Police: Tagger killed by rival

[Own up to it]

Pisses me off wrote:

This whole Forum is about Parenting a Chid?
Who cares about all this instead of putting so much time on who cant spell or his parents fault, Fu#k taggers. What the point of this He is dead and he gas 20 years old Human that is getting so much **** from people that he didnt even know!
You guys have nothing better to do then Slam a Human that is not here to defend them self! You all JUDGE him one way or another! That is the person you are read your own response and see how you were raised! Talking bad about the dead, Blaming parents or taggers, Gangs how he was dress or who he hand around with Holy Sh8t you are all wrong for judging talking bad about the dead. And not putting any time or effort on who did kill him! Not one Post care about who did it.
Exept his friends that care for him and love him!
Every one else be ashamed for talking bad about everyone but your self! Remeber the person you are talking about and His parents are going threw alot!

You are right about one thing: Josh's parents must be suffering. But this forum is not about creating a memorial for Josh, although you're certainly welcome to do that. It's not a forum for people to make threats -- you're NOT welcome to do that. Rather, it's a forum for community discussion. And, yes, a community forum can discuss parenting. And a forum can discuss personal responsibility.

Part of accepting responsibility is admitting when you or someone you love has made serious errors. Those of you who refuse to admit that Josh erred -- or that you erred in your own lives -- are destined to become failures. Have I erred? Absolutely! But my situation in life is not headlined in the newspaper, nor the subject of this forum.

Learn from this situation. Ask yourself what you can do to prevent another tragedy like this. Look at how you can make your own life better -- and, no, that does not mean how can you get revenge or how can you have more fun all the time. It means, how can you be a better member of society? How can you find real happiness? How can you be a better friend?

Start with respecting yourself. Respect others. Challenge their ideas, but stop your inflammatory speech. Go to school and get a good education, or learn a valuable trade that can provide for your family and contribute to society. Get a good job that you enjoy and pays the bills.

Admit that Josh screwed up. If you can do that, it's the first step in honoring the memory of the things he did right in life. His loss can be turned into a reason for others to do better. If not, his death will only be worth a tagger's can of Krylon. Show the world that he means more than that to you.

[Pablo]

Sis wrote:

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I think you have too much time on your hands to be arguing with someone, just so you can prove your point.

Have you gotten the point yet? If it saves a life, I can keep hammering the point that y'all need to accept responsibility...

[Serves Ya Right]

Did anyone start reading the story doubting this was another latino related shooting? The crimes keep getting closer and closer folks.

I don't care if he was tagging or not. More than likely he was doing something he shouldn't have been doing, was hanging with dipsh!ts he should have, or was hanging in a place he shouldn't have been. Everyday citizens don't normally get shot just behaving themselves.

Mess with fire, get burned.

[concern parent]

they need to arrest all this taggers .

[Wow]

Denial. Anger. Yep, these may be normal parts of the grieving process. Hopefully, though, you can take this loss and help others learn from it. It'd be a shame if this guy died for nothing.

[someone]

Mr.typical do you know for sure if his parents were not there for him? Just a question. Did you know this young man personally? Well I do! And did your parents teach you not to assume and believe everything you hear. What I dont understand is this, that his friends were there and they are telling us what happened but yet it is easy for you not to believe them.
So, dont go bragging saying your parents taught you this and that because if anything you shouldnt judge the situation if you werent present. Give the benefit of the doubt, there are two sides to each story. If he was a tagger or not in your eyes you should see that a human life was taken

[TO typical]

now if your kid somehow made a mistake, yes mistake!(can you believe that people make mistakes? how crazy is that! its parents faults that everyone is human, right?) and was stuck in a situation where his younger friend was being beat up, i would hope your saint of a child would have the balls josh had and step in to help him, so go back to your little suburb in irvine and preach b/s about parenting

[snap shop]

Every job has its danger this is just a hazard of this kind of life.

[Chris in Orange County CA]

TO typical wrote:

now if your kid somehow made a mistake, yes mistake!(can you believe that people make mistakes? how crazy is that! its parents faults that everyone is human, right?) and was stuck in a situation where his younger friend was being beat up, i would hope your saint of a child would have the balls josh had and step in to help him, so go back to your little suburb in irvine and preach b/s about parenting

It appears this was not a "mistake" but rather, a fatal error. Grown men should rely on their capacity to know better than to depend on their "balls". This is where I do not agree with this line of thinking. So how can this story be told so as to reflect that he was in an everyday situation and that this can happen to anyone? I've read a lot of "you don't know what really happened". I think that all young Americans should know...especially in the Whittier area.

[snap shop]

Chris in Orange County CA wrote:

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It appears this was not a "mistake" but rather, a fatal error. Grown men should rely on their capacity to know better than to depend on their "balls". This is where I do not agree with this line of thinking. So how can this story be told so as to reflect that he was in an everyday situation and that this can happen to anyone? I've read a lot of "you don't know what really happened". I think that all young Americans should know...especially in the Whittier area.

We have 2 million gang members they rob rape and murder every day many of them have business home invasion, house theif drugs car jacking car theif. How do you think we should deal with them?

[Chris in Orange County CA]

I am contributing to this post in hopes to once again impress that our children really are the future and that their children will be as well. The teaching of self defense to protect ones person, family, or property is straight forward. I believe that we as a community do do not lead by example. That to live a productive life will decrease the odds that something as horrible as this will happen. So often kids see more of their parents losing control than they do hearing them share their bad experiences or "lessons learned". They think with parts of their anatomy inatead of using what is becoming not so common sense. These "2 million" will continue to grow if we do not invest the time in our own. Parents today more than ever leave the raising part to public schools and television; and now rap and violent video games go unchecked. Idle time should not kill, it should be kept to a minimum and with family and true friends.

[i love you big brother]

Thanks for always being there for me. My whole family misses you. God has a special place for you in heaven. You have all my prayers. We love you.

[WestWhittier]

RIP to little homie from PHD much love from the Three6Family

[Stereo Type]

Chris in Orange County CA wrote:

I am contributing to this post in hopes to once again impress that our children really are the future and that their children will be as well. The teaching of self defense to protect ones person, family, or property is straight forward. I believe that we as a community do do not lead by example. That to live a productive life will decrease the odds that something as horrible as this will happen. So often kids see more of their parents losing control than they do hearing them share their bad experiences or "lessons learned". They think with parts of their anatomy inatead of using what is becoming not so common sense. These "2 million" will continue to grow if we do not invest the time in our own. Parents today more than ever leave the raising part to public schools and television; and now rap and violent video games go unchecked. Idle time should not kill, it should be kept to a minimum and with family and true friends.

"So often kids see more of their parents losing control than they do hearing them share their bad experiences or "lessons learned". They think with parts of their anatomy inatead of using what is becoming not so common sense"

Are you an Expert!(You know that so often Parents lose control?) Who are your parents? You talk about bad parenting but the only person that seem to be having problems with parent are you with yours! You need to look back at your child hood and ask your self why? Why am I Di*K? Why do I hate my self? Why do a preach some much B.S?
Did my parents Lose control while I was a child? Yes! That is why you preach about good parenting! Right!“So often kids see more of their parents losing control than they do hearing them share their bad experiences or "lessons learned". They think with parts of their anatomy instead of using what is becoming not so common sense” You are expressing your parent raising you!. I can’t believe that you think that more parent are loosing control! then teaching?, I know my parent taught me well! and all my friends to! But I don’t know about yours! You stereo-type everyone and blame everyone! Get a life buddy ! And leave our Friend Josh to R.I.P Take your perching somewhere else! You don’t know what your talking about, and you suck trying to give advice!
Josh is a Friend, I am glad he doesn’t see how ignorant people Can really be! If he could read this he would Laugh and say don’t waste anymore time with people like you.
(Chris in Orange County )

[someone]

Irate wrote:

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No I don't have problems raising my kids, but i'm not going to pass judgement on other parents for the actions committed by their grown kids who know right from wrong and who can't be with them 24/7. Nor will I pretend to be a perfect parent!

that makes perfect sense

[So sad]

Stereo Type wrote:

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"So often kids see more of their parents losing control than they do hearing them share their bad experiences or "lessons learned". They think with parts of their anatomy inatead of using what is becoming not so common sense"
Are you an Expert!(You know that so often Parents lose control?) Who are your parents? You talk about bad parenting but the only person that seem to be having problems with parent are you with yours! You need to look back at your child hood and ask your self why? Why am I Di*K? Why do I hate my self? Why do a preach some much B.S?
Did my parents Lose control while I was a child? Yes! That is why you preach about good parenting! Right!“So often kids see more of their parents losing control than they do hearing them share their bad experiences or "lessons learned". They think with parts of their anatomy instead of using what is becoming not so common sense” You are expressing your parent raising you!. I can’t believe that you think that more parent are loosing control! then teaching?, I know my parent taught me well! and all my friends to! But I don’t know about yours! You stereo-type everyone and blame everyone! Get a life buddy ! And leave our Friend Josh to R.I.P Take your perching somewhere else! You don’t know what your talking about, and you suck trying to give advice!
Josh is a Friend, I am glad he doesn’t see how ignorant people Can really be! If he could read this he would Laugh and say don’t waste anymore time with people like you.
(Chris in Orange County )

You really, really need to step back and try to understand what people like Chris in Orange County are trying to communicate to you. Chris appears to be a very sincere person who's trying to help keep more lives from being wasted. Stop blaming people like Chris for anybody else's failures -- including Josh's or your own. The reality in today's world is that people who follow Chris' path are the ones who will achieve success. And I don't mean just financial success, but also success in relationships, family stability, job security, and the ability to live in safe neighborhoods without fear for one' own safety.

But some people just don't want to learn from those who are successful -- they'd rather try to call them names and blame others for their own failures...

[I Agree]

So sad wrote:

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You really, really need to step back and try to understand what people like Chris in Orange County are trying to communicate to you. Chris appears to be a very sincere person who's trying to help keep more lives from being wasted. Stop blaming people like Chris for anybody else's failures -- including Josh's or your own. The reality in today's world is that people who follow Chris' path are the ones who will achieve success. And I don't mean just financial success, but also success in relationships, family stability, job security, and the ability to live in safe neighborhoods without fear for one' own safety.
But some people just don't want to learn from those who are successful -- they'd rather try to call them names and blame others for their own failures...

Very well said. I couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you.

[Allie]

i was very lucky ti know joshe and to be one of his friends. he was not a loser a low life or a tagger. he was a good funny nice always there for you kind of guy. he was always there for my friend he always knew just what to say when u were feeling down. he always put a smile on my face. so all u people who were not lucky enofe to know him or be his friend should not say any thing about him now that he is gone. all he wanted was the best for all his frineds he never brought any one down. we love u josh and ur with god now so none of this even matters. this could happen to any one of ur kids so insend of trying to hate on his life just give the people that u love hugs a lil more often and tell them that u love them insted of wasting ur time talking shit.

[anonymous]

post a pic of the guy please

[anonymous]

post a pic please