Jobs, salaries are on cutting board

Across Central Florida, city and county governments are tightening their belts and cutting employees to deal with the expected loss of millions in taxable property values and other revenue. Full Story

“No Swine Here”

Since: May 09

Deluxe Motel Mecca

#1 May 29, 2009
39 hacks making at least a hundred thousand?

I ain't no math wiz, but I figure that out to be $39,000,000.

If you think that is stupid, then tell me how you "save' money by not filling a vacant job?
Math Wiz

Orange Springs, FL

#2 May 29, 2009
No, your not a math wiz... I am. It is actually $3,900,000.
NO MERCY

Orlando, FL

#3 May 29, 2009
Very Popular wrote:
39 hacks making at least a hundred thousand?
I ain't no math wiz, but I figure that out to be $39,000,000.
If you think that is stupid, then tell me how you "save' money by not filling a vacant job?
An FCAT under-achiever....

“No Swine Here”

Since: May 09

Deluxe Motel Mecca

#4 May 29, 2009
NO MERCY wrote:
<quoted text>
An FCAT under-achiever....
didn't take long to get two big thinkers to comment on the obvious, even when I pointed the obvious out.

maybe you two are teachers?

or are you two dimwits keeping your county jobs, as you certainly fit the criteria for a stupid goverment nipple sucker.
delusionole

Winter Park, FL

#5 May 29, 2009
Funny stuff.
School Blues

Orange City, FL

#6 May 29, 2009
Quinones is the dimwit! He is my county commissioneer and if he wants to drop salaries he should be the first to give up his $80,000.00 a year! I voted for this idiot and he is so dumb! I will never make that mistake again. He will win again because he will get the republican party (Jim Greer) to run the hispanic votes out for him!

We need a hispanic who is smart not this Bozo! Where is the democratic candidate to kick him out of office?

Does anyone know the reason (personal) he left Tallahassee after just getting elected as state representative? It is quite the story as I heard it being told in BVL.
Hey_look_what_I_ found

Altamonte Springs, FL

#7 May 29, 2009
Found this bit of information on another web site.
Do the math, and you'll see these folks cost the taxpayers way over 3.9 million,(of course, these numbers don't take their benefits into account).
O S C E O L A C O U N T Y B O C C
Salary over $100,000
Name Title Salary
FREILINGER, MICHAEL J COUNTY MANAGER $214,240.00
JONES, JEFFREY ALLEN SMART GROWTH MANAGER $125,184.38
KNIGHT, ELIZABETH ANNE CHIEF OF STAFF $140,636.12
PEACH, DAVID RANDOLPH ADMIN SERVS DEPT ADMINISTRATOR $141,662.98
SCOTT, RHONDA OFF OF PROCUREMENT SVCS DIR $105,931.90
APFELBAUM, DAVID R RISK MANAGEMENT MANAGER $104,028.29
PEARCE JR, GARY HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR $123,786.00
KHAN, IMTIAZ COMPTROLLER $123,786.00
HOPKINS, SHERYL GROOVER ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY II $119,601.00
NICKERSON JR, GEORGE H ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY II $135,193.51
SANCHEZ DE FUENTES, OLGA MERCE ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY II $119,601.16
STANGLE, KATHLEIN KAY DEPUTY COUNTY ATTORNEY $172,993.60
THACKER, LAURA JO COUNTY ATTORNEY $184,555.57
GARROD, THEODORE A IMPACT FEE COORDINATOR $122,179.20
FISHER, DONALD SANFORD GM ADMINISTRATOR $141,960.00
KRUJAICK, WALTER CUSTOMER RESOURCES MANAGER $111,036.64
GLOSS JR, RICHARD SEYMOUR BUILDING OFFICIAL $103,729.60
NAJDA, MAHMOUD R DEVELOPMENT REVIEW MANAGER $110,760.00
BENNETT, ROBERT WAYNE DEP DIRECTOR OF PLANNING $100,256.00
TOMEK, DAVID F PLANNING/ZONING DIRECTOR $101,400.00
MEEKS JR, GRADY LEE INFORMATION TECH DIR $115,406.72
WALL, KATHERINE A COUNTY AUDITOR $150,054.57
BANASCO, RAUL S DEPUTY DIRECTOR-CORRECTIONS $111,280.00
FUTCH, GREGORY K CORRECTIONS DIRECTOR $124,800.00
PEACH, JOYCE CAROLINE ASSISTANT CORRECTIONS DIRECTOR $117,120.09
COLLINS, RICHARD ALLEN FIRE CHIEF/EMER SVCS DIR $107,770.62
EARP, RICHARD WALSH STORM WATER MANAGER $115,038.98
ANDERSON, JAMES FRANK GENERAL SVCS DIVISION DIRECTOR $112,568.23
ATKINS, KENNETH EDWIN PW ADMINISTRATOR $144,144.00
HIDEN, DANIEL N CHIEF ENGINEER $122,689.12
ZABALLERO, JOEDEL A CHIEF ENGINEER $102,900.00
ZAITOONI, ROBERT B TRAFFIC ENGINEERING MANAGER $117,549.12
HOSTETLER, GREGG ALAN PRINCIPLE PROJECT MANAGER $104,000.00
BOULNOIS, JASON L PRINCIPLE PROJECT MANAGER $104,000.00
GRULICH, MARIA CLARK ECONOMIC DVLP ADMINISTRATOR $157,206.40
LANG, THOMAS F CVB EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR $140,400.00
RADEBAUGH, JAMES LEROY ANIMAL CONTROL DIRECTOR $115,190.40
KILROY, EDWARD A LIBRARY DIRECTOR $112,854.14
MIERS, DONALD D EVENT FACILITIES DIRECTOR $110,240.00
Duh

Oviedo, FL

#8 May 29, 2009
Very Popular wrote:
<quoted text>
didn't take long to get two big thinkers to comment on the obvious, even when I pointed the obvious out.
maybe you two are teachers?
or are you two dimwits keeping your county jobs, as you certainly fit the criteria for a stupid goverment nipple sucker.
Don't attack others just because you're a moron.
soflokid

United States

#9 May 29, 2009
I no longer live in Orlando, but here is my take........ Local Government: This is your boss, the taxpayers. Here is a novel idea; instead of raising taxes and fees to cover your budget shortfalls, reduce spending to the level of your income; just like you would if it was your own money and like the rest of us have to do. You guys need a Finance 101 course. Lesson Number 1: if you don't have it, don't spend it! Do a budget and stick with it. To get out of this budget crunch, you need to make an across the board cut equal to your income and live with it. Period. Our employees; the government, waste too much money and do entirely too much empire building and squandering. The State of Florida and all its entities should have an annual audit by an independent certified public accounting firm. Now that would have some folks shaking in their boots! There is something inherently wrong in a system whose growth rate in its public sector far exceeds the private business growth rate that funds it. These budgetary cuts will force agencies to rethink how they spend our tax dollars. The blank check from us is over guys! And the news gets even better! After you urinate away the federal stimulus money to plug the budget gaps this year, the fat lady will really sing in FY 2010-11. So strap in for a ride. If you cannot restrain your spending, we will do it for you. Who said this economic downturn doesn't have a bright side? And, property values keep on a falling - I love it! I just renewed my lease, and my rent went down $60 a month, the first time this has ever happened in ten years of renting here in South Florida! Carl Snyder, Snyder Consulting Services, Inc., Pembroke Pines, FL snyderconsulting@msn.com
soflokid

United States

#10 May 29, 2009
Hey_look_what_I_found wrote:
Found this bit of information on another web site.
Do the math, and you'll see these folks cost the taxpayers way over 3.9 million,(of course, these numbers don't take their benefits into account).
O S C E O L A C O U N T Y B O C C
Salary over $100,000
Name Title Salary
FREILINGER, MICHAEL J COUNTY MANAGER $214,240.00
JONES, JEFFREY ALLEN SMART GROWTH MANAGER $125,184.38
KNIGHT, ELIZABETH ANNE CHIEF OF STAFF $140,636.12
PEACH, DAVID RANDOLPH ADMIN SERVS DEPT ADMINISTRATOR $141,662.98
SCOTT, RHONDA OFF OF PROCUREMENT SVCS DIR $105,931.90
APFELBAUM, DAVID R RISK MANAGEMENT MANAGER $104,028.29
PEARCE JR, GARY HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR $123,786.00
KHAN, IMTIAZ COMPTROLLER $123,786.00
HOPKINS, SHERYL GROOVER ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY II $119,601.00
NICKERSON JR, GEORGE H ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY II $135,193.51
SANCHEZ DE FUENTES, OLGA MERCE ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY II $119,601.16
STANGLE, KATHLEIN KAY DEPUTY COUNTY ATTORNEY $172,993.60
THACKER, LAURA JO COUNTY ATTORNEY $184,555.57
GARROD, THEODORE A IMPACT FEE COORDINATOR $122,179.20
FISHER, DONALD SANFORD GM ADMINISTRATOR $141,960.00
KRUJAICK, WALTER CUSTOMER RESOURCES MANAGER $111,036.64
GLOSS JR, RICHARD SEYMOUR BUILDING OFFICIAL $103,729.60
NAJDA, MAHMOUD R DEVELOPMENT REVIEW MANAGER $110,760.00
BENNETT, ROBERT WAYNE DEP DIRECTOR OF PLANNING $100,256.00
TOMEK, DAVID F PLANNING/ZONING DIRECTOR $101,400.00
MEEKS JR, GRADY LEE INFORMATION TECH DIR $115,406.72
WALL, KATHERINE A COUNTY AUDITOR $150,054.57
BANASCO, RAUL S DEPUTY DIRECTOR-CORRECTIONS $111,280.00
FUTCH, GREGORY K CORRECTIONS DIRECTOR $124,800.00
PEACH, JOYCE CAROLINE ASSISTANT CORRECTIONS DIRECTOR $117,120.09
COLLINS, RICHARD ALLEN FIRE CHIEF/EMER SVCS DIR $107,770.62
EARP, RICHARD WALSH STORM WATER MANAGER $115,038.98
ANDERSON, JAMES FRANK GENERAL SVCS DIVISION DIRECTOR $112,568.23
ATKINS, KENNETH EDWIN PW ADMINISTRATOR $144,144.00
HIDEN, DANIEL N CHIEF ENGINEER $122,689.12
ZABALLERO, JOEDEL A CHIEF ENGINEER $102,900.00
ZAITOONI, ROBERT B TRAFFIC ENGINEERING MANAGER $117,549.12
HOSTETLER, GREGG ALAN PRINCIPLE PROJECT MANAGER $104,000.00
BOULNOIS, JASON L PRINCIPLE PROJECT MANAGER $104,000.00
GRULICH, MARIA CLARK ECONOMIC DVLP ADMINISTRATOR $157,206.40
LANG, THOMAS F CVB EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR $140,400.00
RADEBAUGH, JAMES LEROY ANIMAL CONTROL DIRECTOR $115,190.40
KILROY, EDWARD A LIBRARY DIRECTOR $112,854.14
MIERS, DONALD D EVENT FACILITIES DIRECTOR $110,240.00
wow, esta much dinero, plus the 7 to 10 percent retirement contributions by the employer.........as i said in my comments, i am sorry we are paying folks way too much money. i have a master degree and twenty years of experience and have never made 100k, forget the benefits.
soflokid

United States

#11 May 29, 2009
Very Popular wrote:
39 hacks making at least a hundred thousand?
I ain't no math wiz, but I figure that out to be $39,000,000.
If you think that is stupid, then tell me how you "save' money by not filling a vacant job?
sorry dude, math 101, its 3.9 million.......
Just a guy

Longwood, FL

#12 May 29, 2009
Very Popular wrote:
39 hacks making at least a hundred thousand?
I ain't no math wiz, but I figure that out to be $39,000,000.
If you think that is stupid, then tell me how you "save' money by not filling a vacant job?
The math issue was already addressed.

The savings is that the vacant position was authorized, and "should" have been filled with the person in the job performing services.

You don't hire the person (leaving the position vacant) and you don't spend the money that was authorized. You also don't buy office supplies, computers, uniforms, etc., for that person. That's all savings.

The cost? Well, assuming that the budget was well designed, then the lack of that person means that less work is being done. Services are reduced, etc. Promises made to the voters (although probably not explicit promises) aren't being kept.

Of course, all this assumes that the budget was not full of fluff.
Just a guy

Longwood, FL

#13 May 29, 2009
Hey_look_what_I_found wrote:
Found this bit of information on another web site.
Do the math, and you'll see these folks cost the taxpayers way over 3.9 million,(of course, these numbers don't take their benefits into account).
O S C E O L A C O U N T Y B O C C
Salary over $100,000
Name Title Salary
FREILINGER, MICHAEL J COUNTY MANAGER $214,240.00
I've deleted the rest of the salary information. The original list is probably easier to read.

The questions you need to ask are

1) Do we need the position, and
2) What would it cost to hire someone for that position.

Assuming that you need the position, you'll need to fill it. And if you don't pay market rates for the position, you'll either not fill the position, or fill it with an incompetent fool. Neither option is a good one.

So, which positions don't you need?
Just a guy

Longwood, FL

#14 May 29, 2009
soflokid wrote:
I no longer live in Orlando, but here is my take........ Local Government: This is your boss, the taxpayers. Here is a novel idea; instead of raising taxes and fees to cover your budget shortfalls, reduce spending to the level of your income; just like you would if it was your own money and like the rest of us have to do. You guys need a Finance 101 course. Lesson Number 1: if you don't have it, don't spend it! Do a budget and stick with it. To get out of this budget crunch, you need to make an across the board cut equal to your income and live with it. Period. Our employees; the government, waste too much money and do entirely too much empire building and squandering. The State of Florida and all its entities should have an annual audit by an independent certified public accounting firm. Now that would have some folks shaking in their boots! There is something inherently wrong in a system whose growth rate in its public sector far exceeds the private business growth rate that funds it. These budgetary cuts will force agencies to rethink how they spend our tax dollars. The blank check from us is over guys! And the news gets even better! After you urinate away the federal stimulus money to plug the budget gaps this year, the fat lady will really sing in FY 2010-11. So strap in for a ride. If you cannot restrain your spending, we will do it for you. Who said this economic downturn doesn't have a bright side? And, property values keep on a falling - I love it! I just renewed my lease, and my rent went down $60 a month, the first time this has ever happened in ten years of renting here in South Florida! Carl Snyder, Snyder Consulting Services, Inc., Pembroke Pines, FL snyderconsulting@msn.com
An across the board cut is a horrible approach. That would be the same as a household facing a 10% shortage cutting their mortgage payments, Blockbuster payments, food payments, and restaurant payments by 10%.

The better approach is to weigh all of your services and cut the ones that are least important or cost effective. And this decision should be made by the representatives of the voters, not by County staff.

Pity that asking politicians to make unpopular decisions doesn't work that well.

BTW, governmental entities in Florida do have annual audits performed by independent CPAs. If you think otherwise, call up the entity and ask for a copy of their audited annual report. The state requires that the audited reports be mailed to the State within a certain time.

And a general rule that should be followed by governments is to use recurring revenue for recurring expenditures, and non-recurring revenues for non-recurring expenditures. The stimulus money is non-recurring. If it's being used to pay for normal operations, the decision makers are screwing up.
Just a guy

Longwood, FL

#15 May 29, 2009
soflokid wrote:
wow, esta much dinero, plus the 7 to 10 percent retirement contributions by the employer.........as i said in my comments, i am sorry we are paying folks way too much money. i have a master degree and twenty years of experience and have never made 100k, forget the benefits.
What's your masters in? If you're qualified to be a County Manager, you'll probably pull in over $200K. Perhaps you're just going for the wrong jobs?

Private sector also pays retirement and other benefits on top of salary. You'd be amazed by the size of health insurance premiums.(Actually, if the proposal to tax the premiums goes through, you'll be amazed by the increse in your property taxes.)
School Blues

Orange City, FL

#17 May 29, 2009
Hey_look_what_I_found wrote:
Found this bit of information on another web site.
Do the math, and you'll see these folks cost the taxpayers way over 3.9 million,(of course, these numbers don't take their benefits into account).
O S C E O L A C O U N T Y B O C C
Salary over $100,000
Name Title Salary
FREILINGER, MICHAEL J COUNTY MANAGER $214,240.00
JONES, JEFFREY ALLEN SMART GROWTH MANAGER $125,184.38
KNIGHT, ELIZABETH ANNE CHIEF OF STAFF $140,636.12
PEACH, DAVID RANDOLPH ADMIN SERVS DEPT ADMINISTRATOR $141,662.98
SCOTT, RHONDA OFF OF PROCUREMENT SVCS DIR $105,931.90
APFELBAUM, DAVID R RISK MANAGEMENT MANAGER $104,028.29
PEARCE JR, GARY HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR $123,786.00
KHAN, IMTIAZ COMPTROLLER $123,786.00
HOPKINS, SHERYL GROOVER ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY II $119,601.00
NICKERSON JR, GEORGE H ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY II $135,193.51
SANCHEZ DE FUENTES, OLGA MERCE ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY II $119,601.16
STANGLE, KATHLEIN KAY DEPUTY COUNTY ATTORNEY $172,993.60
THACKER, LAURA JO COUNTY ATTORNEY $184,555.57
GARROD, THEODORE A IMPACT FEE COORDINATOR $122,179.20
FISHER, DONALD SANFORD GM ADMINISTRATOR $141,960.00
KRUJAICK, WALTER CUSTOMER RESOURCES MANAGER $111,036.64
GLOSS JR, RICHARD SEYMOUR BUILDING OFFICIAL $103,729.60
NAJDA, MAHMOUD R DEVELOPMENT REVIEW MANAGER $110,760.00
BENNETT, ROBERT WAYNE DEP DIRECTOR OF PLANNING $100,256.00
TOMEK, DAVID F PLANNING/ZONING DIRECTOR $101,400.00
MEEKS JR, GRADY LEE INFORMATION TECH DIR $115,406.72
WALL, KATHERINE A COUNTY AUDITOR $150,054.57
BANASCO, RAUL S DEPUTY DIRECTOR-CORRECTIONS $111,280.00
FUTCH, GREGORY K CORRECTIONS DIRECTOR $124,800.00
PEACH, JOYCE CAROLINE ASSISTANT CORRECTIONS DIRECTOR $117,120.09
COLLINS, RICHARD ALLEN FIRE CHIEF/EMER SVCS DIR $107,770.62
EARP, RICHARD WALSH STORM WATER MANAGER $115,038.98
ANDERSON, JAMES FRANK GENERAL SVCS DIVISION DIRECTOR $112,568.23
ATKINS, KENNETH EDWIN PW ADMINISTRATOR $144,144.00
HIDEN, DANIEL N CHIEF ENGINEER $122,689.12
ZABALLERO, JOEDEL A CHIEF ENGINEER $102,900.00
ZAITOONI, ROBERT B TRAFFIC ENGINEERING MANAGER $117,549.12
HOSTETLER, GREGG ALAN PRINCIPLE PROJECT MANAGER $104,000.00
BOULNOIS, JASON L PRINCIPLE PROJECT MANAGER $104,000.00
GRULICH, MARIA CLARK ECONOMIC DVLP ADMINISTRATOR $157,206.40
LANG, THOMAS F CVB EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR $140,400.00
RADEBAUGH, JAMES LEROY ANIMAL CONTROL DIRECTOR $115,190.40
KILROY, EDWARD A LIBRARY DIRECTOR $112,854.14
MIERS, DONALD D EVENT FACILITIES DIRECTOR $110,240.00
Some of the people on this list are no longer with the county! Each and every county commissioneer has a fund they spend and it is a lot of money, something like a slush fund. Why can that money not be taken back into the budget? If every county commissioner gave back his salary, that would also mean quite a bit to the county! Then look to see if you need these people. Most you probably do need!

I as a resident do not want to see any salary cuts unless the county commission has given back the slush fund money they us to make themselves look good! Quinones you should be the first to give back you salary since you started this discussion! I am pretty sick of hearing how people do not deserve the money they make.

My spouse and I own a business and you get what you pay for! If you pay less you get less!

“No Swine Here”

Since: May 09

Deluxe Motel Mecca

#18 May 30, 2009
Just a guy wrote:
<quoted text>
The math issue was already addressed.
The savings is that the vacant position was authorized, and "should" have been filled with the person in the job performing services.
You don't hire the person (leaving the position vacant) and you don't spend the money that was authorized. You also don't buy office supplies, computers, uniforms, etc., for that person. That's all savings.
The cost? Well, assuming that the budget was well designed, then the lack of that person means that less work is being done. Services are reduced, etc. Promises made to the voters (although probably not explicit promises) aren't being kept.
Of course, all this assumes that the budget was not full of fluff.
The math thing was for laughs.

I understand what you are saying about the vacant positions,however it would seem to me that any of our elected and appointed public servants could make that vacant number anything they want, in order to be able to utter that they are saving money.

State, counnty, and city governments are completly out of touch with what is going on in the world that most of us have to exist in.

In Lake County, we are cutting everything but the useless highly paid,well connected, double dipping hacks that have taken over.

The cost for the same handful of sheet that we get, keeps getting higher and higher, and what little services we get that we actually need, are the first things to go.

Not one of the above mentioned group of the army of parasites we are feeding, have lost their job due to bad economic times, as a matter of fact we are adding more to the pork barrel every year.
ITscag

Lakeland, FL

#19 May 31, 2009
What is funny is that while the Queen refused to give the "list" to the commissioners they had the list on Thur. morning without her knowing it.

Royalty is always the last to know. Someone needs to tell the emperor she has no clothes.
unbelievable2me

Kissimmee, FL

#20 Jul 27, 2012
Can you believe that Maria Toumazos was moved from her administrator at nearly $160000 and demoted to only a $100000 job? How much money does the county have?
broke

Abingdon, VA

#21 May 4, 2014
don't pass so many laws, save money by using sense , your state out of control , lived florida for 20 years so sad to see corrupt leaders all they down the taxpayers wallet , your state is right at the top for most police and jails and prisons and courts , and incarceration , I would look there to save money . Florida is going broke with this type of behavior so sad never will live or visit again there

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