Letters to the Editor - Hawaii Editor...

Letters to the Editor - Hawaii Editorials

There are 34 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Nov 23, 2009, titled Letters to the Editor - Hawaii Editorials. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

Amid the furor about our education system and how to pay for it, it is important to remember one thing: For a democracy to survive, a well-educated citizenry is essential.

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Get the truth out

Honolulu, HI

#1 Nov 23, 2009
The 1/2 percent that is collected on Oahu only belongs to Honolulu, except for the exorbinate fee the state charges the county to collect the tax. It is in fact a county tax and does not belong to the state and the legislature cannot take it for state purposes. The other counties do not pay that portion of the tax. The rest of the state does not pay for Oahu's rail or the tax.
swannie

Ocean View, HI

#2 Nov 23, 2009
Transshipping outer island cargo is taxed in Honolulu, so don't say that it's honolulu's money exclusively. Call the project what it is, a development scam to build on the best farm land in the state and jam another 30,000 cars on the parking lot.
M Simpsons Right

Honolulu, HI

#3 Nov 23, 2009
I applaud and agree with Simpson's letter.

That State collected the .5% GE tax hike increase on Oahu, BUT it impacted the entire state as most if not all goods and services transit in and thru Oahu, affecting the entire state, except it was hidden has hiked costs in the outer islands. But it did, does and will continue to impact the entire state.

It is dishonest and misleading for mufi's hacks to say, no, it was only extorted on Oahu, so it should be spent on Oahu only. Bogus.

It is the STATE, with the POWER to collect, and that did COLLECT that tax, that holds the POWER to spend it too.

Finally, with even that tax plummeting, there is no money for mufi's scheme to enrich union stiffs and remind them at the Labor Day Lard Luau to vote for him to become the next Governor of a broke, bankrupt State.

Mahalo, Mayor Mufi.
bumpercrop

Kaneohe, HI

#4 Nov 23, 2009
Lois Gill should know by now that the U.S. is no longer a democracy. Neither here in Hawaii or in DC. And it is going to get worse. Just wait and see. And you the voters have caused this both in Hawaii and DC.

Since: Nov 09

Kula, HI

#5 Nov 23, 2009
If we were to believe Lois Gill, then the future of the world hinges on the question of restoring the furlough days or not. I don't think so. What she should focus on is the education that was provided in the pre-furlough era. That was when Hawaii ranked near the top in per student funding and near the bottom in results. That should be of more concern than the furlough days.
But even that doesn't translate to the end of democracy.
realist

AOL

#6 Nov 23, 2009
Geneva of the Pacific; OK but when one thinks of Geneva one also thinks of a business friendly tax system. Hawaii is no Geneva, in fact, we have the highest taxes in the US with a 15% sales tax equivalent (the GE tax pyramids and covers ALL transactions) and our marginal income tax of 11% at $250k beats even CA and NY and NJ. We can do a lot to make Hawaii a better and more attractive place but talking about a geographical position is far from being a business or political center.
Nutso

Honolulu, HI

#7 Nov 23, 2009
I read Simpson's letter about GET revenue twice and it still doesn't make any sense. Why do they print this krap?
Nutzi

Honolulu, HI

#8 Nov 23, 2009
Nutso wrote:
I read Simpson's letter about GET revenue twice and it still doesn't make any sense. Why do they print this krap?
If you worked for or on mufi, I can appreciate why it wouldn't make any sense to you either.

Or, more correctly, why you would feign or pretend it does not make any sense to you either.

When is mufi going to jump ship and bail and run for lower office?
BuildRailNow

Mililani, HI

#9 Nov 23, 2009
M. Simpson, the transit tax should be used for the State's purposes? That is amazingly off the mark and can't possibly be defended. The transit tax was created for a specific purpose and that purpose is well-defined and established.

"If Honolulu wants a rail, let it pay for it." That's exactly what Oahu residents are doing -- paying an increased GET tax for one purpose and one purpose alone, to build rail.

Keep the State's hands off transit!
BuildRailNow

Mililani, HI

#10 Nov 23, 2009
swannie wrote:
Transshipping outer island cargo is taxed in Honolulu, so don't say that it's honolulu's money exclusively. Call the project what it is, a development scam to build on the best farm land in the state and jam another 30,000 cars on the parking lot.
That's pretty funny -- to think rail is being created to INCREASE cars. Just the opposite, swannie. Rail will give families a reason to give up one or more cars.

Keep thinking about why rail is needed. You'll get it sooner or later.
alice

United States

#11 Nov 23, 2009
rail will sink island finances
Kailuaresident

Kaneohe, HI

#12 Nov 23, 2009
M Simpsons Right wrote:
I applaud and agree with Simpson's letter.
That State collected the .5% GE tax hike increase on Oahu, BUT it impacted the entire state as most if not all goods and services transit in and thru Oahu, affecting the entire state, except it was hidden has hiked costs in the outer islands. But it did, does and will continue to impact the entire state.
It is dishonest and misleading for mufi's hacks to say, no, it was only extorted on Oahu, so it should be spent on Oahu only. Bogus.
It is the STATE, with the POWER to collect, and that did COLLECT that tax, that holds the POWER to spend it too.
Finally, with even that tax plummeting, there is no money for mufi's scheme to enrich union stiffs and remind them at the Labor Day Lard Luau to vote for him to become the next Governor of a broke, bankrupt State.
Mahalo, Mayor Mufi.
The other isalnds are free to build tehir own shipping facilites if theyw ant to avoid the extra .5 GET on Oahu. But if they are going to sue our facilities then they should help to pay for our transportation needs.
The tax is a County tax (the Council imposed it, not the legislature). It must stay with the County.
glenn paul

Johnson City, NY

#13 Nov 23, 2009
alice wrote:
rail will sink island finances
Aloha Alice. In all your comments, you make a brief statement. Just for the heck of it, why don't you also briefly explain your thinking on your statement so we can understand where you are coming from.

Since: Feb 08

Vacaville, CA

#14 Nov 23, 2009
"Society needs educated voters"
Although I agree with the writer on that! We also need non-self serving, and non-corrupt representatives of the electorate!
Short Round

Honolulu, HI

#15 Nov 23, 2009
In her belief that Society needs educated voters, Lois Gill uses the phrase, "As we chip away at school curricula" never realizing that DOE REFUSES to establish ANY curriculum for any subject at any grade level, meanwhile consuming billions of dollars that are dumped into this fiscal black hole with no questions asked. Every attempt at an audit is stonewalled as for example:

"Management Audit Finds DOE's Hawaiian Studies Program Lacks Accountability, Says There is No Evidence of Effectiveness
By Hawaii State Auditor, January, 2008
Summary
We conducted this audit in response to Senate Concurrent Resolution No. 74, Senate Draft 1, of the 2007 legislative session, calling for a financial, program, and management audit of the Hawaiian Studies Program.
We found that the role of the Hawaiian Studies Program, especially its kupuna component, has not been clearly defined and is in need of reevaluation. Lacking accountability for the program’s intended outcomes, the Department of Education is unable to show evidence of its effectiveness. In addition, vague guidelines and weak oversight over the schools that receive the bulk of the Hawaiian Studies funds have allowed resources intended to employ küpuna to be diverted to purposes with little or no connection to a Hawaiian education. "
BuildRailNow

Mililani, HI

#16 Nov 23, 2009
alice wrote:
rail will sink island finances
Hooray! lower-case alice is back with her pithy one-line comments. As usual, nothing to back them up, but at least she's still breathing.
Short Round

Honolulu, HI

#17 Nov 23, 2009
glenn paul wrote:
Aloha Alice. In all your comments, you make a brief statement. Just for the heck of it, why don't you also briefly explain your thinking on your statement so we can understand where you are coming from.
She is physically unable to explain her thinking for a very simple reason: one cannot give what one does not have. She is a piece of spin drift tossed this way and that on the storm generated waves of her harmone driven emotions.
observer

Kihei, HI

#18 Nov 23, 2009
The letters from Lois Gill and M. Simpson are related, in a way. Ms. Gill says "society needs eduated voters". This is so we can make reasoned decisions based on fact and accurate information. On the other hand, M. Simpson is totally mis-informed and thinks the GET surcharge comes from the entire state rather than Oahu. If the tax is paid by residents from Oahu, it should be spent on Oahu. Wonder what Bart Simpson thinks?
mario

Kihei, HI

#19 Nov 23, 2009
Rail collection is off target now. With all the furloughs, high unemployment, low tourism, house forclosures, unmaintained roads and sewers, we still don't get the message that we cannot afford to build a train. What about the maintenance after that. Who among our officials are bold enough to say we cannot afford it and start thinking of cheaper alternatives to solve traffic.
I can read alice message.
Short Round

Honolulu, HI

#20 Nov 23, 2009
BuildRailNow wrote:
<quoted text>
Hooray! lower-case alice is back with her pithy one-line comments. As usual, nothing to back them up, but at least she's still breathing.
Don't be too sure.
We are after all in the age of computer simulation and artificial intelligence.
"She" may be nothing but a diaphanous bit of holo-deck imagery conjured up by a VERY lazy software programmer with exceptionally low standards.

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