Local woman ticketed for dropping f-b...

Local woman ticketed for dropping f-bomb

There are 71 comments on the www.khou.com story from Aug 13, 2008, titled Local woman ticketed for dropping f-bomb . In it, www.khou.com reports that:

La Marque resident Kathryn Fridge, shown with her daughter Chloe, 2, was issued a citation the night before Tropical Storm Edouard made landfall by Assistant La Marque Fire Marshal Alfred A. Decker IV for using ...

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Since: Jul 07

Indianapolis

#48 Aug 17, 2008
After reading the story it sounds like she was ticketed for disorderly conduct (after being confronted by the fire marshall) and not just for her language.
poff american

United States

#49 Aug 17, 2008
Texas Proud wrote:
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I never claimed to be a Saint! But unless you can read my lips while you are driving (with your head somewhere else besides your driving), that is still my private vehicle! I don't have a loud speaker blasting obscenities for the whole world to hear! No I do not flip anyone off! Ever!
This is a perfect example of those such as yourself that abuse the 5Th Amendment! That there should not be social morals or edicate in a public place. I suppose if this person would have walked into Wal-Mart naked, you would say they have the right to freedom of expression?
Public decency and consideration for others is a necessity in civilized society.
I put my life on the line for this Country. I am an Honorably Dicharged Disabled Vet that served in the first Gulf (Iqai War). I am not going to sit back and watch people strip away at our Constitution with throughing a fit of it. I don't care what you think about that woman, or myself.
The bottom line is that Fire Chief violated her rights period.
poff american

United States

#50 Aug 17, 2008
Texas Proud wrote:
<quoted text>
I never claimed to be a Saint! But unless you can read my lips while you are driving (with your head somewhere else besides your driving), that is still my private vehicle! I don't have a loud speaker blasting obscenities for the whole world to hear! No I do not flip anyone off! Ever!
This is a perfect example of those such as yourself that abuse the 5Th Amendment! That there should not be social morals or edicate in a public place. I suppose if this person would have walked into Wal-Mart naked, you would say they have the right to freedom of expression?
Public decency and consideration for others is a necessity in civilized society.
Yeah I had some misspelling in the last post to you.
DJJ

Pearland, TX

#51 Aug 17, 2008
poff american wrote:
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Why don't you pick up a dictionary and read it for yourself. Because obviously you have no clue as to what is written in the pages of it do you!!!
What is going on with this case is not a question of if this woman was respectful or moral or whatever you want to call it. THE BOTTOM LINE IS
that fire marshal over stepped his boundaries and VIOLATED that womans CIVIL RIGHTS. It does not matter that you or anyone else disslikes what she says, SHE has the right to say it PERIOD!!!!!!!
Now for those of you who do not know what our, the UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION READS then I suggest that each and everyone of you all go to the LIBRARY and check out a copy of it and read it. I HAVE BEEN STUDYING it for the last few years because I AM AN Activist for our CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. WE reserve the right under the 5th AMMENDMENT to say anything as long as it is not RACIAL or DISCRIMINATING, PERIOD.
And for those of you who do not know this then go back to school and learn it because obviously you all are the ignorant ones that don't know your own rights as an AMERICAN. And you're comment that you made about this woman being illiterate, well how do you know that she is or not.You are being very presumptuous about someone you know nothing about. Ohhhh and I bet that when someone cuts you off in traffic or something, let me guess you don't get pissed and use the f-word or b-word or you s.o.b. either. And if you write in here and tell the world that you don't, I will bet you that you are a liar. So there you go, about keeping it at home. Your car is in public even if you have youre window up or down, and if you fly the bird it is just the same as if you mutter the f-word. I bet that all of you that disagree with this woman with what she said at Walmart, that lets see hmmmmmm you have never said anything like that before. LIAR'S all of you.
Being from Kentucky I can understand your feelings. Its tough living in Kentucky, you probably get to use the "F" word alot.
Rita

Oxford, NC

#53 Aug 17, 2008
"and the language by its very utterance tends to incite an immediate breach of the peace;" ummm this does not apply as she was clearly having a private conversation with her mother. She didn't stand in the middle of the aisle and scream bloody murder. She will easily be able to fight the citation. You should do better internet research. There is no way this will hold up in court. Oh wait I forgot it is in the South. They have their own stupid "laws". I'm offended by you freaks constantly talking about god, but do you see me arresting you or suing you?

“Look me in the eye when talkin”

Since: Jul 07

Katy, Texas

#54 Aug 17, 2008
poff american wrote:
<quoted text>
I put my life on the line for this Country. I am an Honorably Dicharged Disabled Vet that served in the first Gulf (Iqai War). I am not going to sit back and watch people strip away at our Constitution with throughing a fit of it. I don't care what you think about that woman, or myself.
The bottom line is that Fire Chief violated her rights period.
So let me get this straight, you think she was expressing her freedom of speech and therefore should not have been cited? What part of the Amendment should she be protected by?

Below is a brief excerpt from a report send to Congress in March of 2008 on Freedom of Speech and Press: Exceptions to the First Amendment. Prepared by:

Henry Cohen
Legislative Attorney
American Law Division

"The First Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that “Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press....” This language restricts government both more and less than it would if it were applied
literally. It restricts government more in that it applies not only to Congress, but to all branches of the federal government, and to all branches of state and local government. It restricts government less in that it provides no protection to some types of speech and only limited protection to others. This report provides an overview of the major exceptions to the First
Amendment — of the ways that the Supreme Court has interpreted the guarantee of freedom of speech and press to provide no protection or only limited protection for some types of speech. For example, the Court has decided that the First Amendment
provides no protection to obscenity, child pornography, or speech that constitutes
“advocacy of the use of force or of law violation ... where such advocacy is directed
to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce
such action.”"

Although I believe the situation could have been handled in a different manner, bottom line is simple... She was in the wrong.

“Look me in the eye when talkin”

Since: Jul 07

Katy, Texas

#55 Aug 17, 2008
Rita wrote:
"and the language by its very utterance tends to incite an immediate breach of the peace;" ummm this does not apply as she was clearly having a private conversation with her mother. She didn't stand in the middle of the aisle and scream bloody murder. She will easily be able to fight the citation. You should do better internet research. There is no way this will hold up in court. Oh wait I forgot it is in the South. They have their own stupid "laws". I'm offended by you freaks constantly talking about god, but do you see me arresting you or suing you?
You may want to sharpen your pencil a little more young lady.
Note my earlier post, and it will stand up rest assured.
You yankee screwballs can cuss in public and disrespect all you want but don't do it here.
Northbound Traveler

Garrison, TX

#56 Aug 17, 2008
poff american wrote:
<quoted text>
I put my life on the line for this Country. I am an Honorably Dicharged Disabled Vet that served in the first Gulf (Iqai War). I am not going to sit back and watch people strip away at our Constitution with throughing a fit of it. I don't care what you think about that woman, or myself.
The bottom line is that Fire Chief violated her rights period.
First of all, let me thank you for your service! I appreciate ALL of our men and women in the armed services who serve us and help keep us free!
Second, I thank you for standing up for what you believe in. It is not always an easy task.
I will have to stick by my ideals as well. According to the paper, the fire chief suggested she not use that kind of language (which he heard an isle over from where she was). That is when she unleashed on him. Her ticket was not given for using a bad word in public, it was given due to disorderly conduct.
A direct quote from the newspaper: "The U.S. Supreme Court had upheld an individual’s right to swear or curse at a peace officer. However, when that person’s words and actions combine to create a disturbance, legal experts told 11 News that’s when disorderly conduct comes in."
Texas Proud

Crosby, TX

#57 Aug 18, 2008
poff american wrote:
<quoted text>
I put my life on the line for this Country. I am an Honorably Dicharged Disabled Vet that served in the first Gulf (Iqai War). I am not going to sit back and watch people strip away at our Constitution with throughing a fit of it. I don't care what you think about that woman, or myself.
The bottom line is that Fire Chief violated her rights period.
Although I am not a Disabled Vet, I am a Vet that has proudly served to preserve this country's freedoms (USAF 1974-1978, back when the public didn't thank or appreciate us for our service & sacrifices) and way of life! I also have two Son's that have served in Iraq that I am very proud of. I thank God that both have returned home safe and sound. My prayers go out daily to those families that have not been as fortunate.
Our constitution is being stripped away, but not in the way you are referring! The attorney's and judges have twisted (or interpreted if you wish) our constitution so that, murderers, sex offenders, drug dealers, illegal aliens etc. walk the streets of our great country and laugh at our laws (or lack of enforcement of them). All the while, those that are trying to live within the laws and social mores of a decent society are scoffed at.
I won't disagree that this female has the right to use any language she feels like using. She also has to realize that there is a place for her to be loud and profane. Out of common courtesy it is not in a public place where others will "have" to be subjected to it!
Desi

Houston, TX

#58 Aug 18, 2008
poff american wrote:
<quoted text>
I put my life on the line for this Country. I am an Honorably Dicharged Disabled Vet that served in the first Gulf (Iqai War). I am not going to sit back and watch people strip away at our Constitution with throughing a fit of it. I don't care what you think about that woman, or myself.
The bottom line is that Fire Chief violated her rights period.
Get over it.......you and millions of others put their lives on the line for the country. So what ?

“Look me in the eye when talkin”

Since: Jul 07

Katy, Texas

#59 Aug 18, 2008
Desi wrote:
<quoted text>
Get over it.......you and millions of others put their lives on the line for the country. So what ?
So what? real nice, thanks to those who have chosen to serve you are able to "Freely" express your "views"....
WWJD

Decatur, GA

#60 Aug 18, 2008
wow!
worldcom

United States

#61 Aug 18, 2008
Decker, Alfred
Title: Assistant Fire Marshal/Captain, La Marque Fire Marshals Office
Email: a.decke@la-marque.tx.us
Zach

Naples, FL

#62 Aug 18, 2008
WOW!!!!!!!!! this is so retarted who gets ticketed for saying the F bomb.....what an idiot
Northbound Traveler

Garrison, TX

#63 Aug 18, 2008
Texas Proud wrote:
<quoted text>
Although I am not a Disabled Vet, I am a Vet that has proudly served to preserve this country's freedoms (USAF 1974-1978, back when the public didn't thank or appreciate us for our service & sacrifices) and way of life! I also have two Son's that have served in Iraq that I am very proud of. I thank God that both have returned home safe and sound. My prayers go out daily to those families that have not been as fortunate.
Our constitution is being stripped away, but not in the way you are referring! The attorney's and judges have twisted (or interpreted if you wish) our constitution so that, murderers, sex offenders, drug dealers, illegal aliens etc. walk the streets of our great country and laugh at our laws (or lack of enforcement of them). All the while, those that are trying to live within the laws and social mores of a decent society are scoffed at.
I won't disagree that this female has the right to use any language she feels like using. She also has to realize that there is a place for her to be loud and profane. Out of common courtesy it is not in a public place where others will "have" to be subjected to it!
Thank you for serving! I also wish to thank your sons. I was raised to be appreciative of the freedoms I have due to the sacrifices of our armed services.
poff american

United States

#64 Aug 18, 2008
DJJ wrote:
<quoted text>
Being from Kentucky I can understand your feelings. Its tough living in Kentucky, you probably get to use the "F" word alot.
Hey idiot for your'e info I AM Not A Kentuckian. I only Work here. I wouldn't give you people a plug nickle for anything in Texas Stupid
poff american

United States

#65 Aug 18, 2008
Desi wrote:
<quoted text>
Get over it.......you and millions of others put their lives on the line for the country. So what ?
Look nobody asked you. I don't look for sympathy either. I prodly served and would do it again.
poff american

United States

#66 Aug 18, 2008
Northbound Traveler wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for serving! I also wish to thank your sons. I was raised to be appreciative of the freedoms I have due to the sacrifices of our armed services.
Thanks. Sorry if you think I am beating up on you all. I am not, All I am trying to put forth is that the Fire Chief overstepped his boundries. What she said was inappropriate but not against the law. He just escalated the situation due to the frame of mind she was in at the time.
poff american

United States

#67 Aug 18, 2008
Northbound Traveler wrote:
<quoted text>
First of all, let me thank you for your service! I appreciate ALL of our men and women in the armed services who serve us and help keep us free!
Second, I thank you for standing up for what you believe in. It is not always an easy task.
I will have to stick by my ideals as well. According to the paper, the fire chief suggested she not use that kind of language (which he heard an isle over from where she was). That is when she unleashed on him. Her ticket was not given for using a bad word in public, it was given due to disorderly conduct.
A direct quote from the newspaper: "The U.S. Supreme Court had upheld an individual’s right to swear or curse at a peace officer. However, when that person’s words and actions combine to create a disturbance, legal experts told 11 News that’s when disorderly conduct comes in."
I agree whole heartadly.
poff american

United States

#68 Aug 18, 2008
Hey ya'll I'es from keeeentucky. livs in thees hils aa hollers.y ya'll b fer upset bout sum stewpid girl dat not no inglish. hells ifer i b
cuused of bein a keeentukiiin thens i rekin ies ill talk like emmm. yuns just aint unerstannin this. hays yuns come here to keeeentuky i'es will
hav ussens friginater fulls of longneks ands we alls have the biggest hoooooooooeeeeeeee down that yuns ever seeeen befer.

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