Letter: Stop Keystone pipeline

Letter: Stop Keystone pipeline

There are 8 comments on the Argus Leader story from Feb 28, 2014, titled Letter: Stop Keystone pipeline. In it, Argus Leader reports that:

A lot of time has passed, and cleanup efforts dealing with the tar sands oil spills in the Yellowstone River in Montana and the Kalamazoo River in Michigan continue.

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Melissa

United States

#1 Mar 1, 2014
wow
bob s

Sioux Falls, SD

#2 Mar 2, 2014
hope you pay $10.00 per gal. for gas
Nemo

Pine Ridge, SD

#3 Mar 3, 2014
bob s wrote:
hope you pay $10.00 per gal. for gas
Canadian Tar Sand Oil is “foreign oil” being transported to oil refineries to be refined and then sold on the world market. Yes, more oil entering the world market might drive prices down but with a tightening of the OPEC oil spigot the oil price will remain high coupled along with an ever increased world demand. Any oil that comes on line increasing demand likely picks it right up.
Canadian Tar Sand oil is not the nicest stuff to handle or attempt to refine. When refined it creates a lot of pollutants. Then it winds up being a more heavier road tar and roofing tar rather than gas. Plus Most of it is heading oversea. It will have little effect on gas prices.
#1. Tar sand oil is filthy stuff. Don’t take my word for it “google it” and read about what it is and what it causes when refined.
It’s far nastier to deal with and refine than normal crude oil. Sweet crude is nice stuff compared to tar sand oil.
There is always a danger with a pipe line break. I can fully understand why no landowner wants his property tore up and then face the possibility of a leak.
#2. Tar sand oil filthy stuff and when refined creates an environmental mess. When refining it creates far more pollutants than regular crude oil.
#3. Tar sand oil is filthy stuff and does not help the USA in any manner become energy independent. Like I said, it’s Canadian tar sand oil. It’s foreign tar oil from Canada and remains the property of Canada oil companies to be sold to the highest bidder after the USA takes the pipeline risks and the refinery pollutant risks. Most of it will not even be sold or used in the USA. We allow the country to be split with a pipeline that at some point will leak. Will that pipeline be removed in a hundred years or will it remain there with low spots holding pools of tar sand.
Even if they flush the pipe will never be clean. It will remain in place with some environmental danger.
#4. Jobs? Maybe some Canadians will show up to put in the pipe line - temporary workers - after that maybe a few pipe line inspectors and a few refinery workers. Is it worth the risk?
#5. This is nothing but a big oil venture that the USA citizens take all the risk and get very little benefit from. The jobs argument is weak at best compared to the risks and benefits.
#6. Why not let Canada refine the tar oil themselves, keep the nasty filthy stuff in Canada, until refined thus keeping the environmental hazards it presents and pollutants caused when refining it.
#7. I would a lot rather see the finished product if it’s gas trucked or railroaded in after it is refined rather than assume all the risks for the possibility of a few jobs. More jobs would be created if we brought the finished product in by truck or rail.
Nemo

Pine Ridge, SD

#4 Mar 3, 2014
bob s wrote:
hope you pay $10.00 per gal. for gas
"Keystone Pipeline" (Phase 1) and "Keystone-Cushing Extension" (Phase 2), and two proposed Keystone XL pipeline expansion (phase 4) segments. Later after the Keystone XL pipeline segments are completed, American crude oil would enter the XL pipelines at Baker, Montana and Cushing, Oklahoma.

Stop and THINK.

•All these pipelines are an export pipelines to put that oil available to a higher world market.
When ND oil enters the pipeline it will increase prices here because mid-west refineries have been getting it cheaper.

We actually should get cheaper prices than we do because the oil is close, the refinery is close and we produce more oil in this area than we can use.

•By draining Midwestern refineries of cheap Canadian crude into export-oriented refineries in the Gulf Coast, Keystone XL will increase the cost of gas for Americans. Understand this point. We get cheaper oil to refine in Newcastle, WY & Casper, WY because it costs to ship it to a larger demand market. That would change if and when a pipeline becomes available to a world market.

Bakken North Dakota oil. Will it make a difference? Yes because the price will not include shipping across the sea. Oil prices paid by U.S. refineries in the Gulf do move with global prices but not in lockstep. Despite a recent reduction in U.S. refinery capacity, increasing North American production would lower refinery acquisition costs. No question it will help but let’s not exaggerate the amount there that is known to be recoverable.

The U.S. market is becoming somewhat separate and less wholly determined by global conditions; hence, more domestic production and increased access to Canadian oil would lower U.S. oil and prices—more drilling in the Gulf and elsewhere in North America, and the Keystone pipeline would significantly affect gas prices and employment.

Right now the Midwest can produce more oil than we can use in the midwest. The market demand is elsewhere and a pipeline to Texas refinery’s moves it there where once refined it can be shipped by sea to either coast or to whoever the buyer is.. The oil once in the pipe line is heading for a larger market including the world market. China – India are increasing their demand faster than other countries.
Norski

Rochester, MN

#5 Sep 25, 2014
There have been 9 incidences of oil train derailments. Take a look around the country and see the vast number of existing buried pipelines already in existence. We, as a nation and economy require competition of existing fuels. The use of oil and gas is still very much on a dependent nation. I commend the research to find better ways to reduce our dependency. However, this research and development can not be at the cost of our economy to reach goals or directives that can not be obtained.
Mike Jablonski

Kingman, AZ

#6 Jan 25, 2015
Ask Canada why they wont pipe it across their own country .
ZOMBIE STRAYS

Perris, CA

#7 Feb 2, 2015
OMG,its like,these educated men and women who are lawyers no less,in CONGRESS,go STUPID on us all when $$$'s and EGO come into the equation..PLEEEZE,,DEePWATER horizon Was real,and can you imagine a fire added to it? GO GOOGLE pipeline fires ..they burn and corrode your lungs SOO FAST...End Keystone pronto...
ZOMBIE STRAYS

Perris, CA

#8 Feb 2, 2015
Norski wrote:
There have been 9 incidences of oil train derailments. Take a look around the country and see the vast number of existing buried pipelines already in existence. We, as a nation and economy require competition of existing fuels. The use of oil and gas is still very much on a dependent nation. I commend the research to find better ways to reduce our dependency. However, this research and development can not be at the cost of our economy to reach goals or directives that can not be obtained.
ZERO TOLERANCE..is and must be the attitude on this..BECAUSE once DONE..NEVER UNDONE...this isnt ALASKA...this is at the HEART of the USA...SERIOUSLY..it is...it would become the NEXT "FIRST TERROR ATTACK SPOT"..GOOGLE bombed or exploded oil pipelines...go do it...you want that???..what if a plane or meteor or some bizarre act of god occurs to it??...not worth it...OPEC is driving the world to better safer methods anyway..givevit more TIME...theres oil everywhere thru frakking ..let the dakota formations "sit".....

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