Retirees in The Villages plagued by b...

Retirees in The Villages plagued by bad siding say they're gett...

There are 52 comments on the Orlando Sentinel story from Jan 25, 2008, titled Retirees in The Villages plagued by bad siding say they're gett.... In it, Orlando Sentinel reports that:

Retired nurse Carolyn Reichel thought she was ordering her dream home. In 2005, her son helped her pay $238,689 for a custom-built three-bedroom, two-bathroom house in this sprawling retirement community.

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Nebulous

Ocala, FL

#24 Jan 25, 2008
Puddytat wrote:
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If you ride by and see who is doing the GRUNT WORK for nothing , It makes my day when the house falls apart. Shame on LAKE COUNTY for letting them in.
So, if I am understanding your post, The Villages, a community which consists of over 60,000 very dedicated Republican voters employs Mexican laborers.
Newzaroo

Spring Hill, FL

#25 Jan 25, 2008
Loose vinyl siding is a problem. John McCain is dangerous. Vote Mitt Romney for President. Thank You!
South of the Border

Winter Park, FL

#26 Jan 25, 2008
Comma, estia mocho, save a litle deniro with helpa of sidling installation.

Che Che les glue it yourselfa.

Ciao
BlackieBehr

Lady Lake, FL

#27 Jan 25, 2008
I would *never* purchase a house with vinyl siding nor would I even consider installing later; no matter how it's installed, in a few years it looks like... ahem.....crapola. Did you have a choice or were all the houses supposed to look like they came from same cookie cutter? Why didn't you opt for stucco?
losthwy86

Anthony, FL

#28 Jan 25, 2008
Nebulous wrote:
<quoted text>So, if I am understanding your post, The Villages, a community which consists of over 60,000 very dedicated Republican voters employs Mexican laborers.
You sure READ and commented a lot into your response nebby. Gee your rationalization skills are almost bureaucratic and Crist-like! Amen..
Normal Out of Stater

Conshohocken, PA

#29 Jan 25, 2008
Wow. And I thought the article was about houses that may have been built with the siding installed incorrectly. I must have missed the part about the Republican Mexican-Haters who destroyed the fabric of the sleepy democratic paradise known as central Florida...where no one who is not from there is welcome to move there...everyone is from somewhere else....even the mexican loborers who steal the low wage job you are dying to do yourself...can't wait to visit y'all!

Since: Jul 07

Orlando, FL

#30 Jan 25, 2008
This is another example as to why the insurance companies are raising their rates so high.
Typical low to no quality work done buy the Florida building trades.
This is what happens when the state doesn't have a "Enforcer" type mentality when doing inspections for
the building trade.
The state of Florida turns it's back to proper inspections, why?
Lets guess.
Certainly not for the good of it's residents. Yet the week Governor goes after the insurance industry. I've yet to hear mister weak say anything
about the real issue.
Crappy, junkie, poor, despicable
Florida builders.

Horseface

Palatine, IL

#31 Jan 25, 2008
To the Victims of the Villages:

In the next election, remove the local officials because they are responsible for hiring the incompetent building inspectors in the first place. If the inspectors knew what they were doing rather than bowing to the contractors, this problem could have been avoided.

I also think that homeowners are a bunch of liberal whiners who are against regulation and not paying their taxes for the proper services that they need.

Finally, sue the Villages general contractors and the siding subcontractor. Remember you need a liberal attorney to pursue this. Forget those conservative, do-nothing attorneys, who favor big business and who could care less about the poor suckers and old retirees. Yes, you are victims of your conservative government and attitudes. How about contacting Jeb Bush who was the governor when your homes were built and who had received hand outs from the Villages?

My heart goes out to all of the victims who did see this coming. Now, I will not recommend to anyone from up north to retire to the Villages because of this.

By the way, file complaints with the state board of contractor licensing against the general contractor The Villages and the sub contractor who installed the siding. Shutdown these criminals. You are definitely justified in doing so only if you take a liberal position of suing.

Good luck in solving this nightmare.
Interested Observer

Bristol, CT

#32 Jan 26, 2008
Yeee haw wrote:
.......... But here is a good question - with the threat of recession in Florida,....what will happen with the Villages? Are there annual home owners fees or dues that people have to pay? Is it becoming difficulty for people to pay their taxes and the HOA/dues? Just wondering because like the lady in the article who is on a fixed income is the majority of owners on fixed incomes?
I believe there's a monthly HOA fee of $110-120 (covers pools, tennis courts, and 'basic' golf). There's also a 'bond' for sewer, water infrastructure. I don't know how much that is, but evidently a lot of folks just pay the interest only - not sure.

I've heard that some are starting to feel the pinch - a lot of buyers budget real tight evidently.
Dramadoc

AOL

#33 Jan 26, 2008
I am close to buying in the Villages and since the news about the siding broke I am reconsidering. Is there any recourse at all?
Greg Bell

Winter Park, FL

#35 Jan 26, 2008
I don't know why anyone would want to buy a wood frame home in Florida anyway. They deserve what they got.
squeak

Lady Lake, FL

#37 Jan 26, 2008
Grandma Fudd wrote:
The Villages is just one of many shoddy, "quickie" housing development people pay big bucks to own in and within a year or less find leaky roofs. peeling paint, windows that won't open and other serious problem in.
IT IS SIMPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT MOST OF YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE VILLAGES. THE HOMES ARE OF GREAT CONSTUCTION SO MUCH SO, THAT AFTER INSPECTION, YOUR INSURANCE CARRIER WILL GIVE YOU A DISCOUNT ON HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE BECAUSE OF THE QUALITY OF CONSTRUCTION. FURTHERMORE, IF YOU HAD BEEN HERE WHEN THE TORNADO STRUCK, YOU WOULD SEE THAT IF NOT FOR GREAT STURDY CONSTRUCTION, THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT OF DEAD PEOPLE. ALSO, THE VILLAGES STARTED CLEAN UP THE NEXT DAY. I THINK MOST OF THESE POSTS ARE SOUR GRAPES WITH LITTLE KNOWLEDGE TO BACK UP THE REMARKS.
Stucco Mama

Inverness, FL

#38 Jan 26, 2008
the block/stucco homes are no better inside...homes built south of 466 are of no quality whatsoever...the villages started over 30 years ago (long before Jeb Bush was in office)...the older homes were built by craftsmen that knew their trade...the new homes are built by workers picked up at the Home Depot parking lot...The Villages, FL
squeak

Lady Lake, FL

#39 Jan 26, 2008
Yeee haw wrote:
One of my family members came down from up North and wanted us to drive them over to The Villages to look around. It was definately NOT the friendliest place. No one would even make eye contact and there was so much traffic around the marketplace you had to watch out or get ran over. The homes are so cheaply made. It's a big scheme. Way too overcrowded. My family laughed about it. Whoever developed the place had a good idea but got really greedy. But here is a good question - with the threat of recession in Florida (which we are really already there in it), high taxes, foreclosures everywhere, etc... what will happen with the Villages? Are there annual home owners fees or dues that people have to pay? Is it becoming difficulty for people to pay their taxes and the HOA/dues? Just wondering because like the lady in the article who is on a fixed income is the majority of owners on fixed incomes?
THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF REMARKS WITH LITTLE KNOWLEDGE. THE PEOPLE IN THE VILLAGES ARE SOME OF THE NICEST PEOPLE THAT YOU CAN MEET. WHEN THE TORNADO STRUCK, WE HAD NO NEED FOR PEOPLE TO BE WITHOUT SHELTER BECAUSE EVERYONE OPENED THEIR HOMES TO THE ONES WHO HAD LOST THEIR HOMES THAT VERY NIGHT. THE NEXT DAY VOLUNTEERS FROM NEIGHBORHOODS FED THE PEOPLE WHO HAD LOST HOMES. THEY ALSO CLEANED UP YARDS AND REPAIRED ROOFS. THE OWNERS OF THE VILLAGES SENT OUT CREWS FREE OF CHARGE TO CLEAN UP THE DESTRUCTION AND BOARD UP HOMES AND COVER ROOFS. IF YOU WANT TO DISLIKE THIS BEAUTIFUL PLACE, THEN SO BE IT, BUT PLEASE, GET YOUR FACTS ALL TOGETHER BEFORE "your family laughs at it" YOU REALLY DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
squeak

Lady Lake, FL

#40 Jan 26, 2008
Stucco Mama wrote:
the block/stucco homes are no better inside...homes built south of 466 are of no quality whatsoever...the villages started over 30 years ago (long before Jeb Bush was in office)...the older homes were built by craftsmen that knew their trade...the new homes are built by workers picked up at the Home Depot parking lot...The Villages, FL
HERE WE GO AGAIN---NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE NEW HOMES. I LIVE IN A GARDENIA SOUTH OF 466---WE HAD STATE INSPECTORS COME IN AND GO OVER THE HOME. THE QUALITY STANDARDS WERE BETTER THAN WHAT THE STATE REQUIRES--WHICH MEANS OUR INSURANCE LOWERED OUR PREMIUM BECAUSE OF THE QUALITY CONSTRUCTION INCLUDING ROOF. I HAVE BEEN IN THE OLDER HOMES AND SOME OF THEM ARE VERY NICE, BUT SOME OF THEM LOOK LIKE TRAILORS INSIDE BECAUSE IN THE BEGINNING MR. SWARTZ OWNED THE COMPANY THAT MADE THE MANUFACTURED HOMES AND THEREFORE INSTALLED THE SAME CABINETS, ETC. IN SOME OF THE OLDER HOMES. PLEASE HAVE YOUR FACTS TOGETHER BEFORE YOU HAVE YOUR THOUGHTS.
squeak

Lady Lake, FL

#42 Jan 26, 2008
Puddytat wrote:
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Who paid you to sing their praises ? That "scratch each others back " discount is quite the bargain ,'ay ? I didn't know the ins. company had such a giving and concerned loving heart ...I'll have to remember that next time my neck gets broke and I try to make good on a policy.
NO ONE HAS PAID ME ANYTHING. I JUST SIMPLY STATED THE FACTS AS I KNOW THEM AND I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR 6 YEARS AND HAVE OWNED THREE OF THEIR NEW HOMES WITH NO PROBLEMS OF ANY KIND.
joBC-Can

Canada

#44 Jan 26, 2008
There are laws coming out our ying yang Yet they're not worth the paper they're written on. I have no idea how the higher mucky mucks can sleep at night. They are more than willing to take your money. They sell crap then hide in their Ivory Tower. Cowards. They can take me off their mailing list. I'm not going to play their game. Once again... Buyer Beware! Have the place inspected before you buy. There's a million more for sale in Florida. Nobody deserves to be treated that way.
Treas Of A HOA

Hollywood, FL

#45 Jan 27, 2008
Dramadoc wrote:
I am close to buying in the Villages and since the news about the siding broke I am reconsidering. Is there any recourse at all?
Yes there is if you are stuck buying go this way. I am the head of the Arch Review Comm in my community hoa. Go the route of STUCCO exterior it is the only material that lasts thru Hurricanes and the Hot Florida Sun.Nothing else lasts are community was built with fake T111 wood siding ( Carboard) we won 5 lawsuits against the developer LENNAR anyone who buys a house they build is a fool. They sub-contract everything and oversee nothing period
NC Girl

Greensboro, NC

#47 Jan 28, 2008
My husband & I own a home in the villages Your comments about "ladies...who will do anything to have something pretty"...your "good old boy" attitude shows us what kind of women you've attracted. I have owned a corporation, subcontracted many houses, have done the fixer upper with "GOOD BONES", and some yard space. Don't want that anymore. The villages homes are a lifestyle, quality construction for what they are, and many of us "ladies" know that when we buy. Ours is a vacation home. I've run into guys like you on the car lot or in construction trades...."dima dozen".....LOL Your opinions and advice would go in one ear and out the other...but of course, that's because I'm a woman and obviously, there's nothing in between to catch it. LOL
not surprised at all

Stockbridge, GA

#48 Jan 29, 2008
big surprise. the builders demand such cheap prices to keep their profits high that they hire not so bright contractor's who will work for almost nothing and have to hire basically day labor's to do installs on product they aren't trained on properly. my question is what about lake counties building department? they approved all of this. if govt would stand up to the plate and accept responsibility than crap like this wouldn't happen.

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