Underground caves

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#123 Jun 18, 2013
laura wrote:
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I have sent messages but never received a reply, did you get them?

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#124 Jun 19, 2013
Looking through the aerial photos, I came across two more cave entrances in Belleview. One is a large fissure entrance in a field behind a home off Telegraph road and the other is in a yard a few blocks northeast.
Max

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#125 Jun 28, 2013
John wrote:
I just went to a cavern mecca in the belleview area, off 484. I was in the are for other reasons, when i noticed a random sinkhole/cave on the side of the road. I stopped and checked it out - pretty neat. It was obvious that the area was prone to have more. While i was waling around a man stopped me and told me about a place not far that had many more. I went to investigate and found the place he was talking about. It was behind an old house that is made of limerocks. The place is called Cool Breeze farm. They are super serious about no trespassing, so i didn't get a full tour of the area. If you like caving the area itself is really cool. 29d 2m 4.85s N 82d 4m 17.04s W
Went to this cave with a few of my friends and it was so awesome! We parked a few blocks away to make sure we didn't get caught, it was really clean and I hope it stays that way. It had multiple staircases and was easy to go through. It was by far the largest cave I had been through yet. You can tell a lot of it is man made(meaning man altered it in order to make it easier to go through) but it is still really cool to through

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#126 Jun 29, 2013
Max wrote:
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Went to this cave with a few of my friends and it was so awesome! We parked a few blocks away to make sure we didn't get caught, it was really clean and I hope it stays that way. It had multiple staircases and was easy to go through. It was by far the largest cave I had been through yet. You can tell a lot of it is man made(meaning man altered it in order to make it easier to go through) but it is still really cool to through
Don't trespass. Either get the land owner's permission or don't go at all. Many land owners are so frustrated with trespassing they seal the caves up. Lucky cave was given a major cleaning by the Central Florida Cavers and a lot of the artificial stuff from the days of a fall out shelter were removed, trash picked up, spray paint cleaned off the walls. It is the trespassers that vandalize the cave. Don't risk for everyone losing access to the cave by trespassing.. you also do not want to risk being shot. Did you go into the break down room at the far end and go through the passage i dug out to the Council Chamber? The Break down room is by far the largest room in the cave so far.
Max

Apopka, FL

#127 Jun 29, 2013
omegaltd wrote:
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Don't trespass. Either get the land owner's permission or don't go at all. Many land owners are so frustrated with trespassing they seal the caves up. Lucky cave was given a major cleaning by the Central Florida Cavers and a lot of the artificial stuff from the days of a fall out shelter were removed, trash picked up, spray paint cleaned off the walls. It is the trespassers that vandalize the cave. Don't risk for everyone losing access to the cave by trespassing.. you also do not want to risk being shot. Did you go into the break down room at the far end and go through the passage i dug out to the Council Chamber? The Break down room is by far the largest room in the cave so far.
We went in thought the opening where the first small above ground structure you pass going up the road and explored the whole cave. Sorry for traspassing I thought that was the only option, I will be sure to get permission next time. We made sure to clean up the cave before we left, although there wasn't a lot to clean up just a couple of soda bottles from people before us, but we appreciated the cleanliness and wanted to keep it that way. I understand the frastation of traspasssers because of what they do to caves which I have explored before, vandalism and littering really ruin a cave and I promise you we are not taking part in that. But I still understand the rules and I will make sure I abide by them next time.

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#128 Jun 30, 2013
Max wrote:
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We went in thought the opening where the first small above ground structure you pass going up the road and explored the whole cave. Sorry for traspassing I thought that was the only option, I will be sure to get permission next time. We made sure to clean up the cave before we left, although there wasn't a lot to clean up just a couple of soda bottles from people before us, but we appreciated the cleanliness and wanted to keep it that way. I understand the frastation of traspasssers because of what they do to caves which I have explored before, vandalism and littering really ruin a cave and I promise you we are not taking part in that. But I still understand the rules and I will make sure I abide by them next time.
You can find the land owners address by going to the Moron County Property Appraiser web site and look it up on the map. The break down room is at the back and you have to crawl through a small passage to get to it. The newly found passage i was digging out is on a ledge in the back of the break down room. Did you go down to the dirt filled room before the climb up from what use to be the two story house? The dirt was washed in from the sink hole entrance they were making stairs to but ultimately abandoned that. I am glad we have our own cave, although it is most unexplored and we have to dig out continuing passages.

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#129 Jul 27, 2013
The July trips were cancelled due to weather and car problems. The trip will be to clear up the fallen branches from the bathroom/shed and repair that corner of the roof so there will probably no work done on the cave. If we could bring in more funds, we could do a second trip to work on the cave, but right now most of our funds are involved in suing Marion County. The Supreme Court ruled that government can not extort land owners, but no government body in Florida has changed their policies of violating the Constitution. Since the county has violated an agreement to honor our tax exemption, threatened to seize our land and sell it, and confirmed by the DOJ of violating our civil rights, we are suing the county and unfortunately, the blood sucking, parasites known as lawyers took half the funds we had to purchase the next parcels of land... the ones with more cave entrances and were to be modified for camping.

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#130 Aug 11, 2013
the first trip of August was cancelled at the second driver's request. Low on money. We are planning now for the back up date next Sunday. After that, trips may be cancelled for the next two months due to surgery on my father.

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#131 Aug 18, 2013
The trip to the property started late and we did get the primary goal of clearing the fallen tree and its branches from around the shed and bathroom done. Many trees fell in the last two months, one a large oak near what is left of the road came down knocking two other trees down with it. One fell across the "road", right over the pit someone dug into it. This mass of trees opened up the east side of the property to the Sun. It was humid and citronella candles kept the bugs away. The drive way and parking area needs to be cleared again and the area around the lodge had the over grown saplings and 'weeds' cut. Someone dumped branch cuttings in front of the gate. Repairs to the bathroom could not be made and it will take many trips to cut up the fallen trees. Photos posted at the Facebook group.

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#132 Oct 30, 2013
The secondary driver had his schedule changed, now he has Thursday and Friday off so that is when the trips will take place. This will make it difficult for anyone else to participate.
Anonymous

Greensburg, KY

#133 Nov 19, 2013
hey im from belleview and my grandad used to own the property that lunday's lucky cave is on. well im a lunday and i grew up roaming them caves and i saw a post while looking around google for any information on it that the folks who bought it from my grandpa tuck are sellin it again and i was wonderin if anyone knew anything about it please get back to me. i go to florida once a year and id like to go through there again soon and see the caves

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#134 Nov 19, 2013
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I have sent messages but never received a reply, did you get them?
Unfortunately, the NSS and the FSS and I have had a bit of a falling out so I don't contact them at all. If they are falling to answer their emails, then it appears they make themselves look bad. Go to cave chat, there are members on line there and you can ask them why they are not replying. You can also contact the National Speleological Society website, look up grottos of florida and maybe that will provide a phone number for direct contact.

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#135 Nov 19, 2013
try this forum, there are FSS members chatting there.
http://floridacaverjournal.blogspot.com/

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#136 Nov 20, 2013
bLunday89 wrote:
hey im from belleview and my grandad used to own the property that lunday's lucky cave is on. well im a lunday and i grew up roaming them caves and i saw a post while looking around google for any information on it that the folks who bought it from my grandpa tuck are sellin it again and i was wonderin if anyone knew anything about it please get back to me. i go to florida once a year and id like to go through there again soon and see the caves
Both properties with Lunday's Lucky Cave and Tucks Cave were sold as the owner's wife was dying of cancer. I proposed a fundraiser to help the family with the FSS and local caving clubs but they never followed through. The current owners can be found on the Marion County Property Appraiser's web site. Lucky cave has been cleaned up a great deal and the CFC explored a new passage I discovered before the second to last person sold it. If you want, i could look up the information for you since I have no idea if the Central Florida Cavers have bothered to make new arrangements with the new owners.

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#137 Dec 7, 2013
Does anyone have any information on Helicopter Cave, located off of SW 7th Avenue in Ocala? I saw an ad for a home that said the notorious Helicopter Cave was behind the property. I believe I found it on the satellite maps but I would like to know any stories and maybe photos if anyone was ever there and why the cave is called notorious...

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#138 Dec 12, 2013
There is another cave across I75 from Briar Cave in a walled enclosed retention pond, does anyone know of this one?

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#139 Jan 17, 2014
January 16- Attorney Timothy Youngblood, representing the Order of the
Skywatcher Clan, went before the Marion County Value Adjustment Board to
appeal the Property Appraiser's blatant rejection of the tribe's tax
exemption despite a written, legally binding agreement made by the
Property Appraiser's office to honor the tax exemption with no exceptions
or requirements listed. Chief AraChiya phoned in testimony as did a
participant in the tribe's cave exploration program. The hearing
concluded exactly as the Chief informed Youngblood it would. The
magistrate completely ignored all the documented agreements the county
made, they refused to address those documents three times during the
hearing. She chose to ignore all the photographic evidence and the
testimony. She stated to the Chief that he should work with the property
appraiser to solve the situation yet ignored the documents that clearly
show the property appraiser (Villie Smith) has refused to discuss the
matter in any way shape or form and wrote in public record that he would
rather speak to the tribe's lawyer that speak to the Chief. Yet the
magistrate attempt to verbally block the Chief from speaking this fact.
Youngblood, despite having been told how this hearing was going to go
months earlier, stated that he was surprised about blatant disregard and
avoidance the legally binding agreements the magistrate and county
officials were displaying. He also agreed with the Chief whose e-mail to
the attorney immediately after the hearing, stated how disappointed the
Chief was that Youngblood did not point out to the magistrate that she
was openly ignoring all the evidence and their excuse was that the tribe
will not permit the county to come on the tribe's land. All visitors must
sign a waiver of liability, the property appraiser refuses to sign a
waiver and is thus denied access which the tribe is under no legal
obligation to give since the county signed that agreement to honor the
tax exemption.
Youngblood stated that he will be filing the case in Federal court (as
the department of Justice advised) as soon as the transcript of the
hearing is obtained. The Chief also requested that Youngblood use the
transcript, and other documents, to file ethics charges against the
property appraiser and the magistrate. It is clear the county had
absolutely no intention of giving the tribe a fair hearing and had
determined the outcome before Youngblood was hired as stated by a
representative at the PA's office who stated that the PA is under no
obligation to carry out the rulings of the board.
Once the case is filed in Federal court, the Chief will hold a press
conference. this case has gone beyond the fight for the rights of the
tribe that the county has blatantly violated, it is now a fight against a
terrorist based government entity that constantly violates the
Constitution and the rights of its citizens and is the duty of all US
citizens as written in the Declaration of independence that any
government that is not defending the rights of US citizens to life,
liberty, pursuit of happiness... blah,blah,blah, shall be abolished and
replace with a government that will. That is what this fight is now
about, for freedom against terrorists who call themselves government.
cavehunter

United States

#141 Feb 6, 2014
rob wrote:
there are many caves in ocala and belleview the best are on 441 over by the old golf cart store it was once an attraction but was closed down due to road construction i will check back here later if any one wants directions
Hello, my name is Steve and I have been looking for some local caves can you please give me the directions?

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#142 Feb 6, 2014
cavehunter wrote:
<quoted text> Hello, my name is Steve and I have been looking for some local caves can you please give me the directions?
Steve, most caves are on private property and as a result you need to either make contact with a caving club or write the property owner to seek permission. There are very few caves on public land or are open for anyone to just walk in. There are a number of small caves along the Santos Cross Florida trail. Florida Caverns (Marianna), The Canyons (NW Gainesville rd), and White Cliffs (Brick city adventure park in Ocala) can be toured by appointment.
We have a cave system on our property that is being dug out and explored which means all that go in are required to do some work.
I do not give out exact directions to any of the caves but if you go to the TERRANAUT CORPS Facebook group you will see satellite photos of many cave locations and even if you figure out where these places are, you must not trespass on anyone's property to enter these caves.

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#143 Mar 2, 2014
March 02,2014- We departed 15 minutes late and arrived around the predicted time to find some yard waste and some trash dumped in front of the gate. My brother and I walked around, opened the gate and did a walk through to inspect for more damage that would require the chain saw. Luckily there was none. some smaller branches came down behind the shed and a dead tree came now on the east side. Cleavers were blanketing the area. the caves were checked before we returned to the truck to get the tools. I put on the new jumpsuit and proceeded to the lodge area where I waked the tall plants to clear the area in front of the shed. The Bathroom door's coating was not good enough to protect it from the weather, it is falling apart now.
I started clearing out the bottom of the floor deck with the machete, it was mostly smilax vines with spanish moss. There were only four saplings growing. I stopped a number of times to rest and talk to the two barred owls that were chatting to each other. It took about an hour to clear the deck and then I returned to the truck to get the caving gear to begin mapping. My brother realized he had to use the bathroom so I grabbed the gear and went to the cave while he drove to the Walgreens. I stayed out of the cave and measured the opening and started to clear the parking area when i noticed a vehicle approaching. A black pick up drove to the gate, saw me approaching, made a fast U-turn and left. Angelo returned just behind that person.
Thinking it was time to go already, I was starting to gather the tool when i realized I misread the watch. I returned to the cave as Angelo sat top side. I climbed in and started making detailed, to the foot measurements of the ledge, second ledge, squeeze to the dirt filled chamber and the passage under the ledge when Angelo informed me of company approaching. Jeremy and his family arrived. They came down to the cave where they signed the waiver, i returned to the truck to get the space helmet.
Jeremy and I entered the cave and I gave him the tour. Pointing out rocks we want to break up and remove for safety reasons, before some measurements were taken. Climbing over the boulder barricade, we went to the end of the passage where dirt and debris choked the continuing passage. More measurements were taken to confirm the passages length which i estimated at 50 and was found to be just that from the tip of the entrance ledge. Coming to the cross passage, near the entrance, I removed the washed in mulch that agin filled the passage i cleared out a year ago. I worked my way into the squeeze to photograph and measure what lies beyond the restriction. What I though was only a foot at most wound up to be two feet. It could not be determined if this passage went up or to the sides.
The normal depart time had passed, but AraChiya left the cave so that Jeremy could bring his children in with the spare helmet and the old pair of blue cover alls that I last used over 10 years ago. They took turns wearing the gear, his son had difficulty at the entrance climb. After nearly two hours, the tour was over, I showed them other cave entrances including the dried up spring next store and the cave entrance midway across the road from the property. it was blowing cold air indicating passage and perhaps running water.
We then returned to the vehicles, got changed, cleaned up locked the gate and proceeded to Belleview Pizza for a well deserved lunch consisting of at least four pizzas.
Afterward we all departed for our individual destinations.

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