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Jun 24, 2011
 
There was another jumper this morning off the Fred Hartman. Does anyone know any details?
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Probably got tired of the high gas prices.
Suicide is for cowards and selfish people.

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Jun 24, 2011
 

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It's a beautiful bridge. If I were going to jump off of one, I would jumpp off of the Fred Hartman.
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Jun 24, 2011
 

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Challenger wrote:
Probably got tired of the high gas prices.
Suicide is for cowards and selfish people.
Don’t judge me negatively!
I just happen to be very close to the subject and have experienced the affects and aftermath.
When you are unfortunate enough to be forced to bereave a loved one, only due to the victim’s selfishness and instability, you gain a whole new perspective concerning the rights and wrongs that people are capable of. Suicide is a coward’s way to “get back at someone” or to “avoid persecution and/or consequence”. It is an unnecessary course of action which only affects the ones left behind.
Suicide is the most selfish thing a person can do; they know this fact as they are pursuing the effort.
They are out to hurt everyone else and not themselves. It’s similar to “Passing the Buck”.
People who use suicides as a way to avoid something are weak minded, ignorant and probably deserve whatever end they meet.
I say,“Good Riddance!”
Linda

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Jun 24, 2011
 

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Challenger wrote:
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Don’t judge me negatively!
I just happen to be very close to the subject and have experienced the affects and aftermath.
When you are unfortunate enough to be forced to bereave a loved one, only due to the victim’s selfishness and instability, you gain a whole new perspective concerning the rights and wrongs that people are capable of. Suicide is a coward’s way to “get back at someone” or to “avoid persecution and/or consequence”. It is an unnecessary course of action which only affects the ones left behind.
Suicide is the most selfish thing a person can do; they know this fact as they are pursuing the effort.
They are out to hurt everyone else and not themselves. It’s similar to “Passing the Buck”.
People who use suicides as a way to avoid something are weak minded, ignorant and probably deserve whatever end they meet.
I say,“Good Riddance!”
How very cruel and ignorant you are!
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Linda wrote:
<quoted text>How very cruel and ignorant you are!
How am I cruel or ignorant?
I speak from experience.
Have you ever been victimized by suicide?
Have you ever thought of committing suicide?
If so, why?(Any reason or excuse you can come up with is invalid)
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Jun 24, 2011
 
Linda wrote:
<quoted text>How very cruel and ignorant you are!
Since you must be so abundantly intelligent and magnanimous, please tell others how the suicide of your sibling, parent or close friend would affect you and how you would handle the scenario.
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Challenger wrote:
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Don’t judge me negatively!
I just happen to be very close to the subject and have experienced the affects and aftermath.
When you are unfortunate enough to be forced to bereave a loved one, only due to the victim’s selfishness and instability, you gain a whole new perspective concerning the rights and wrongs that people are capable of. Suicide is a coward’s way to “get back at someone” or to “avoid persecution and/or consequence”. It is an unnecessary course of action which only affects the ones left behind.
Suicide is the most selfish thing a person can do; they know this fact as they are pursuing the effort.
They are out to hurt everyone else and not themselves. It’s similar to “Passing the Buck”.
People who use suicides as a way to avoid something are weak minded, ignorant and probably deserve whatever end they meet.
I say,“Good Riddance!”
There are lots of people who just realize there is nothing that can be done to improve their lifes. They dont do this to hurt others but it does, they are doing this to release the despair they carry. Who are you to judge the torment these people carry in their heads a heart. There are lots of reasons people commit suicide. very few do it to pay some one else back or to show them.
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Recount started at Eight wrote:
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There are lots of people who just realize there is nothing that can be done to improve their lifes. They dont do this to hurt others but it does, they are doing this to release the despair they carry. Who are you to judge the torment these people carry in their heads a heart. There are lots of reasons people commit suicide. very few do it to pay some one else back or to show them.
People who think it's their right to rationalize and condone the intentional loss of another person’s life just kill’s me (no pun intended).
For one to purposely remove their self from life’s equation, while leaving the others to deal with their shortcomings or relations and without considering those people’s feelings or needs is no different than saying to your Mother,“I hate you!”(It is a very selfish thing indeed)
There will always be folks who have “made their own bed” and “have to sleep in it”; the trick is to remember who’s sleeping beside you. As for me, I always consider how my actions will affect the ones around me. This fact alone gives me the savvy to understand the difference in weakness and strength.
In your way of thinking, you are basically saying,“Why preserve human life? We are forced to survive or fade away from the world. Save the planet, kill yourself. It is 100% okay with me.”

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Challenger wrote:
Probably got tired of the high gas prices.
Suicide is for cowards and selfish people.
No wonder you failed at being a priest... you have no heart.

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Have you ever been victimized by suicide?
Oh poor YOU... someone YOU know killed themselves and YOU think YOU are a victim?

More likely... YOU were the reason!

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Why does everything have to get off course....I was asking if anyone knew what happened this morning!!!!

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It is sad for the one who chose to take their life...and sad for the ones left behind that have so many unanswered questions and feelings that never had the chance of being expressed. Not everyone is trying to get back at someone....DON'T JUDGE what you don't know.

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Challenger wrote:
Probably got tired of the high gas prices.
Suicide is for cowards and selfish people.
Oh to live a blessed life where you have never felt the kind of pain or mental illness that would make you consider suicide, or had a family member who did.

I've never pinned you as being ignorant; please don't make me start now.
Innuendo

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Jun 26, 2011
 
So what the hell happened? Did we have a jumper or was it a evil joke?

Since: Apr 11

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Challenger wrote:
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Since you must be so abundantly intelligent and magnanimous, please tell others how the suicide of your sibling, parent or close friend would affect you and how you would handle the scenario.
I am not she, but I will answer your trollish question.

Most people who live with a person considering suicide cannot really grasp the concept that the person is considering it. Suicide is not a selfish pity party, a sort of last toddler throw-on-the-floor because a person doesn't get their way. For a person to come to the solution of suicide, they must see no other solution. They really see nothing else or, being mentally ill, CAN see no other solution no matter how many there are out there.

So to answer your question of how a person would usually handle being faced with someone who is thinking about suicide, most would do nothing - but try to cheer the person up, try to just keep them alive. It's not as easy as you think because you're fighting an invisible demon, one that is most often also hidden by its biggest victim (the one considering suicide) because of the shame or just hatred of even thinking the thought.

Look again at the numbers involving how many suicides there are a day. 1 suicide every 15.2 minutes. Then consider that every time family/friends/associates experience the loss of someone to suicide, they are all more likely to consider it for themselves. It's a nearly contagious hopelessness.

There is hope for the situation. It's called "educating one's self". I'd highly recommend it. You might be surprised, and you will certainly be the more wise for it, and prepared in case someone you know and least suspect might be considering it (like the other 8 million per year who consider it).

Have I thrown my pearls to swine (or the bridge-dwelling troll)? I hope not - I've never thought you as such. At least if you don't listen, maybe someone else more open minded than you will. To that person, thank you!

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Jun 26, 2011
 
I meant to add that the reason most people would do nothing is that the human mind seems at times incapable of grasping something so hellish as suicide - until it's too late. Our denial and self-protection mode kicks in and we think "Oh, they're just tired", or "they're trying to get attention". But that's the most dangerous (and false) thoughts one can think in most cases.

Most people in retrospect would do anything to help the suicidal NOT make that final decision. Unfortunately, there is so much ignorance and old fashioned taboo about the subject (let's admit, it is an uncomfortable one) that it doesn't get discussed.

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Challenger wrote:
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Don’t judge me negatively!
I just happen to be very close to the subject and have experienced the affects and aftermath.
When you are unfortunate enough to be forced to bereave a loved one, only due to the victim’s selfishness and instability, you gain a whole new perspective concerning the rights and wrongs that people are capable of. Suicide is a coward’s way to “get back at someone” or to “avoid persecution and/or consequence”. It is an unnecessary course of action which only affects the ones left behind.
Suicide is the most selfish thing a person can do; they know this fact as they are pursuing the effort.
They are out to hurt everyone else and not themselves. It’s similar to “Passing the Buck”.
People who use suicides as a way to avoid something are weak minded, ignorant and probably deserve whatever end they meet.
I say,“Good Riddance!”
I'm sorry that you felt the person you knew did this to you. One of the hallmarks of suicide is that the person about to do it will often push others away, thinking it's better that they be mad at him and leave on his own accord than to stick around and continuously be hurt by the actions of the person committing suicide. In that way, it's a lot less selfish than you think.

Do I think it's the right choice? Absolutely not!! It's the wrong way, it's not the solution, but unfortunately there's a blindness that goes with that sort of situation that doesn't allow one to see clearly.

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Jun 26, 2011
 
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Why does everything have to get off course....I was asking if anyone knew what happened this morning!!!!
I don't think it ever happened.
There was never anything on the news or internet.

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