Traffic study reveals need for signal...

Traffic study reveals need for signal at Panorama and Hamilton

There are 35 comments on the Alamogordo Daily News story from Aug 10, 2012, titled Traffic study reveals need for signal at Panorama and Hamilton. In it, Alamogordo Daily News reports that:

The Alamogordo City Commission might set in motion plans to install a stop light at the intersection of Hamilton Road and Panorama Avenue.

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Dandylion

Albuquerque, NM

#1 Aug 12, 2012
We need a light on Washington & 1st street !
Nope

Alamogordo, NM

#2 Aug 12, 2012
Dandylion wrote:
We need a light on Washington & 1st street !
That will never happen and I don't think it should ever happen. You would not even go a full block after Cuba and before Canyon and you'd have ANOTHER light? That's just plain idiotic. Especially when it has a right turn yield lane already. That is something I would fight against rather than have three lights in the span of about one city block.

If you have trouble turning left, just go right and make a turn back in one of the crossovers. Simple as that for folks who leave their houses in a timely manner rather than waiting to the last minute and trying to rush. Plus, you have numerous other options for getting where you need to go rather than just depending on Washington. Get a city map and keep it in your car.

“Our nearest star”

Since: May 09

Alamogordo, NM

#3 Aug 12, 2012
The same thing for this light they want to but on Hamilton and Panorama. Traffic is going to back up right in front of Chilis and the car wash from that light on Panorama and White Sands; too many traffic lights will cause traffic to jam up and not flow properly.
Bro

Alamogordo, NM

#4 Aug 12, 2012
We also need a Carls Jr.
Dandylion

Albuquerque, NM

#5 Aug 12, 2012
Nope wrote:
<quoted text>
That will never happen and I don't think it should ever happen. You would not even go a full block after Cuba and before Canyon and you'd have ANOTHER light? That's just plain idiotic. Especially when it has a right turn yield lane already. That is something I would fight against rather than have three lights in the span of about one city block.
If you have trouble turning left, just go right and make a turn back in one of the crossovers. Simple as that for folks who leave their houses in a timely manner rather than waiting to the last minute and trying to rush. Plus, you have numerous other options for getting where you need to go rather than just depending on Washington. Get a city map and keep it in your car.
sorry meant Washington & Indian wells , I dont have problems getting on Indian wells , have seen to many near accidents in front of me , the party of people in front of me had kids in the car ,they are the ones that would of been hurt or in this instance would of been killed .
Nope

Alamogordo, NM

#6 Aug 12, 2012
Dandylion wrote:
<quoted text> sorry meant Washington & Indian wells , I dont have problems getting on Indian wells , have seen to many near accidents in front of me , the party of people in front of me had kids in the car ,they are the ones that would of been hurt or in this instance would of been killed .
Okay, that makes a little more sense. But even there, it's a matter of people wanting to rush out rather than taking their time. In a case like that, I don't care how many people build up behind me, if I have my child in the car, I'm going to take as much time as I need to be safe. And I'll sit behind for as long as I need to in order for other people to be safe themselves. For people that have a true problem, it would be better for them just to take side streets until they have worked up to one like Florida with lights.

“Our nearest star”

Since: May 09

Alamogordo, NM

#7 Aug 12, 2012
For starters, Washington/Indian Wells is only two lane road. If people would quit trying to make two lanes at the north end of it(one making left turns, other making right ones), it wouldn't be a problem. You just need patience and wait for traffic to clear before making that left turn.
Dandylion

Albuquerque, NM

#8 Aug 12, 2012
patience or no patience ,I think a light is needed IMO!
Bro

Alamogordo, NM

#9 Aug 12, 2012
and a carls Jr. Possibly at the light. Get a burger while you wait.
BRO LAM

Alamogordo, NM

#10 Aug 12, 2012
Carls Jr sucks. All you'll get here is another bunch of sex offeders on parole, and a low life manager running the place.

Lights, yup, this town needs more lights like I need another azzhole.

But come they will, it is inevitable, because the idiots who bulldozed the street layout 50 years ago was smokin crack, and hitting the bottle.

And this was what he left you with, an unrepairable nghtmare
BRO LAM

Alamogordo, NM

#11 Aug 12, 2012
Just west of tenth st, whattya got, a freakin obstacle that hamstrings all north south running streets.

First and Florida, another dummy screw-up, what the hell did they have in mind here?

Bottom line. close Holloman, fold up this town like a red headed step sister, and move on.

Bulldoze the entire town, and start over. It might be cheaper in the long run. That is, for whomever is left here, which will be nobody if HAFB leaves.

Maybe it's best to go back to cowboys, and indians?
BRO LAM

Alamogordo, NM

#12 Aug 12, 2012
Meant to say just "north" of tenth street. Some shithole school disrupted much of midtown north-south traffic.

Who was the imbecile who did this brilliant street layout?
still dancin

Ruidoso, NM

#13 Aug 16, 2012
Traffic study reveal need for driving lessons...
Bro

Alamogordo, NM

#14 Aug 16, 2012
still dancin wrote:
Traffic study reveal need for driving lessons...
And a Carl Jr.
Man in the mirror

Alamogordo, NM

#15 Aug 22, 2012
This is just too funny. Or is it?

The one commisioner mentions that they spent money on what they already knew? And let's not go any further with costs.

But let's go ahead, and flush $50,000 of the taxpayer's money down the toilet anyway.

Seems this city loves to just give our money away to so many out of town firms for what they "supposedly already knew".

Irresponsible is what it is called, when such monies are thrown around like small nickels, and dimes.

$50,000 could've have been allocated for many other needed projects, such as weed abatement. Or is this deluded city going to continue to turn a blind eye, ignore such blights, depend on "imaginary" citizens to hypothetically maintain run down streets, alleys, curbs, gutters, sidewalks, alleys with the weeds sprouting.

These "little" outlays add up. Or is this city in such fine financial shape, that it can afford such waste of monies?

I think we all aready know the answers.

You have a fine bunch holding the reigns here, don't cha?
Man in the mirror

Alamogordo, NM

#16 Aug 22, 2012
My advice for such, would've been to bring this issue up at a general public meting. The advice, and suggestions would've cost nothing.

As I see it, a stop light, that this so called professional company, and study (That totally wasted $50K IMO) would hinder traffic even further, and make an even larger mess of this area.

Here's the simple, and much much cheaper solution:

I'm sure many of you folks have seen the Stop Signs, with Battery/Solar Red Flashing Lights at Florida Ave., and Hwy 82?

The cost for the materials, and the labor, this would cos a lot less money, and would permit a "fair" flow of traffic from either Panorama, and Hamilton.

It is an area that seems to have a higher probability of accidents occuring, and this stop sign would slow the lead foot maniacs who like flying eastbound on Panorama after negotiating the left hand turn from White Sands Blvd.

There is no simple cure, and my "fix" appears to be the least expensive, and logical solution of all.

There would be two such stop signs, one also placed to stop westbound traffic on Panorama at Hamilton.

Yes, it will only permit one car at a time to exit from Hamilton onto Panorama, but this seems better than what currently exists.
Not Gonna Happen

Alamogordo, NM

#17 Aug 22, 2012
City rejects traffic light at intersection
Alamogordo Daily News
By John Bear, Staff Writer alamogordonews.com
Posted: 08/21/2012 10:23:17 PM MDT

The city will not move forward with plans to install a traffic signal at an intersection on the south side of the city.

The Alamogordo City Commission voted against installing lights at the intersection of Hamilton Road and Panorama Avenue, which lies just east of South White Sands Boulevard.

Mayor Susie Galea and Mayor Pro-Tem Ed Cole voted against the motion to not place a traffic light.

Galea, who represents the district in which the intersection lies, said she is in favor of a light being installed.

"There could be a light there that's timed to make it a lot faster and safer for those who are using that intersection," Galea said. "I don't think it's that safe."

Galea said the city had previously contracted with an outside firm to conduct a traffic study of the area. It recommended installing a traffic light.

Galea said she voted in part because the study recommended a light be installed at the intersection.

"I'm deferring to the experts," Galea said. "The city spent $50,000 for the traffic study to be done. Why would the city spend $50,000 for a traffic study to be done, only for the commission not to listen to the experts?"

District 4 Commissioner Josh Rardin, one of five commissioners who voted against installing a traffic light, said the project would have wasted taxpayer money. He also said the study itself was "$50,000 to tell us what we already knew."

He said installing a traffic light at the intersection would cost about $350,000. "That's why I voted against it," Rardin said. "I don't think it's necessary to spend that kind of money on that intersection."

Rardin said he favors realigning the intersection with exits from nearby restaurants and making the intersection a four-way stop. He said that would cost far less, about $65,000 to $70,000 to complete.

The firm that conducted the study also considered the installation of a round-about and a four-way stop, but recommended a traffic light.

The study also calls for additional lanes in both directions on Panorama Avenue. A traffic light would connect to the one currently set up at White Sands Boulevard and Panorama Avenue, just west of the intersection in question.

Since: Sep 08

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#18 Aug 22, 2012
60 - 70 thousand dollars to install 4 stop signs. Who is installing these signs Midas.
posole momma

Alamogordo, NM

#19 Aug 22, 2012
back to indian wells and washington.
I thought there was a study and finalization to put a round about from washington to pecan? I remember it a while back, but not sure if it was ever a go?
Actually

Alamogordo, NM

#20 Aug 22, 2012
posole momma wrote:
back to indian wells and washington.
I thought there was a study and finalization to put a round about from washington to pecan? I remember it a while back, but not sure if it was ever a go?
A roundabout there? That would be incredibly stupid.

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