Scuffle breaks out at La Habra Heights City Hall between ex-councilman's wife and candidate

Mar 7, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: San Gabriel Valley Tribune

A scuffle between a defeated city council candidate and the wife of an ex-council member occurred Thursday afternoon at City Hall following the final count of votes from Tuesday's election.

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ole Bob

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Mar 7, 2013
 

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Unlike a La Habra Heights Improvement Association meeting, counting ballots are open to anyone to view. It is a public function. Any person at this function can be recorded, even if they don't like it. This woman from Brea that has caused a scuffle should be arrested, tried, convicted, and sent directly to jail. Do not pass GO.
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Mar 7, 2013
 
ole Bob wrote:
Unlike a La Habra Heights Improvement Association meeting, counting ballots are open to anyone to view. It is a public function. Any person at this function can be recorded, even if they don't like it. This woman from Brea that has caused a scuffle should be arrested, tried, convicted, and sent directly to jail. Do not pass GO.
You should watch the tape. To bad it was not recorded in HD. The lady needs help.
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Mar 8, 2013
 
I thought they left the city? The tape should be made public as a matter of record. Mrs. Vipperman would do herself an extreme service to stay home and heal her heavy personal wounds instead of lashing out her hatred (which has to be love, whatelse can it be) against Edwards. Anger severely misplaced. It appears that since February the Vippermans are calling themselves "residents" when they "live" elsewhere according to their own public record made last year when Mr. Vipperman resigned. Do they love to create trouble? Is that why they are back? To continue to make trouble? Looks that way. Watch out LHH, this is a volitile and dangerous situation revisited.
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Mar 8, 2013
 
MarchVipperMadness wrote:
I thought they left the city? The tape should be made public as a matter of record. Mrs. Vipperman would do herself an extreme service to stay home and heal her heavy personal wounds instead of lashing out her hatred (which has to be love, whatelse can it be) against Edwards. Anger severely misplaced. It appears that since February the Vippermans are calling themselves "residents" when they "live" elsewhere according to their own public record made last year when Mr. Vipperman resigned. Do they love to create trouble? Is that why they are back? To continue to make trouble? Looks that way. Watch out LHH, this is a volitile and dangerous situation revisited.
Plan is to release a portion of the video later today. I am currently on another assignment and the video has to be reviewed by legal.
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Mar 8, 2013
 
OMG. Here the city had some peaceful times since the Vippermans dropped out. Why are they back torturing the community again? Hate mongering not wanted here. Please Vippermans, take the hint, stay home.
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Mar 8, 2013
 
So we know about filming in public places, here are the rules:
Members of the public have virtually no privacy rights when they are in public places. Basically, anyone can be photographed without consent except when they have secluded themselves in places where they have a reasonable expectation of privacy such as dressing rooms, restrooms, medical facilities, or inside a private residence. This legal standard applies regardless of the age, sex, or other attributes of the individual.
Okay Mrs. Vipperman, get it? You cannot go bonkers on the cameraman unless you are in or on the potty.
Show us the video

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Mar 9, 2013
 
SO lets see it. Looks like the years have not been too kind to the old lady..

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Mar 9, 2013
 
Show us the video wrote:
SO lets see it. Looks like the years have not been too kind to the old lady..
Can’t release the video. Los Angeles County Sheriff Department does not want it public until they finish interviewing all the witnesses. I will post updates on twitter: https://twitter.com/LaHabraHeights

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Mar 10, 2013
 
The sheriff cannot keep sweeping this sort of thing under the rug as if it were a “boys will be boys” scuffle. Unless they take decisive action, someone is eventually going to get killed or seriously injured. Even if everything George’s enemies have said about him were true, it would still be no justification for physical violence. By all accounts, he was peacefully exercising his fundamental civil rights at a public meeting held in a public building when this attack occurred.

Why would anyone think that they could get away with committing a violent crime in a public building in front of witnesses and knowing that the entire thing was being recorded on video -- unless they thought their political connections gave them some sort of immunity from prosecution?
As long as they think that, the violence will continue.
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Mar 10, 2013
 
Concerned Citizen wrote:
The sheriff cannot keep sweeping this sort of thing under the rug as if it were a “boys will be boys” scuffle. Unless they take decisive action, someone is eventually going to get killed or seriously injured. Even if everything George’s enemies have said about him were true, it would still be no justification for physical violence. By all accounts, he was peacefully exercising his fundamental civil rights at a public meeting held in a public building when this attack occurred.
Why would anyone think that they could get away with committing a violent crime in a public building in front of witnesses and knowing that the entire thing was being recorded on video -- unless they thought their political connections gave them some sort of immunity from prosecution?
As long as they think that, the violence will continue.
Why would she think that?

Because it has already happened several times.

In 2010, the La Habra Heights Improvement Association physically jumped and attacked George Edwards when he attended their annual "Public" meeting.

There were two independent videos and eyewitness reports, yet the DA said "insufficient evidence".

Of interest, one of the perps was ex-cop Jeffrey Heintz, LHHIA Treasurer, and Karen Vipperman is seen screaming and shouting along with the gang.

See video of attack here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Do you think there was "insufficient evidence"?

Do you think it will happen again this time, with even more independent video recordings and witnesses?
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Mar 10, 2013
 
Concerned Citizen wrote:
The sheriff cannot keep sweeping this sort of thing under the rug as if it were a “boys will be boys” scuffle. Unless they take decisive action, someone is eventually going to get killed or seriously injured. Even if everything George’s enemies have said about him were true, it would still be no justification for physical violence. By all accounts, he was peacefully exercising his fundamental civil rights at a public meeting held in a public building when this attack occurred.
Why would anyone think that they could get away with committing a violent crime in a public building in front of witnesses and knowing that the entire thing was being recorded on video -- unless they thought their political connections gave them some sort of immunity from prosecution?
As long as they think that, the violence will continue.
So true, but on the other hand, a rational person with political influence would be a tad bit more careful. Obviously this woman has some serious issues. People just don't behave like that over and over again unless they have some severe mental issues. Where is her husband in this sad event? Standing on the side lines watching (or enabling) her to make a specticle of herself?
What kind of husband would stand back and watch his wife dispel anger in public over and over again? I will tell you what kind, a very bad husband. Shame on Howard Vipperman for egging her on at the February CC meeting. Bit of advice Mr. Vipperman, get out of LHH and help your wife. You can both help each other if you want to. Somehow, I think you both enjoy the sick drama.
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Mar 11, 2013
 
Would signing an affidavit that you live in the city when you do not, would that be considered voter fraud? Or, by claiming 2 residential properties in 2 different cities as your primary residence, would that be another kind of fraud? Curious.
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Mar 14, 2013
 
This certainly shows a women who needs medical help now. How can she say Edwardz provoked it?

http://youtu.be/EB7L0SnGap8 via @youtube #ugly
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Mar 14, 2013
 
a thousand words wrote:
This certainly shows a women who needs medical help now. How can she say Edwardz provoked it?
http://youtu.be/EB7L0SnGap8 via @youtube #ugly
Assuming the tape is edited, looks like she came out of nowhere and attacked the camera. Dubtful the tape was edited but where is the SOUND?
Is this Insanity or What

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Regarding the city council meeting 3/14/2013. What a total debauchery and embarrassment the Vippermans are making of this city and their awful tragedy of their son's suicide. What on earth are their motives for bringing their tragedy to the city council meetings and the residents for the past two months? This is totally inappropriate and so concerning for any rational people who belong to this city who are wondering about the mental health of this family. When their psychologist (who was not a party or witness to the "event" discussed) gets in front of the podium and declares "wrong doings" by the accused (the camerman), and claims his "patient" got a "concussion" for attacking a camerman, this seems to be pure gross ethical professional negligence for a "doctor", discussing a "patients" conditon. Rather, for any "rational" person, this is pure sociopathic "staging" for two possibilities: Either Karen Vipperman is facing assault charges or she is manipulating and fabricating a case against Mr. Edwards and are using the community for sympathy, which is fraudulent. Or, they are so frenzied with depression, out of control emotions, misplaced reality and hallucinations. Either way, this "doctor" has crossed an ethical line and should be reported because he was either "paid" to spread lies, or "paid" to create false facts manipulating sympathy for a very sick person in a very unethical way. To the Vipperman family, please, alot of us want you to go home to Brea, heal your wounds, get better and stop degrading yourself to maniac lunacy. We feel for you, but feel your own pain at home and heal. Please. LHH does not want your dirty personal laundry made public. Stop and stop now. You have serious issues. The city does not need nor want them. Neither do the citizens.
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Mar 14, 2013
 
Some freaky stuff going on. Weird scary freaky stuff.
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Mar 15, 2013
 
Was I watching a pitiful soap opera or the city council meeting last night? Serious sick issues going on.
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Mar 15, 2013
 
Dr. Jonathon Fierce, friend of the Vipperman’s , will likely face a defamation lawsuit for the slanderous and completely false statement he made regarding Mr. Edwards at the March City Council meeting. The alleged witnesses who claim to have heard this slanderous statement are also now subject to a defamation lawsuit.

This is quite a serious offense. Any further comments of this nature regarding Mr. Edwards should cease immediately.
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Apr 8, 2013
 
"Dr. Jonathon Fierce, friend of the Vipperman’s , will likely face a defamation lawsuit for the slanderous and completely false statement he made regarding Mr. Edwards at the March City Council meeting. The alleged witnesses who claim to have heard this slanderous statement are also now subject to a defamation lawsuit.

This is quite a serious offense. Any further comments of this nature regarding Mr. Edwards should cease immediately."

LEGAL ADVISOR SHOULD GO GET LEGAL ADVICE. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING GEORGE EDWARDZ TRY AND FILE A CLAIM. BUT OF COURSE HE WON'T. ALL BARK AND NO BITE FOR EDWARDZ.

EDWARDZ IS A LIAR, LOSER WHO SHOULD BE RUN OUT OF TOWN. CAN'T WIN PUBLIC OFFICE BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF THE CITY HATES HIM.
Is this Insanity or What

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Apr 15, 2013
 
Happy Guy wrote:
"Dr. Jonathon Fierce, friend of the Vipperman’s , will likely face a defamation lawsuit for the slanderous and completely false statement he made regarding Mr. Edwards at the March City Council meeting. The alleged witnesses who claim to have heard this slanderous statement are also now subject to a defamation lawsuit.
This is quite a serious offense. Any further comments of this nature regarding Mr. Edwards should cease immediately."
LEGAL ADVISOR SHOULD GO GET LEGAL ADVICE. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING GEORGE EDWARDZ TRY AND FILE A CLAIM. BUT OF COURSE HE WON'T. ALL BARK AND NO BITE FOR EDWARDZ.
EDWARDZ IS A LIAR, LOSER WHO SHOULD BE RUN OUT OF TOWN. CAN'T WIN PUBLIC OFFICE BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF THE CITY HATES HIM.
The majority of the city also do not like or support the Vipperman's as well. They should leave town too. Instead they are coming back to cause a whole lot of usual trouble they so much love to do.

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