Purdue to accept some Ivy Tech credits

[wrong name]

Debate the idea all you want -- discussion is good -- but let's get the name right: It's Ivy Tech Community College and has been for at least the last two years. Come on, AP. Come on, Star editors.

[Rob C]

Okk wrote:

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Let's not compare IUPUI and Ivy Tech. IUPUI is not a community college.

So? The quality of the classes is what counts, more than the quality of the institution as a whole. As long as the classes are thorough and cover the same level of material, I don't care if they were held in your parents' basement.

[Rob C]

PU Student wrote:

Great White, I believe the 35% rate that you're talking about is the CODO(Change Of Degree Objective)rate because kids that go to Purdue challenge theirselves with difficult majors and sometimes decide to switch. Being an engineering major I have witnessed this many times first hand.
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The other problem is that people go to Purdue falsely believing that they will be "taught". At Purdue (Schools of Science and Engineering, at least), you are more often told what to learn, then tested to see if you learned it. Very little actual "teaching" (interactive time between teachers and students) occurs, and is usually pawned off on the professor's underlings.

This is especially true at the lower levels (100- and 200-level courses). "Weed-out" courses thin the ranks to only those who are good self-learners. At higher levels, class sizes are more manageable, and the subject matter is a bit more advanced, so professors are willing to spend more face-time with their students.

[Bryan Maloney]

Purdue Student wrote:

Mandate? You mean the government wants my Purdue degree to be equivalent to one of those not-worth-the-paper-its-printe d-on Ivy Tech degrees?

You think some mere Purdue degree is really worth that much in a field such as elementary education or the other fields that Purdue will accept transfers for? If it's not ag/biosci/vetmed, CS, or engineering, Purdue is worth no more than Ivy Tech to begin with.

[Horrible]

Great, so now anyone can get a Purdue degree. It's unfair and ridiculous to think that Ivy Tech classes are equivalent to a Purdue class. Some people should just accept you don't have the credentials to get into the best schools.

[Purdue Alumnus]

I am a graduate of the School of Technology (now College of). I was at the West Lafayette campus all four years and I have a good job. I took an online Physics course through Ivy Tech while enrolled at West Lafayette so this is nothing new. As long as the transfers have to meet the same requirements as "Purdue" students then great. Not every good student has the money to go to Purdue all 4 (5, 6) years. And, they will still play catch-up to the students who didn't have to transfer.

P.S. OLS (my minor) is really easy so who cares.

[eee]

If this is the system that state leaders have decided to go to...(which i think is stupid) then IU and Purdue need to take all IVY Tech credits.

[Richard Ginn]

Rob C is 100% right.

Community college classes can be just as good as University classes and they are certainly cheaper.

[Purdue Student]

Rob C wrote:

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The other problem is that people go to Purdue falsely believing that they will be "taught". At Purdue (Schools of Science and Engineering, at least), you are more often told what to learn, then tested to see if you learned it. Very little actual "teaching" (interactive time between teachers and students) occurs, and is usually pawned off on the professor's underlings.
This is especially true at the lower levels (100- and 200-level courses). "Weed-out" courses thin the ranks to only those who are good self-learners. At higher levels, class sizes are more manageable, and the subject matter is a bit more advanced, so professors are willing to spend more face-time with their students.

I hear what you're saying. I attend Purdue at Kokomo. Most of the time I feel like I'm teaching the subject to myself and classes cost way too much to be doing that. They also don't seem to realize that not everybody can be a full-time student! Some students also work full-time and can only attend classes in the evening. Their way of scheduling classes makes earning a degree take longer.

[Purdue Student]

Purdue Alumnus wrote:

I am a graduate of the School of Technology (now College of). I was at the West Lafayette campus all four years and I have a good job. I took an online Physics course through Ivy Tech while enrolled at West Lafayette so this is nothing new. As long as the transfers have to meet the same requirements as "Purdue" students then great. Not every good student has the money to go to Purdue all 4 (5, 6) years. And, they will still play catch-up to the students who didn't have to transfer.
P.S. OLS (my minor) is really easy so who cares.

Is OLS as easy as everybody says? I'm thinking about giving it a try.

[Purdue Student]

eee wrote:

If this is the system that state leaders have decided to go to...(which i think is stupid) then IU and Purdue need to take all IVY Tech credits.

Yes!!! The two schools need to get together to make sure Ivy Tech offers engineering classes that are comparable to Purdue. That way engineering credits will transfer, too!! I wasted a bunch of time taking classes at Ivy Tech because Purdue would't accept the credits. Then I basically had to take the same classes over again when I started at Purdue. A lot of the material was exactly the same!!!

[Great White Juggernaut]

Horrible wrote:

Great, so now anyone can get a Purdue degree. It's unfair and ridiculous to think that Ivy Tech classes are equivalent to a Purdue class. Some people should just accept you don't have the credentials to get into the best schools.

Did you even read the article? Not all the classes, just some lower-level basic ones. I think this is great for people who don't have the time, credit, or ability to start at Purdue but want a degree from there.

[Bill]

I got my undergraduate and graduate degrees from Purdue University, West Lafayette. I've taken and/or taught courses at IUS, IPFW, and IUPUI, and I can guarantee that there is a world of difference between the satellite campus courses and the central campus. I shudder to think of the difference of classes outside the system.

Hell, I was in computer science at Purdue, and I know 2 people who transferred from CPT to CS (in West Lafayette) when they were sophomores. Almost NOTHING transferred, and that was within the same campus!!!

Taking classes at Purdue isn't just about the course work. In many cases (e.g., classes with a curve), it is about competing with the other students in your course. As an example, there is a world of difference between an freshmen calculus course (e.g., MA161) at Purdue and on other campuses.

[Purwho]

Purdue is just an Ivy Tech with a large campus anyway. It's only good for farming and engineering. This only seems like a match made in heaven.

[fred]

Purdue Student wrote:

Mandate? You mean the government wants my Purdue degree to be equivalent to one of those not-worth-the-paper-its-printe d-on Ivy Tech degrees?

This is a school of technology school of technology transfer. Purdue's technology degrees are just as bad as Ivy Tech's. Technology is for DA Hoosiers.

[Bite it Toothless Hoosier]

Purwho wrote:

Purdue is just an Ivy Tech with a large campus anyway. It's only good for farming and engineering. This only seems like a match made in heaven.

IU is just a school that produces crooked lawyers and rotten governors.

[Lafguy60]

eee wrote:

If this is the system that state leaders have decided to go to...(which i think is stupid) then IU and Purdue need to take all IVY Tech credits.

Almost every other state has a large community college or junior college system designed to feed the main campus of the state universities. The reason Indiana is so far behind the curve is that the major 4 year state universities convinced the legislature many years ago that them setting up satellite campuses was the best thing. A well run community college system can help contain the cost of higher education (look at the difference in salary for a Masters prepared faculty member between Ivy Tech and either PU or IU) and provide more residents the opportunity to obtain a post-secondary education.

[Hahaha]

Windbag elitists!

[PLDC]

the hell with purdue wrote:

up yours purdue

What was that for? The article is saying that any Ivy Tech Graduate that wants to continue their education can transfer their Ivy Tech credit that is equivalent to Purdue's credit. Everyone is entitle to further their education.

[PLDC]

Purdue Student wrote:

Mandate? You mean the government wants my Purdue degree to be equivalent to one of those not-worth-the-paper-its-printe d-on Ivy Tech degrees?

No, The government wants everyone to pursue any type of degree they wish. This is America "the land of opportunity" remember. Please go ask The Indiana Department of Education.