Man jailed on accusation of beating girlfriend's son, 4

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An eastern Indiana man is accused of beating his girlfriend's 4-year-old son because the boy urinated his pants.

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concerned citizen

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Aug 28, 2011
 
Many possible things could of happened dude could of just whooped him and the mother could of got mad. But then he could of been like these other mfrs and cant hit a man and was mad for some reason and took it out on the poor little kid. I am a proud father of a 2yr old girl and i am against people that beat their kids. To me there is a line between correcting your kids and punishing your kids. Be a grown up and put your feet down people thats why our society is the way it is today cause parents being scared of their children.
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Aug 28, 2011
 
He did not beat this child. He popped him on the butt with a belt.Left a small bruise.The Mother did not call the police!! The next door neighbor did when the Grandfather came over and beat up Caleb!! All charges were dropped and case dismissed!! The CPS were even involved and said this was complete bullcrap!! Caleb loves this child more then life.Granted you can not whip your children anymore and he was wrong for whipping him but he has raised this child since he was in diapers! The Child calls him Daddy and loves him very much!He DID NOT beat this child!!
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The man used a weapon on a four-year-old! He left bruises! This IS abuse. If someone ever hit my kid with a weapon and left a bruise, there wouldn't be a need to call the police! I hope the boy's birth father administers a bit of southern justice when the step-father gets out of jail! I would pay to watch!
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Dude,Go crawl back under your rock.We don't need your comments as you are an AHOLE as it seems!!!
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The man used a weapon on a four-year-old! He left bruises! This IS abuse. If someone ever hit my kid with a weapon and left a bruise, there wouldn't be a need to call the police! I hope the boy's birth father administers a bit of southern justice when the step-father gets out of jail! I would pay to watch!
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that's what is wrong with the kids now days they need a good old fashion ass whipping i have raised 2 boys and when they needed a whiping they got it they are grown today and im proud to say they have not been in any kind of trouble with the law and are very good young men so i think more people should whip some ass then maybe there wouldn't be all these worthless,disrespecting young people with no values
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The little boy peed in his pants. Yeah, it is frustrating, but hardly worth hitting a child so hard that it leaves bruises! The step-father lost control of himself and was hitting the kid because he lost his temper, not because the little boy had an accident.

I do not believe that step-parents should discipline their step-children. That is the birth parent's duty. I also do not believe that it is necessary to use weapons on very small children.

Not once did I say that I am against spanking. In fact, I swatted my own child's bottom more than once in her childhood. But only for real offenses and I didn't use a weapon. And I am the birth parent. I think the law sees this issue the same way as I do. This dude is going to be doing some time.
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The charges were DISMISSED!!!! He did not beat his Child!!!
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It is not HIS child. I guess he lucked out. I hope he learned something from it and doesn't mess with little kids again. Next time he might not be so lucky.
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Since when is a belt a weapon??? Then I was "batterd" with switches and yard sticks and I do believe it made me a better human being!
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Since when is a belt a weapon??? Then I was "batterd" with switches and yard sticks and I do believe it made me a better human being!
A belt has always been a weapon and so are switches and yard sticks. A weapon is defined as anything that is used to inflict physical harm or to gain control over another. I am glad that you are happy that you were abused! I have heard about people who like that kind of thing. They even have special bars for people who enjoy giving and receiving pain. You should check into it. But I don't think the little boy in the article is like you.
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I had my legs switched plenty of times and it never killed me. In the 50's you could whip your child and bygolly it sure never hurt em any. Thank God for parents like mine who cared enough to steer you right. Alot of time those switches even drew blood. I loved my parents dearly. They also loved me.
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Pooh-Kitty wrote:
I had my legs switched plenty of times and it never killed me. In the 50's you could whip your child and bygolly it sure never hurt em any. Thank God for parents like mine who cared enough to steer you right. Alot of time those switches even drew blood. I loved my parents dearly. They also loved me.
They made you bleed because they LOVED you? That is messed up but whatever floats your boat! I sure am glad that no one ever LOVED me like that, I would call the cops!
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To "This IS Abuse":

Are you saying that parents should just let their children run amuck with no fear of consequence? I agree there is a difference between discipline and abuse. Even though I was never switched or had a belt taken to me (though it was threatened many times), my mother just flat out used her hand to spank me. Make all of the perverted, ignorant jokes you want but that's besides the point.

Look at the evidence;
50 years ago- Parents could discipline their children without fear of CPS getting called. Kids respected their elders and had chores. They knew the difference between right and wrong and understood responsibility.

Today- Kids do as they please because they know they can get away with it with no fear of retribution. They want to push the boundaries and see how much they CAN get away with. Kids are lazy, and fat because all they do is play video games and eat junk food. They have no respect at all especially to authority figures. A dear friend of mine is a school teacher and already this year a boy has smarted off to her saying "you're not the boss of me." well she very well is at least between 8am and 3pm.

I'm not saying you should beat your kids into oblivion. But sometimes putting a little fear behind them isn't a bad thing. If they know that all you're going to do is say "you shouldn't do that"... what's that going to do?
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I was never in favor of whipping my children with a belt or switch since it was done to me as a child. I can honestly say that by doing this, my parents only proved to me that they didn't care to communicate with me other than by physical force. With that said, I will admit that I did spank my kids when they deserved it, for example; biting another child or adult after being warned of the consequenses and given a time out for the first time.

I currently work with teenagers and parents. What I see that is different from the time I grew up in (50's) is the total lack of follow through by a parent who will give a child a consequence for inapproriate behavior. It appears to me that some of the parents of today are too quick to throw in the towel and say "I can't do anything with them." My answer is YOU CAN! It must start from the very begining. Kids have to know boundries and what happens to them when those boundries are crossed. This has to come from the parent. Don't expect our schools to teach them because it's a parent's responsibility to do so before the child begins school. If your child is having behavior issues in the school setting, make a apppointment with the teacher and then follow through at home with advice given. Your child will most certainly not tell you this but they DO want stability and boundries in their lives.
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To "This IS Abuse":
Are you saying that parents should just let their children run amuck with no fear of consequence? I agree there is a difference between discipline and abuse. Even though I was never switched or had a belt taken to me (though it was threatened many times), my mother just flat out used her hand to spank me. Make all of the perverted, ignorant jokes you want but that's besides the point.
Look at the evidence;
50 years ago- Parents could discipline their children without fear of CPS getting called. Kids respected their elders and had chores. They knew the difference between right and wrong and understood responsibility.
Today- Kids do as they please because they know they can get away with it with no fear of retribution. They want to push the boundaries and see how much they CAN get away with. Kids are lazy, and fat because all they do is play video games and eat junk food. They have no respect at all especially to authority figures. A dear friend of mine is a school teacher and already this year a boy has smarted off to her saying "you're not the boss of me." well she very well is at least between 8am and 3pm.
I'm not saying you should beat your kids into oblivion. But sometimes putting a little fear behind them isn't a bad thing. If they know that all you're going to do is say "you shouldn't do that"... what's that going to do?
James, I totally agree with you! This is what I have been trying to get across in my previous posts but no one seems to get it except for you. Of course we must discipline our children! Yes, they are getting totally out of control. A spanking on the bottom with a hand, grounding, time outs, taking things away--all are okay in my book. However, I do not believe we should hit them with a belt, switch, shoe, hair brush, fly swatter, ruler, paddle, etc. Those things are extreme! And I do think a four-year-old who pees in his/her pants, while frustrating for the adult in the situation, should not be a reason to spank. Sometimes kids have accidents because the misread their body's signals, or because their bladder muscles are not strong enough yet to hold it.

The little boy in the article peed his pants, and then was whipped with a belt hard enough that it left marks. I think this is too much. The punishment did not fit the crime, in my opinion.

Thank you very much for posting an intelligent post! That is pretty rare to find on here!
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OBJECTIVE OBSERVER wrote:
I was never in favor of whipping my children with a belt or switch since it was done to me as a child. I can honestly say that by doing this, my parents only proved to me that they didn't care to communicate with me other than by physical force. With that said, I will admit that I did spank my kids when they deserved it, for example; biting another child or adult after being warned of the consequenses and given a time out for the first time.
I currently work with teenagers and parents. What I see that is different from the time I grew up in (50's) is the total lack of follow through by a parent who will give a child a consequence for inapproriate behavior. It appears to me that some of the parents of today are too quick to throw in the towel and say "I can't do anything with them." My answer is YOU CAN! It must start from the very begining. Kids have to know boundries and what happens to them when those boundries are crossed. This has to come from the parent. Don't expect our schools to teach them because it's a parent's responsibility to do so before the child begins school. If your child is having behavior issues in the school setting, make a apppointment with the teacher and then follow through at home with advice given. Your child will most certainly not tell you this but they DO want stability and boundries in their lives.
EXACTLY!!! Wonderful post!

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Kids need the belt these days like in the old days, they have no respect for their elders this day in age! A big majority of parents dont teach their kids any morals, work ethic, or right and wrong anymore.
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My son is 3 going on 4 and hes gottn his fair share of butt whoopings,now would I whoop my child with a belt NO and if my fiance whooped him with one and left a mark he and his belongings would be on there way out the door.Now do I believe that my fiance isn't allowed to whoop him,he helps care for him and my sons not gonna sit bk and disrespect this man and me tell him he can't do anything about i,if he over done it or I felt like he was just being mean to my child like I said he would be gone....my child comes first and in no way will anybody hurt him or harm him in anyway,but a lil ol spanking on the butt with a hand isn't hurting anything....just my thought

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