Purdue to accept some Ivy Tech credits

Ivy Tech State College students will be able to transfer credits to Purdue University's College of Technology starting this fall.

[the hell with purdue]

up yours purdue

[Purdue Student]

Mandate? You mean the government wants my Purdue degree to be equivalent to one of those not-worth-the-paper-its-printe d-on Ivy Tech degrees?

[I agree]

Purdue Student wrote:

Mandate? You mean the government wants my Purdue degree to be equivalent to one of those not-worth-the-paper-its-printe d-on Ivy Tech degrees?

I hate to sound arrogant...but I agree with the above statement

[suesam]

Not worth the paper it's printed on Ivy Tech degree's? One of those degrees got my son a job with NASA you fool. What did you get McDonald?

[Great White Juggernaut]

Purdue Student wrote:

Mandate? You mean the government wants my Purdue degree to be equivalent to one of those not-worth-the-paper-its-printe d-on Ivy Tech degrees?

Wow, for a liberal arts major you are taking this one a bit too rough. It's only half of the required credits, so kids who don't qualify out of college can now get started elsewhere and transfer in...at least at that point they will be serious about college...isn't the Purdue freshman drop out rate still close to 35%?

[James Gonzales-Meisler]

Purdue Student wrote:

Mandate? You mean the government wants my Purdue degree to be equivalent to one of those not-worth-the-paper-its-printe d-on Ivy Tech degrees?

No. That's not what it means, you idiot. It means that if you take classes at Ivy the credits will transfer to Purdue. They've been doing this for years. Most Universities have been doing this for years. It's common to take lower level Liberal Arts classes at a community college and then transfer to a larger school.

http://www.jamesmeisler.com

[PU Student]

Great White, I believe the 35% rate that you're talking about is the CODO(Change Of Degree Objective)rate because kids that go to Purdue challenge theirselves with difficult majors and sometimes decide to switch. Being an engineering major I have witnessed this many times first hand.

Great White Juggernaut wrote:

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Wow, for a liberal arts major you are taking this one a bit too rough. It's only half of the required credits, so kids who don't qualify out of college can now get started elsewhere and transfer in...at least at that point they will be serious about college...isn't the Purdue freshman drop out rate still close to 35%?

[hoosier_incident]

suesam wrote:

Not worth the paper it's printed on Ivy Tech degree's? One of those degrees got my son a job with NASA you fool. What did you get McDonald?

Cleaning up monkey poop from the testing cages hardly qualifies as a job at NASA....

[JTL]

Bad idea.

[Oscar]

I'm betting that Ivy Tech has more Teachers' Assistants (TAs) that speak English as a first language. My high school education at Carmel High School was better than what I received at Purdue simply because the people teaching the technical subjects like Calculus and Physics and Chemistry at Carmel spoke English.
Yes, I know the TAs must take an English test before they can teach classes, but it must be very simple because many of my TAs could not understand simple questions posed by their students. This did not apply to the professors, which were very knowlegeable, but to the people that have the most interaction with undergraduates - the TAs.

[Rob C]

I think it's a great idea, as long as the classes are equivalent. Some level of standards must be maintained to ensure that credited classes match up properly.

As a Purdue student in the mid-90's, I took summer classes at IUPUI. They were technically IU classes, though, so had to transfer back to Purdue, and many of them transferred at a lower level than expected (i.e. 3 semesters of German at IUPUI counted as 2 semesters at Purdue).

I would expect something similar with Ivy Tech, if their classes aren't equivalent. If they are, then I would expect them to transfer equally.

[Great White Juggernaut]

PU Student wrote:

Great White, I believe the 35% rate that you're talking about is the CODO(Change Of Degree Objective)rate because kids that go to Purdue challenge theirselves with difficult majors and sometimes decide to switch. Being an engineering major I have witnessed this many times first hand.
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Being an engineering gradaute, I saw more classmates drop out completely than change majors.

[Erik Jones]

TO be honest, you have no worries. Once the Ivy Tech transfer student gets to campus, they will be quickly running for the door. The academic gap is huge and will enter programs way behind. The qulaity of student is 20x better in their study skills, so the classes are much harder and go a lot faster. The student will find themselfs in way over their head and drop out. I know, because it happened to me when I transfered there. I had to take a lot of extra classes at Purdue to get up to speed and be able to finally graduate.

It sounds good in theory, but the Ivy Tech transfer student will get steam rolled in a hurry. Even at IUPUI, it is harder than Ivy Tech. Look at IUPUI's drop out rate... 40%

While IUPUI might not bee to hard to get in to, it is very hard to get thru; they don't habd out degrees. Only 1 out of 10 get thru to graduation.

http://planning.iupui.edu/431.html

[Okk]

Rob C wrote:

I think it's a great idea, as long as the classes are equivalent. Some level of standards must be maintained to ensure that credited classes match up properly.
As a Purdue student in the mid-90's, I took summer classes at IUPUI. They were technically IU classes, though, so had to transfer back to Purdue, and many of them transferred at a lower level than expected (i.e. 3 semesters of German at IUPUI counted as 2 semesters at Purdue).
I would expect something similar with Ivy Tech, if their classes aren't equivalent. If they are, then I would expect them to transfer equally.

Let's not compare IUPUI and Ivy Tech. IUPUI is not a community college.

[tks]

Purdue's been accepting Ivy Tech credits for YEARS NOW.

The Star must be so swamped they're pulling up old stories (surprise).

[lafguy60]

Erik Jones wrote:

TO be honest, you have no worries. Once the Ivy Tech transfer student gets to campus, they will be quickly running for the door. The academic gap is huge and will enter programs way behind. The qulaity of student is 20x better in their study skills, so the classes are much harder and go a lot faster. The student will find themselfs in way over their head and drop out. I know, because it happened to me when I transfered there. I had to take a lot of extra classes at Purdue to get up to speed and be able to finally graduate.
It sounds good in theory, but the Ivy Tech transfer student will get steam rolled in a hurry. Even at IUPUI, it is harder than Ivy Tech. Look at IUPUI's drop out rate... 40%
While IUPUI might not bee to hard to get in to, it is very hard to get thru; they don't habd out degrees. Only 1 out of 10 get thru to graduation.
http://planning.iupui.edu/431.html

And with your poor grammer and spelling mistakes you are a great testament to the quality of a degree from Purdue.

[nateycakes]

suesam wrote:

Not worth the paper it's printed on Ivy Tech degree's? One of those degrees got my son a job with NASA you fool. What did you get McDonald?

Too bad your son is probably a janitor for NASA.

[noDuh]

Good luck with that. I couldn't even get PU to recognize a course test-out score I took at PU! I wasted a lot of time studying and taking a test to test out of a course only to find they changed their policy (apparently in that nanosecond) and wouldn't accept test outs for the course.

[kim whypes]

Do you think that Purdue would accept my "Child Watching" classes. I had to take it a couple times so I could pass - do I get credit for each time I took it? I really want to be a pharmacist, so i'm transferring to purdue. Hide the Sudafed from me will they? We'll see who gets the last laugh!

[IU-Idiots]

the hell with purdue wrote:

up yours purdue

You poor, poor illiterate. Apparently you can't read:

"It's the first step toward meeting a General Assembly mandate requiring all of Indiana's state universities to reach agreements applying to any campus in the Ivy Tech and Vincennes University systems."

Unlike IU, who offers online degrees to people who NEVER have to step foot on IU's campus.

Of course, having seen IU and Bloomington, I can understand why poeople never want to go there, and why Kiplinger and Money magazine both picked Lafayette above Bloomington.

By the way, how's that cheating class of dentists doing?

How about the student loan scandal, where one Congressman singled out IU (on the Congressional floor) as being the worst offender?

No wonder Mitch Daniels told Bloomington students that IU should be more like Purdue.

Now, go brush your tooth and get back to your White Castle job.