Local woman ticketed for dropping f-bomb

Aug 13, 2008 Full story: www.khou.com 71

La Marque resident Kathryn Fridge, shown with her daughter Chloe, 2, was issued a citation the night before Tropical Storm Edouard made landfall by Assistant La Marque Fire Marshal Alfred A. Decker IV for using ...

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“Look me in the eye when talkin”

Since: Jul 07

Katy, Texas

#1 Aug 13, 2008
I can't believe we don't have all the do gooders on here crying over this one..
In all actuality the arrest (citation) probably won't hold water if she fights it.
If handled properly and professionally this never would have even made the news, sounds like small town big head syndrome.
mgarren

Asheville, NC

#2 Aug 13, 2008
1) we have freedom of speech and expression (supposedly).

2) who determines what is or is not appropriate?

throughout my life i have easily discovered that those who pretend to be offended at the f-word or other words, usually are by far above and beyond the most immoral people there are.
Northbound Traveler

Covington, TX

#3 Aug 13, 2008
And we wonder why our children curse...
Please no slang in public

Houston, TX

#4 Aug 13, 2008
I am so glad Office Decker ticketed her...I am so tired of people thinking freedom of speech means trash talk. My opinion on freedom of speech means voicing your opinion in a structured form, being ballistic in public because something doesn't go your way.....does not fall in that description!

robinusblind

College Station, TX

#5 Aug 14, 2008
well wtf? Since when is freedom of speech not protected? Glad it wasn't f*cking me.
Northbound Traveler

Covington, TX

#9 Aug 14, 2008
Please no slang in public wrote:
I am so glad Office Decker ticketed her...I am so tired of people thinking freedom of speech means trash talk. My opinion on freedom of speech means voicing your opinion in a structured form, being ballistic in public because something doesn't go your way.....does not fall in that description!
I believe you are correct: Freedom of speech means we are free to voice our opinions!

Using profanity in public is not only rude, can be abusive (which is just perfect for your 2 year old to hear so you can have a reason to beat the poor child when you hear her use it), and against the law in some areas (if not all).

According to reports, if this woman would have stopped when warned, it would have ended there. The problem is, kids AND adults are loosing the concept of respect. When I was younger (which wasn't THAT long ago), people did not curse in front of me in public places. They had more respect for children. I also knew that if I cursed in front of my parents (or showed disrespect to ANYONE!!!) I would get swift punishment. Disrespect was just not allowed. Now days, children are disrespectful to parents and everyone else because the parents have not taught them to respect - OR - the children hang out with other disrespectful youth - OR - both!
We wonder what is wrong with our society? Hmmm....
the truth

Logan, NM

#10 Aug 14, 2008
mgarren wrote:
1) we have freedom of speech and expression (supposedly).
2) who determines what is or is not appropriate?
throughout my life i have easily discovered that those who pretend to be offended at the f-word or other words, usually are by far above and beyond the most immoral people there are.
im not offended by it, but i think its rude and i am glad the bitch got ticketed. It is illegal in texas, to cuss, unleast it was when i was taking texas criminal law, years ago
Brian

Toms River, NJ

#11 Aug 14, 2008
Just because people are too stupid to ignore some lame ass bitch does not mean that people should be FINED for saying things that people don't like in public. The whole idea of 'free speech' is to strive to PROTECT peoples' right to say things that are RUDE, ABUSIVE, and that OTHERS DO NOT WANT TO HEAR. Typical, nice small talk that makes other people feel comfortable does not typically need to be 'protected'. This is an express violation of the constitution. Anyone who says this woman should be ticketed? As much as she probably deserves to be punched in the face, NO. Hey and guess what, I wouldn't want my kid hearing this either, but any time you go in a public place, you voluntarily take the risk. Don't bitch when a bad word gets uttered. The kids will have to learn some day, if you honestly think this will have a huge 'negative' influence on your kid, then you are not very confident in your parenting abilities.
Bobert

Houston, TX

#12 Aug 14, 2008
mgarren wrote:
1) we have freedom of speech and expression (supposedly).
2) who determines what is or is not appropriate?
She was in the jurisdiction of Walmart. Walmart Corp. is the law there.
yellehs

Fairport, NY

#13 Aug 14, 2008
Dude - Freedom of speech - there is no such thing as a f*&king f-bomb. Get real! If I want to speak the way I am used to speaking, I will. This is a real world, put on your big-girl panties & deal with it!
mathew

Greeley, CO

#14 Aug 14, 2008
all you who say it is rude and this was wrong and blah blah blah technically we do have a right to freedom of speech nobody can control what comes out of my mouth and if you let someone control what comes out of your mouth you need to stand up for yourself. freedom of speech includes cuss words.. they are words in the english languauge you may not like it but its the truth sometimes the truth hurts so stop being ignorant and accept that fact. i will walk around and say "fuck" all i want and if someone trys to stop me i will simply laugh in your face and be on my way.

“Look me in the eye when talkin”

Since: Jul 07

Katy, Texas

#15 Aug 14, 2008
Brian wrote:
This citation has nothing to do with freedom of speech or any other left wing scenarios. This is a simple case of disorderly conduct, under Texas law this is an offense that can be handled via citation...
Title 9
Chapter 42 Texas penal code
42.01. DISORDERLY CONDUCT.(a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally or knowingly:
(1) uses abusive, indecent, profane, or vulgar language in a public place, and the language by its very utterance tends to incite an immediate breach of the peace;
(2) makes an offensive gesture or display in a public place, and the gesture or display tends to incite an immediate breach of the peace;
(3) creates, by chemical means, a noxious and unreasonable odor in a public place;
(4) abuses or threatens a person in a public place in an obviously offensive manner;
(5) makes unreasonable noise in a public place other than a sport shooting range, as defined by Section 250.001, Local Government Code, or in or near a private residence that he has no
right to occupy;
(6) fights with another in a public place;
(7) discharges a firearm in a public place other than a public road or a sport shooting range, as defined by Section 250.001, Local Government Code;
(8) displays a firearm or other deadly weapon in a public place in a manner calculated to alarm;
(9) discharges a firearm on or across a public road;
(10) exposes his anus or genitals in a public place and is reckless about whether another may be present who will be offended or alarmed by his act; or
(11) for a lewd or unlawful purpose:
(A) enters on the property of another and looks into a dwelling on the property through any window or other opening in the dwelling;
(B) while on the premises of a hotel or
comparable establishment, looks into a guest room not the person's own through a window or other opening in the room; or
(C) while on the premises of a public place, looks into an area such as a restroom or shower stall or changing or dressing room that is designed to provide privacy to a person using
the area.
(b) It is a defense to prosecution under Subsection (a)(4) that the actor had significant provocation for his abusive or threatening conduct.
(c) For purposes of this section:
(1) an act is deemed to occur in a public place or near a private residence if it produces its offensive or proscribed consequences in the public place or near a private residence; and
(2) a noise is presumed to be unreasonable if the noise exceeds a decibel level of 85 after the person making the noise
receives notice from a magistrate or peace officer that the noise is a public nuisance.
(d) An offense under this section is a Class C misdemeanor unless committed under Subsection (a)(7) or (a)(8), in which event
it is a Class B misdemeanor.
(e) It is a defense to prosecution for an offense under Subsection (a)(7) or (9) that the person who discharged the firearm had a reasonable fear of bodily injury to the person or to another
by a dangerous wild animal as defined by Section 822.101, Health and
Safety Code.

“Look me in the eye when talkin”

Since: Jul 07

Katy, Texas

#16 Aug 14, 2008
Disregard the beginning of my post, "Brian wrote" should not be there.
Fed up with the F word

San Antonio, TX

#17 Aug 14, 2008
I'm glad someone stood up to her and asked her to stop. I've done it before and will do it again. I'm no saint, I cuss, but certainly not in public. There's just no excuse for using foul language in public...and the "F" word is one I find particulary offensive. We can get into the fine points of our freedom of speech, but the bottom line is people who cuss in public have no respect for themselves or those around them. It's a matter of decency and maturity to be able to curb your language in public, and apparently this woman is immature. I bet the first time her little two year old says "F**k" she'll him for cussing.
Fed up with the F word

San Antonio, TX

#18 Aug 14, 2008
oops....the last sentence should say "she'll smack him in the mouth for cussing.
Northbound Traveler

Covington, TX

#21 Aug 14, 2008
Exactly!!!
Hey Fed Up

Little Rock, AR

#24 Aug 15, 2008
I, too, am offended by some of the language used in public settings. And, though it might be sexist, particularly by young women. But, then I'm from the south and just feel our young ladies should not behave in such a way. Still, I fear that an inherent problem is in WHO decides WHAT "cussing" is? You mention that you have cussed before, so have I. And who decides that HER cussing is illegal, but your's and mine is not? I happen to say "Hell" all the time. I don't mean it to be cussing. Its just an adjective for me. For me, it expresses the passionate way I feel about a subject. And I do wonder if some public cussing, is not just being that that is the way some people talk all the time. They perhaps don't mean to cuss, its just words they use as adjectives everyday. I know people who say "damn" in just about every other sentence. I also have friends who use "bitch", as an affectionate term. Now, this perhaps may demonstrate a deeper need in our country regarding the way we speak and converse with one another. But, for eons teen-agers have always come up with their own dialect and used words offensive in nature as part of their way to define their generation as distinct. I guess, my view is that I'm more interested in the person's intention when speaking, which of course I admit is more difficultly sujective. I mean, I feel its more of did you INTEND to offend, or was it accidental?
Desi

Baytown, TX

#25 Aug 15, 2008
This type of talk is normal for some folks.
Just trashy folks !
Desi

Baytown, TX

#26 Aug 15, 2008
Northbound Traveler wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe you are correct: Freedom of speech means we are free to voice our opinions!
Using profanity in public is not only rude, can be abusive (which is just perfect for your 2 year old to hear so you can have a reason to beat the poor child when you hear her use it), and against the law in some areas (if not all).
According to reports, if this woman would have stopped when warned, it would have ended there. The problem is, kids AND adults are loosing the concept of respect. When I was younger (which wasn't THAT long ago), people did not curse in front of me in public places. They had more respect for children. I also knew that if I cursed in front of my parents (or showed disrespect to ANYONE!!!) I would get swift punishment. Disrespect was just not allowed. Now days, children are disrespectful to parents and everyone else because the parents have not taught them to respect - OR - the children hang out with other disrespectful youth - OR - both!
We wonder what is wrong with our society? Hmmm....
Excellent points.......all comes down to respect.
Desi

Baytown, TX

#27 Aug 15, 2008
yellehs wrote:
Dude - Freedom of speech - there is no such thing as a f*&king f-bomb. Get real! If I want to speak the way I am used to speaking, I will. This is a real world, put on your big-girl panties & deal with it!
Dude......I'll bet your alot of fun to be around !

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