County officials reject tax hike blame

County officials reject tax hike blame

There are 130 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Aug 20, 2007, titled County officials reject tax hike blame. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

Commissioners from five Indiana counties grappling with high property taxes say they're tired of Gov.

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Frugal

Indianapolis, IN

#1 Aug 20, 2007
imagine local government officials denying they are responsible for THEIR OVERSPENDING. These people make me sick! It is the fault of local governments and school boards that property takes are excessive.
BUD

Ellettsville, IN

#2 Aug 20, 2007
that aint my man mitch.so vote or shut up ..
Moving out

Indianapolis, IN

#3 Aug 20, 2007
Frugal wrote:
imagine local government officials denying they are responsible for THEIR OVERSPENDING. These people make me sick! It is the fault of local governments and school boards that property takes are excessive.
Exactly... I couldn't even believe the headline. Property taxes are EXCLUSIVELY a local political issue.
Jack Atwell

Fishers, IN

#4 Aug 20, 2007
Having these whiners on a panel to solve the problem would be like asking the fox how to guard the chicken house. These people are the problem.

Aside from that, the Democrats have convinced most of their people that the government was formed for the sole purpose of giving them something. They have failed to come to the realization that the government has no money other than the money it confiscate from taxpayers..We have already passed the point where, in many cases, the people vote for people they think will give themselves the biggest take from the government. Thus, the explanation for anyone voting for U. S. Congresswoman, Julia Carson, State Senator, Patrick Bauer, or, Sweet Pea Gray on the City-County Council in Marion County.

These are prime examples of people whose primary backers are slackers, people who, for the most part, are non-taxpayers and people who contribute very little financially to the government. But they are first in line with both hands out for any and all government programs that might give them another excuse for being non-productive.

Let's start by not allowing anyone on welfare to vote or run for any public office.
Senior

Indianapolis, IN

#5 Aug 20, 2007
Brand-spankin' new school palaces aren't cheep.
Also Frugal

United States

#6 Aug 20, 2007
I agree totally! The local spending in our area is out of control. Just because this is a small area of prosperity because of the orthopedic industry, that doesn't mean those of us on fixed incomes are able to keep up with the increases. Let's get our state legislators to find a more fair way to collect tax monies. I can't help but believe that increased income tax or increased sales tax would be much better than property tax.
Too Much Govt

Indianapolis, IN

#7 Aug 20, 2007
Local Govt would support increased taxes as long as they got to spend them?!- what a shocker!

When you bozos decide you'll support spending cuts give us a call - until then please SHUT UP
john sinalin

Severn, MD

#8 Aug 20, 2007
Both the county officials and the governor are responsible for their out of control spending but neither will take the blame.
Patsy

River Falls, WI

#9 Aug 20, 2007
Frugal wrote:
imagine local government officials denying they are responsible for THEIR OVERSPENDING. These people make me sick! It is the fault of local governments and school boards that property takes are excessive.
This is why not only our tax system needs to be reformed by our government, we need to vote new people into our local offices and need to have term limits, so they don't get overly confident in their controling positions.
Must be Up for Election

Indianapolis, IN

#11 Aug 20, 2007
Must be some northern Commissioners up for re-election> They surely are trying to cover their behinds and using the the Governor as the sacpegoat. Guess they figure they can blame him easily over the toll-road deal in their area.
Idiots must not have been happy with the lagre lump sum payments they got with th Toll Road Lease.
Don't pay much attention to them. I jknow most of them and they don't much more than how to get a free lunch out of a county vendor.
Average Joe

Midland, MI

#12 Aug 20, 2007
Over 99% of the property tax goes back to the local government, so if the spending is not there responsibility then whose is it?

Reduce spending - this can be accomplished by eliminating the various layers of government, without harming the services provided.

Look at the services being provided - are all the services really legally required via the constitution, or are some just "nice to have" items that impact only a select few? If so eliminate these, or make the users of the services pay.

So many taxes, so much waste!
look em in the eye

AOL

#13 Aug 20, 2007
Moving out wrote:
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Exactly... I couldn't even believe the headline. Property taxes are EXCLUSIVELY a local political issue.
To the contrary! They are ALL responsible. Please don't pick and choose your favorites among the well practiced fingers pointers.

The locals are spending too much, and the governor signed the budget. Nobody forced him to do it, or told him if he didn't, he couldn't make goofy motorcycle rides.

NOBODY gets a free ride on this debacle.
DAWG

United States

#14 Aug 20, 2007
Local Government spending IS out of control. Just look arround.

and

Local government should and needs to be part of the solution.

Everyone needs to quit slamming the other and focus on correcting the problem.

If society wants spending to stay at current levels then thats fine, but it does have to be paid for. If it is for local issues, then it will be paid for either through property taxes, income taxes or sales taxes. But it will be paid for by the LOCAL GOVERNMENTS and their constiuents.

There is no free ride. Take a drive arround and look at the spending at your local level.

New Schools, New Libraries, New Parks, New Firestations, New Roundabouts, New Recreation Facilities. Who do you think is paying for these local expenditures and how do you think they are getting their funding?

Local government is paying for them and it is being paid for through debt created by pledging your future property taxes.

Wake up and be part of the solution and don't just bash the other people and add to the problem.
txpayer33

Indianapolis, IN

#15 Aug 20, 2007
Frugal wrote:
imagine local government officials denying they are responsible for THEIR OVERSPENDING. These people make me sick! It is the fault of local governments and school boards that property takes are excessive.
I am sorry but you are not quite correct. Sure the Assessors are responsible for assessing properties..and may times they mis-calculate assessed values. However...ordered by the LEGISLATIVE...the assessor's were to look at sales disclosures for homes that were sold in the years 2002-2005. Inputed the information into spreadsheets that DLGF created and calculated numbers.

Then, the assessor's gave their figures and sales disclosures to the DLGF and then the DLGF inputed the information (again) then the calculations were created for new assessments for each home/property and if changes were made, they were done at that time.

Finally, the numbers were approved by "Your Man Mitch" and our legislative members.

Many of the county/township assessor's office asked the DLGF to make a "mock run" before they did it to make sure it was right, but they decided against it.

Remember, the DLGF staff is "buddies" with Mitch, so Mitch isn't going to blame the ones that are in charge of government financing, he will blame the county/township officials that he wants to get rid of so he can contract in the services.

The bad thing about all of this is Mitch Daniels is coming out of this smelling like a rose. He appointed the DLGF staff just like many of the other head state offices (Education/BMV/etc...

In Marion County, he is just wanting to make Greg Bowes the "head assessor" and in reality, he knows nothing about assessing property. Greg Bowes is a "suit" and Mitch Daniels is a "liar".

Don't you think that Mitch does a lot of motorcycle riding, when he should be in his office taking care of the states real problems? Also, how can you trust a Governor that attends the ABATE rally in Lawrence County yearly. A rally that consists of extensive drug use, male and female nudity, and public littering!!!

I think it is time to Ditch not only Mitch, but the entire system. Assessors are needed to assess property, but should not be held responsible for orders that are given to them by our Governor and elected repsresentatives
individual

San Jose, CA

#16 Aug 20, 2007
These five county officials are bristling not over being called inefficient tax-and-spend practitioners but because they've been ommitted from a committee that includes the lacks of Joe Kernan. Talk about an insult!

Here's hoping every incumbent to an elected office in Indiana is voted out next election day. If not, the mandarins in government will continue:
1. to increase the 'tax take'
2. to add yet more layers of bureaucrats to the existing horde
3. wastefully spend taxpayers monies on politically correct ideology.

Remember every whine from the five county officials in this article are done at taxpayers expense. And they'll continue to line their own pockets until voters get rid of them.
uh huh

Duncan, OK

#17 Aug 20, 2007
Patsy wrote:
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This is why not only our tax system needs to be reformed by our government, we need to vote new people into our local offices and need to have term limits, so they don't get overly confident in their controling positions.
...and include those darned, good for nothing Legislators. If they were looking out for their constituents, they would have been on this situation already. But NO!!
They were more worried about their payraise and gay rights!
lafguy60

Cincinnati, OH

#18 Aug 20, 2007
Was the governor's office was responsible for the assessments and trending? No it was the township assessors who argue, at least when it is suggested that the township level of government is redundent, that they are the closest level of government to the people and they know their local conditions better than any one else. So, I'm having a hard time seeing how the state is at fault here. The county officials at every level have got to face the fact that the cash cow known as property tax is likely to be greatly modified and they have to get their spending under control.
lafguy60

Cincinnati, OH

#19 Aug 20, 2007
Property taxes do not fund state government. Please check your facts.
look em in the eye wrote:
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To the contrary! They are ALL responsible. Please don't pick and choose your favorites among the well practiced fingers pointers.
The locals are spending too much, and the governor signed the budget. Nobody forced him to do it, or told him if he didn't, he couldn't make goofy motorcycle rides.
NOBODY gets a free ride on this debacle.
uh huh

Duncan, OK

#20 Aug 20, 2007
They are building a fancy new bridge down the road from where I live. I am glad it's a nice one as I may have to live under it someday.
The Vision

Indianapolis, IN

#21 Aug 20, 2007
[quote who=article states]
St. Joseph County Commissioner Steve Ross argued that sales taxes are regressive in that they are harder on struggling young families and those residents on fixed incomes.[/quote]

Sales taxes are not regressive. Actually, they may be progressive, as food is exempt from sales tax, and those with lower incomes spend a larger portion of their income on food.

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