Doctor office drug tests and pill counts
lmao

Scottsville, KY

#21 Mar 7, 2011
lmao looks like MCGH has their panties in a double twisted knot
MCGH intern

Westmoreland, TN

#22 Mar 7, 2011
lmao wrote:
lmao looks like MCGH has their panties in a double twisted knot
Nooo...not really..I just get pissed that people do not read a post in it's entirety before making a comment..and then also the "inturd" reference to my name made by the uneducated inbred poster "clueless" was not necessary.

Since: Aug 10

Lafayette, TN

#23 Mar 7, 2011
justme wrote:
New law. If you test positive for any illegal substance then you are barred from being able to get a prescription for any and all schedule drugs. Too many junkies out there getting dope on our Tenncare dollars and taking and selling it then attempting to file a false police report about "someone stole my dope" then getting another prescript. Fortunately no police department or sheriff's office will fill out a "stolen drugs" report any more Without that report you can't get a rescript so to the junkies I say HA HA. About time the state did something about this.
What ever happened to the patient's bill of rights to pain medication to relieve suffering?

http://www.nationalpainfoundation.org/article...

It used to be a "right", but I don't see it as a part of the legislated "Patient's Bill of Rights"...

Patients have a right to proper, respectful, informed and nondiscriminatory pain management and care.

Patients have a right to choose and access health care providers who can provide proper, respectful, informed and nondiscriminatory pain management and care.

Patients have a right to have their pain managed with collaborative and multidisciplinary efforts.

Patients have a right to have their questions and concerns about pain and pain treatments addressed.

Patients have a right to ask for and receive a referral to a pain management specialist.

Patients have a right to receive accurate and understandable information about their pain, their health, their diagnosis, their prognosis, their treatment, their health care providers and the facilities in which they receive treatment.

Patients have the right to receive knowledge and information about all pain treatment options available to them before giving informed consent.

Patients have the right to participate in their pain treatment decisions. If patients cannot fully participate in their pain treatment decisions, patients have the right to be represented by conservators including family members and/or guardians.

Patients have the right to make informed decisions about their pain treatment.

Patients have the right to speak confidentially with their health care providers about their pain conditions and concerns; however, the privacy of this information can be compromised in certain situations such as a workers' compensation claim.

Patients have a right to have their pain and the conditions that cause their pain examined regularly and their treatments adjusted for continued or improved pain management.

Patients have the right to read and make copies of their health information, pain history and relevant records.

Patients have the right to ask their health care provider to amend or correct any information (both pain-related and not) in their health records with the understanding that a health care provider cannot change an original report.

Patients have the right to refuse suggested methods of pain treatment.

Patients have the right to have their pain-related medical bills and costs explained to them.

Patients have the right to complain about or appeal issues related to their pain treatment, health plans, health care personnel and health care facilities.

Patients have the right to objective and timely internal and external reviews of any complaint or appeal related to their pain treatment, health plans, health care providers and health care facilities.

Since: Aug 10

Lafayette, TN

#24 Mar 7, 2011
The government is the culprit - trafficking the illegal substances and getting the people hooked on drugs. Then they target the people they've ensnared and hang them out to dry.
justme

Westmoreland, TN

#25 Mar 8, 2011
SCOTS-GIRL
What about the taxpayer's rights? I should have the right to not have my Tenncare taxes go to fund brain-dead dopeheads prescriptions so they can sell on the black market. If Dr's were in fear of loosing their license that they went to school for 12 years to get, then maybe they wouldn't be so "free" with their p;rescription pads.
As far as rights, the only rights guarenteed are those in the Bill of Rights of the US Constitution. The last time I read it I couldn't find any mention whatsoever for Oxycontin, Valium, Hydrocodone, or any other "bartering" drug. The organization you quote have no authority to grant rights whatsoever so therefor there are no rights granted by them. Just a little something they put on paper that Drs. voluntarily abide by. The law trumps so-called "patients rights".

Since: Aug 10

Lafayette, TN

#26 Mar 10, 2011
justme wrote:
SCOTS-GIRL
What about the taxpayer's rights? I should have the right to not have my Tenncare taxes go to fund brain-dead dopeheads prescriptions so they can sell on the black market. If Dr's were in fear of loosing their license that they went to school for 12 years to get, then maybe they wouldn't be so "free" with their p;rescription pads.
As far as rights, the only rights guarenteed are those in the Bill of Rights of the US Constitution. The last time I read it I couldn't find any mention whatsoever for Oxycontin, Valium, Hydrocodone, or any other "bartering" drug. The organization you quote have no authority to grant rights whatsoever so therefor there are no rights granted by them. Just a little something they put on paper that Drs. voluntarily abide by. The law trumps so-called "patients rights".
I don't disagree with a lot of what you've said. I do see the other side of it, and DOCTORS themselves have posted the "Patient's Bill of Rights" in their offices, but we know that they really don't practice that way. You don't dare "look" like you're a pain med seeker or you will be written off, even if you're NOT! I had this happen to a friend of mine and it was really sad. Doctors have the upper hand and patients are basically "wards". You don't dare take control over your treatment plan or ask too many questions or they will betray you in the records. I spent a great deal of my life ordering and reading medical records, and I've seen what a self-protective doctor will do - that is: betray the patient. All the doctor has to do is write one thing and the patient is SOL.

So, I tend to agree with the poster about "pill counting" as being abusive. I try to do as much NATURALLY as I can to minimize my contact with the demons in the medical field. Not every allopathic caregiver is demonized, but there are a great deal of them and I'd just as soon stay out of their grasp unless absolutely necessary. They are the ones that get the people drug-addicted and then they enjoy the power trip. Let's not forget the Hippocratic oath - they are a bunch of Greco-Roman pagans who believe that they themselves are gods.
just worried bout ya

Lafayette, TN

#27 Apr 9, 2011
old patient ky bartric wrote:
I went this ky bartcic 4 my 3rd time and when i went back the lady ask me do you know they tried to call you for a pill count last week and they told me what day which they were lieing i have a caller id that records up to a month worth of impotant phone numbers that one to be percise,she said that he would probably dismiss me ,but why i asked noone didnt talk to me personally to let me know i have a ansewring machine and a voicemail.i got no call i did get a call the day before and when i tried to call back 3 times the fax picked up because they decided to call me on the fax line i showed them i tried to call back on my cell .now do you kbnow the doctor cut me off for missing a phone call, is that leagal people do have lives they do step out of the house if it were important why didnt they try back the next dai i gave them 5 contact numbers i ask the doctor y he was doing this i didnt get the phone call because if i did i woulda gladdlt come in i ask him does he ever miss a call y did i get dismissed for a call i never recieved never had a phone conversation how is that poss,if they spoke to me and told me i had to come in that woulda been differnt.right but im no dammmmmmmmmm pyscic how did i know which that place is a joke over 80 % of the patients are talking about selling there dope and where to meet them one girl said that she got percoet 15s and 30s whith no mri and they cut me off and i had papers,seems like they were trying to get rid of alot of people it was 200 people in there u couldnt even breath and they look at me and say were sorry they didnt even give me my full prescrption. how can they do that make u sighn a paper saying i broke contract when i never evennnnnnn got a callllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllll
Just read what you wrote :) Sorry but something is clear because your writing is not.
mer2

Westmoreland, TN

#28 Apr 10, 2011
I think they should all have pill counts...alot of people on pain meds. will get a prescription filled and take them all in about 5 or 6 days for the high...and we pay for it...it would surprise you to know how many people in Lafayette are prescribed hydro every month...probably 1 in 4 and that is a pathetic practice for our so called doctors....give them a stinking tylenol and they will quit gettin high hopefuly on our tax dollars....
SoTiredOfTheSyst em

Raleigh, NC

#29 Apr 27, 2011
No... pill counts have nothing to do with cutting into the drug selling business. Clueless is right. Doctors use this as a tactic to drop medicaid patients who are consuming too much of their time for the ridiculously low payment they receive from Medicaid. Most of you think of this as a "you must be doing something wrong if you are worried about it" situation. Its not that at all. Just as old patient ky bartric said, they will say they called and you are held responsible whether you received the call or not. They also only give you one hour to come in for a pill count.... This has happened to my girlfriend several times over the years. And because she has no car and lives in the country, she cannot possibly make it there in time. I've taken them in for her like that after I got off work, but it was at like 4:30 in the afternoon and they had called at 9 am. This was 2 weeks before her appointment. They saw here for her next appointment on a Friday. Her refill was due on the next Tuesday. When she went to get the refill, they had to contact the doctor and he said she was 7 hours late for pill count, even though she had explained to them the transportation situation and told them I was bringing them in for her after work. They told her that would be fine. But on this day, almost 3 weeks after the pill count was the first time they told her they were dropping her and not refilling her prescription. Why then, did they let her come to her appointment on that Friday and not tell her then, or call her right after the pill count so she could have time to find another doctor. She is on a large dosage because she broke her back and then refractured it at a later time. She cannot go without pain medicine for even a day. Yet they dropped her and I had to take off work to try finding her another doctor at the last minute. She had to go through seven excruciatingly painful days in the meantime. All she could do was lay in bed and moan and groan both because of the pain and the withdrawals. On top of that, when she gets cut off on that med, a possible side effect of not having it can be seizures if you don't wean off of it slowly.
I've been so pissed off ever since, I can't stand what they've done to her, with no regard to how it affects patients at all.
Vanessa

Elizabethton, TN

#30 May 3, 2011
It's every were. overdose on prescription pills has bypassed overdose on illegal drugs. And approx 80%+ people are getting them from family members.
m boxer

United States

#31 Jun 11, 2011
how far along into your script will the doc call for a pill count?? atleast half rite????
Insider

Scottsville, KY

#32 Jun 20, 2011
You have no idea what the ones in healthcare have to deal with. We all have licenses at stake. We have to go through audits. If we are doing things wrong, filling peoples RX's early we have to repay or pay fines to the state because of these actions. No one outside of this area has any idea or cares what we have to deal with. People will lie to get what they want and you then you get so used to that you become hardened, kinda like the boy who cried wolf. We do care about our patients, but we have to do it the legal way to protect our jobs and lively hood for our families.
Nurse

Lafayette, TN

#33 Jun 20, 2011
If people take their meds as prescribed they wouldn't have to worry about a pill count!!!

Stop selling them and problems solved!!

It's going manditory Dr's office have the right to call patients in and do drug tests to check their levels and make sure they are taking all their meds as prescribed.

Tncare fraud will end here!
ifunowhatidid

United States

#34 Jun 21, 2011
Tn care fraud won't stop because of pill counts- if they won't keep up with how many prescriptions that they pay for - what makes you think they'll track pill counts.This is just a ploy to distract from what the real problems are.Before Tn care if you was a drug addict you at least had to buy your own now state pays for their fix
hmm

Maple Grove, MN

#35 Mar 22, 2012
Totally random my dr wanted to do a drug test which was fine. Is it for crack, herion, cocain or pain meds and my anxiety medicine? Can they tell which ones specifically (pain meds) or is it just an opiod and benzos?
FYI

Lafayette, TN

#36 Mar 22, 2012
hmm wrote:
Totally random my dr wanted to do a drug test which was fine. Is it for crack, herion, cocain or pain meds and my anxiety medicine? Can they tell which ones specifically (pain meds) or is it just an opiod and benzos?
They can tell you everything you have taken and to the amount you have taken. They have it broken down to the amount in your system. If you don't take it as prescribed your screwed! They told me it breaks the law and I could go to jail and be reported.

P.S.
take your meds because they will bust you!
just me

United States

#38 Mar 28, 2012
I have a sister in another state that uses a Pain management clinic. They do a drug screen on her every time. If she doesnt have enough they think she may be selling them. if she has too much they think she may be abusing them.
If your taking your meds as prescribed then whats the worry.
Interesting

Cassville, GA

#40 Mar 28, 2012
Pardon my indicating it's the second link, it's the last link topix admin seems to find so very offensive and censor worthy.
Interesting

Cassville, GA

#41 Mar 28, 2012
and also.......surprise debtor arrests and incarcerations have allegedly taken place in Tennessee too.....

I know for sure several industries here choose to hand off anything they can to powerful collection lobbiest after any civil statutes have run out, and then try and get you criminally jammed up using many means that completely ignore your rights to due process.

Tennessee is really bad about that if you're not in the club....... the due process thing anyhow.
WILL LAWYER TAKE CASE

Lexington, KY

#42 Oct 15, 2013
HAHAHA wrote:
Well she must be doing something wrong or they would not be doing that!!!!
really ell mine did and the count as right.And they did not even count all of my medications,I take then hen I said something then she counted some more but did not write total down.I could see if I did not pass my urine test but I did every time I go to get my medication I would have to give urine,

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