changed your focus. You can only come up with goofy. Your current President is a big goof, a criminal and a lier, maybe that's who you were thinking about.
Your President elect is a smart man. Maybe he will be able to change America back to an honorable nation who's opinion is welcomed around the world.
I can see why you would think I changed my focus on this. It is true.

Time is my most valuable asset and I only spend time on productive things, not people that are non-relevant like Kucinich.

Look, he must be your step dad or something (or maybe step mom). That is great. His lies are based in his self deception regarding his Socialistic beliefs.

I have already said I think he is honest. Deluded but honest.

Have a great day! I have issues to discuss.

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I can see why you would think I changed my focus on this. It is true.
Time is my most valuable asset and I only spend time on productive things, not people that are non-relevant like Kucinich.
Look, he must be your step dad or something (or maybe step mom). That is great. His lies are based in his self deception regarding his Socialistic beliefs.
I have already said I think he is honest. Deluded but honest.
Have a great day! I have issues to discuss.
OK, so you're just a partisan hack, who doesn't realize his own country was just brought to becoming the largest Socialist country in the world by the people who always go on against socialism, the GOP.
Forget Kucinich being a bit goofy, you are delusional.

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<quoted text>OK, so you're just a partisan hack, who doesn't realize his own country was just brought to becoming the largest Socialist country in the world by the people who always go on against socialism, the GOP.
Forget Kucinich being a bit goofy, you are delusional.
Me? A partisan hack? Your ignorance is only eclipsed by your arrogance.

You must be new here. I am quite aware of what Bush and this Congress has perpetrated against the American people.

Have a great day...stroke away to your poster of Kucinich.

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Me? A partisan hack? Your ignorance is only eclipsed by your arrogance.
You must be new here. I am quite aware of what Bush and this Congress has perpetrated against the American people.
Have a great day...stroke away to your poster of Kucinich.
Well then, you should be grateful to Kucinich and his perpetual stand against Bush and his crony Administration and all who blindly follow the GOP.

You pissed me off with your blanket accusations against Kusinich, for which you couldn't defend. I am not new. I just call people on their stupidity. I'm surprised you aren't familiar with me, it seems you might be stupid.

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<quoted text>Well then, you should be grateful to Kucinich and his perpetual stand against Bush and his crony Administration and all who blindly follow the GOP.
You pissed me off with your blanket accusations against Kusinich, for which you couldn't defend. I am not new. I just call people on their stupidity. I'm surprised you aren't familiar with me, it seems you might be stupid.
Because I am not familiar with you, I am stupid? Um, that just makesy you incredibly arrogant.

Bush and his cronies? You mean people like Pelosi, Reid, Fwank, Kennedy, Boxer and the like? Yup, Bush's cronies.

You and I are alike in one area, we both see a desperate need for change, radical change, in Washington. We we seem to disagree on how to get there; you espouse socialism (government control), I believe in Freedom coupled with honesty, integrity and self-control.

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Because I am not familiar with you, I am stupid? Um, that just makesy you incredibly arrogant.
Bush and his cronies? You mean people like Pelosi, Reid, Fwank, Kennedy, Boxer and the like? Yup, Bush's cronies.
You and I are alike in one area, we both see a desperate need for change, radical change, in Washington. We we seem to disagree on how to get there; you espouse socialism (government control), I believe in Freedom coupled with honesty, integrity and self-control.
In America you can't get freedom coupled with honesty, integrity and self control. I am not for or against socialism. there are so many degrees of it. Capitalism coupled with reasonable regulation and a couple of socialized programs would suit me fine.for example, I have experienced a single payer Medical plan(it is not socialized medicine), it is much superior to what we have here.

Kucinich advocated removing the USA from participating in NAFTA and the World Bank by executive order. He also spelled out why. If you want his reasoning, I can find it.He reads what he signs and supports.

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Because I am not familiar with you, I am stupid? Um, that just makesy you incredibly arrogant.
Bush and his cronies? You mean people like Pelosi, Reid, Fwank, Kennedy, Boxer and the like? Yup, Bush's cronies.
You and I are alike in one area, we both see a desperate need for change, radical change, in Washington. We we seem to disagree on how to get there; you espouse socialism (government control), I believe in Freedom coupled with honesty, integrity and self-control.
What I was saying was surprised I hadn't called you on some other post, maybe we haven't been on the same thread yet.
I am somewhat arrogant at times. Most people are that way are in private.I am the same way in private and in public.Though, I am not afraid to admit I'm wrong and apologize for my mistakes.

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I totally understand. I am arrogant at times myself (just ask my wife, she will tell you!). I am the same no matter who is around (except, my wife tells me sometimes I slip into "professor mode").

I appreciate your viewpoint and, like I said, don't think we are too far from each other.

I admire Kucinich's passion and tenacity. I even agree with some of his stances.

I don't with some of his other positions. That is ok.

I like that you have backbone and come back to discuss issues. I tip my hat to you for that.
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<quoted text>What I was saying was surprised I hadn't called you on some other post, maybe we haven't been on the same thread yet.
I am somewhat arrogant at times. Most people are that way are in private.I am the same way in private and in public.Though, I am not afraid to admit I'm wrong and apologize for my mistakes.

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I do agree with Kucinich's stances you post here.

I desperately want to believe that there are some honest men and women of integrity that see a value in slowly building businesses that employ more people and provide jobs and sustinence to the community rather than get their $10M dollar bonus by cutting people and shipping jobs overseas.

Maybe I am, as John Lennon once wrote, "...just a dreamer...".
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<quoted text>In America you can't get freedom coupled with honesty, integrity and self control. I am not for or against socialism. there are so many degrees of it. Capitalism coupled with reasonable regulation and a couple of socialized programs would suit me fine.for example, I have experienced a single payer Medical plan(it is not socialized medicine), it is much superior to what we have here.
Kucinich advocated removing the USA from participating in NAFTA and the World Bank by executive order. He also spelled out why. If you want his reasoning, I can find it.He reads what he signs and supports.

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I totally understand. I am arrogant at times myself (just ask my wife, she will tell you!). I am the same no matter who is around (except, my wife tells me sometimes I slip into "professor mode").
I appreciate your viewpoint and, like I said, don't think we are too far from each other.
I admire Kucinich's passion and tenacity. I even agree with some of his stances.
I don't with some of his other positions. That is ok.
I like that you have backbone and come back to discuss issues. I tip my hat to you for that.
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Sorry I got off on the wrong foot. I misunderstood your position and went after you.

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<quoted text>Sorry I got off on the wrong foot. I misunderstood your position and went after you.
I seem to have gotten off on the wrong foot as well. I apologize.

One of the curses of me is sometimes I am typing at too many too fast and my mind has not finished "dealing with the last one" even though I am typing to someone else.

Today, however, has been a relaxing day. A day of catch up and calling old friends. Always a nice way to spend the day.

And, a day of learning. As a result of our conversation, I did read more about Kucinich's stand on issues via his website. While I got a more in depth view of his stances, I think the percentages remain pretty close on my original agree/disagree ratio.

Regardless, as a result of that, THANK YOU!

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