Breaking 9/11 & Its Corruption

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sir unknown

Kingsport, TN

#1 Sep 9, 2012
First of all it seems with most around this area, they automatically presume 9/11 was an outside terrorist attack from a group named "Al-Qaeda". Even better the leader being a former CIA asset by the name of Tim Osmond,Osman,Ossman(according to which document you still can find that is not taken down.) Also if you TRULY look up Al-Qaeda you will learn it does not mean "the base", it means "to go to the toilet" in arabic native language. The most fierce terrorist(s) network named themselves "to go to the toilet". riiiiight. Also here is some more contributing FACTS not opinions to all the coverups to 9/11. IF any of these comments are non facts and just based on researched "opinions" I will state so cause I will not claim FACT and it not be an actual fact. Would be impossible to get my point across.

1.You can find numerous videos of Bush lying on camera, about the event of 9/11. Just simply type in bush lying about 9/11 and it will uncover the simplistic truth in itself. FACT

- You will notice he stated he watched the first plane, hit the first tower, which sounds reasonable to non thinkers or researchers. You will find out that on the day of 9/11, there is NO live footage of 1st plane hitting 1st tower. Only 2nd planes and so on. Bush states he watched 1st plane hit 1st tower in the school that he was at on a monitor. Which is impossible unless there was a magical tv monitor around him with a "non-media source"

2. Flight 93 - The passengers list- Just look at ANY memorial page of your choosing, you will see all the names and actually some of them have little background stories with them. If you actually do research you will notice that they are completely made up US citizens. Even the "victims" surviving family members are made up. Just research the "victims" little background stories and you will realize none of their companies add up nor their other background information. Their companies may exist but they was never part of them, or the photos of them and their families are ALL fake. Most research only leads to just couple matching, with only ONE photo of them with family members or at most TWO. FACT

3.Flight 77 (Pentagon)- If you even do small research you will find out, that you can not even mow the pentagons grass without them knowing your identification and actual small background checks. NO ONE goes unaccounted for at all. Also same for flights, if you have flown commercial flights, even before 9/11 you will know they require ID for tickets and proof of who you are. Now with everyone accounted for on both sides no matter what any excuse your willing to give it. There should be no reason to not have their results of who is there and not there, from either standpoint. Yet they tell YOU on the "mass media" that they had to do DNA testing and blah blah blah. When a ONE MAN TEAM could find every missing person single handed in less than one day, yet it takes our "all knowing" government almost 3 months to come back with results. Just let that sink in.

4. The actual towers, all 3 of them, yes thats right ALL 3 of them, look up tower 7, which fell in the SAME exact demolition method as the other 2 towers. Kinda odd how they keep that building in the shadows of the news.

- Also if you really "think" that the towers imploded from jets hitting them from above their "mid points" then you really have let the media and other sources make decisions for you. THERE is no way POSSSSSSIBLE for jet fuel to burn that hot to melt steel,let alone bring down the 3 buildings in the same exact method. Just watch demolition of building skyscrapers of how they fall EXACTLY like WTC's when explosives are used. You can not make towers implode on themselves without disrupting the foundational structure of the buildings. If you do not take out foundation, they fall over JUST like a game of JENGA (so to speak). Never fall down upon themselves.

If more detail needed for ANY of these examples,then by all means please ask away, I will show you
Engineer

Johnson City, TN

#2 Sep 9, 2012
To add to this: the claim is made that the jet filed burned hot enought to melt the steel on say three floors, whatever. When those fell on top of the ones below? That doesn't matter. It's no extra weight. It's the same amount of weight and stress on the floors below. It was holding them before the crash, and it would support them whether standing or melting or falling or anything.....weight is weight.....the stress on the lower floors didn't go up by a single pound, not a single ounce. This isn't tinkers toys construction, this is steel framing. The weight and stresses are calculated and then the framing is built to support more than the weight that's above it. Usually about 120 %.

The towers don't implode because because floors above it are melting. It was demolition. You can see it on camera. Hiw convenient for Bush to be in a school several hundred miles away. NOT DOING SHIT.

George Bush, Sr "There are 50 men who run the world and none of them are in politics"
sir unknown

Kingsport, TN

#3 Sep 9, 2012
Indeed engi indeed. Lots of people fail to see that molten lava looken substance in some videos, its called THERMITE. Which im pretty sure you know what im talking about.

Thermite is able to cut through steel like butter and if place properly it CAN and WILL cut through any metal found on earth. Also providing prove on top of thermite, look at videos of ground zero, and listen to the REAL interviews besides the ones from your favorite news source. No matter if it CNN,Fox News, MSN, and so on. They are all paid by the government. You will see several weeks after the day of 9/11 when they move certain parts of steel around and oxygen hits underneath, instantly the left over thermite reaction starts up again swiftly. NO jet fuel is going to be that hot and especially remain that hot.

Even on the jet fuel story, if you will start breaking things down, the government tries to sound scientific without using ANY common sense. They try to tell you the jets are filled to the brim with jet fuel. When most flights are over 1000 miles away from their origin, let alone over that. That means those jets had to fly without using ANY fuel. But I imagine that seems reasonable to many without a clue or want to have a clue, about what is going on around them.

DO not feel bad about being wrong or misguided about this situation for it was not your fault of being deceived. Just please accept the FACT, that OUR own "leaders" committed domestic terrorism to its own people and did an awesome job of deception.

Once you realize how fake this event is, you will see why we still have the "war on terror". You will see why in just 6 months we sent more $$ to a non military funded company than ALL wars combined in our global history. You will see that Al Qaeda is a pure fabrication by the CIA which is not even a US agency. You will see that Osama Bin Laden was funded by Bush Sr and his minions. You will see that Osama or "TIM" was not the man who died with the RIDICULOUS seal team 6 story. If you think for 1 second we would kill the most infamous terrorists on the face of the earth,complete NO interrogation,take no evidence of his death(pictures for example)(just simply for the TRUE victims of 9/11- THE NYFD and the people stuck in the towers who could not get out or jumped out), and then dump his remains in the OCEAN. That means you support savage thinking and are NO better than ANY terrorist(s) group on the planet.

WAKE UP people and see the truth's instead of ignoring them or REFUSING to listen to "possible" truth(s).

AVENGE the real victims and actual show compassion instead of mislead rage and false trust.

Do NOT ever say its pointless now or we can not do anytihng about it. Cause YES we can do something, its just going to take a huge effort and lots of responsibility. It is hard to admit you was wrong no matter WHAT walk of life, in the end its the only think you can do and move forward and TAKE ACTION

If anymore questions or examples of the fraud of 9/11 by all means ask and I will happily provide.

You must remember I have nothing to gain in proving beliefs wrong nor have hidden agenda like the ones you so dearly trust. MY only mission is to wake people up so we can come together.

“Unknown”

Since: Sep 12

Kingsport

#4 Sep 10, 2012
One of the most important topics on this page yet over looked by SO many people, who absolutely REFUSE to look into the matter. 9/11 was a massive stepping stone into the abyss of our "nation" yet so many people simply just ignore anyone who goes against their "conclusions" or "beliefs".

This should be stunning to ANYONE who believes in Al Qaeda, Bin Laden,"War on Terror", or anything else your government has lied to you about.
Wazzup

Johnson City, TN

#5 Sep 10, 2012
Hey Abdul, I'll bet man never walked on the moon. That was just a sound stage with Hollywood actors. By the way, who was the shadowy figure on the grass knoll in Dallas that shot JFK? There was never a holocaust. That was only an attempt by the European Jews to discredit Hitler. Yep, that makes about as much sense as your conspiracy theories. Go put on your tie die and twist up another torpedo.

“Unknown”

Since: Sep 12

Kingsport

#6 Sep 10, 2012
HAHA good stuff. ONCE again you did not argue any of my points, you just simply changed the topic and went on your marry way.

I BET ANYTHING, you cannot prove against them, just only say negative remarks and bring up things your "source(s)" tell you.

Just cause you think your right does not mean your RIGHT....

IN this subject .. I KNOW FOR A FACT with my extensive research, not doing a quick google to just make myself feel better, I actually searched every single aspect from hundreds of sources.

But since your so precious, then by all means could you actually prove me wrong or you just going to keep rambling against FACTS ?

Also you have a good day and much love your way :)

“Unknown”

Since: Sep 12

Kingsport

#7 Sep 11, 2012
Today is 9/11 and they are lying all over the news, yet no one disagrees or just chooses to not look over the overwhelming evidence, that our own "chosen" "leaders" are the ones who attacked our own nation?

I literally can lose sleep at night knowing how dirty our "leaders" truly are and the corruption they stand for. THE world is not yours until you make it yours. If you simply ignore the fact they sabotaged our nation like no terrorists could ever do, and able to sit back and let it not bother you, then that is truly sad. That means that their deaths in vein are only important when a certain situation arises to you or makes an impact on your daily life. Which it already has in so many ways, and will continuing to do so in the future.

RIP to the true victims of 9/11 inside those towers and the brave members of the NYFD who had some SERIOUS testicular fortitude. If I just had half their guts id have enough for 40 life times. Rest their spirits and hope their presence help all that is in peril or lost.
Engineer

Johnson City, TN

#8 Sep 11, 2012
Your quest is a noble one. I don't think you're trying to stir things up. fahrenheit 911 made sense. It's sure lined the pockets of Dick Vheneys WAR MACHINE HSLIBURTON. If people don't think that things are happening that they don't know...then they don't know"....and they never will.....I'm not saying for sure that it was done by bush, but I am ceratinly not ruling it out.....it's important and the truth needs I be known....

“Unknown”

Since: Sep 12

Kingsport

#9 Sep 11, 2012
Thanks and its nice to know others in this region are slowly starting to wake up. People who disagree will simply just call you names or argue your points by just simply taking few words out of context. I truly do not know how in the hell people can ignore such blatant lies and just be ok with it, yet voice their opinions on so many other dull and non sense manners.

The main reason people will disagree I have learned, is that they refuse to be wrong about such a deep subject and refuse to see how so many people died in vein and how many people in other countries has also died in vein from evil rich soul less creatures.

Once again PLEASE just wake up and see the truths instead of denying EVIDENCE not theories.

I never once state a hologram theory, or remote control planes or whatever. If I do it will only be from opinion points only. You can actually look up and see on the "truth" videos of 9/11 in the beginning are SO different from the ones provided as of recent.

Once you finally realize this truth, you will no Obamas death is all fake and that Al Qaeda was fabricated from thin air, it is very easy to make up a false terrorist group, with little to no effort. So many more things will stand out to you, and hopefully many more will question them, instead of cowering behind their government who is going to stab them in the back. Which they already so to speak have half their blades already twisted in the "blind" citizens backs.
fireman3

Johnson City, TN

#10 Sep 11, 2012
I will only disagree with your reference to the fire in the ground zero pit.
You, by evidence of your post, never fought structure fire on a professional basis.
The towers were not just steel. Tons of flammable material filled each floor. These fell. They will hold their heat and smolder for days, sometimes weeks, depending upon the depth of the material.
Each time fresh air is then introduced, you get another roaring fire. It's commonly called rekindle and many local FD return to many structure fires multiple times because of that.
But, I wont dismiss your points.

“Unknown”

Since: Sep 12

Kingsport

#11 Sep 11, 2012
fireman3 wrote:
I will only disagree with your reference to the fire in the ground zero pit.
You, by evidence of your post, never fought structure fire on a professional basis.
The towers were not just steel. Tons of flammable material filled each floor. These fell. They will hold their heat and smolder for days, sometimes weeks, depending upon the depth of the material.
Each time fresh air is then introduced, you get another roaring fire. It's commonly called rekindle and many local FD return to many structure fires multiple times because of that.
But, I wont dismiss your points.
Yes indeed and ive actually looked down to the materials of the paints and floor wax actually ha. Yet what I was referring to was the molten steel which is literally impossible to furnace with an open element environment. Thermite is the only available option to be used outside a steel making furnace. If you would like, if I can find the couple of videos in my massive archive, there is several videos just on youtube, that capture the molten steel balls, where they have became so hot, they literally stripped the elements from the iron, and created a mass scrap metal ball. Which is impossible to obtain from the sources of fire available from the "media source" reports is what im getting at. Yet very valid point and glad you mentioned that.

But if their was all the flammable material why didnt at least the twin towers catch flame all the way down through every floor instead of constantly flaming on the same floors. That is where the media just leaves you to believe that the fire had become so intense that it destroyed the foundations of every building. Which im sure the ones in the "knowing" surely know and completely just call bullshit on. If no one knew anything else about the fraudulent 9/11 investigation, they should know from general physics and simple science, that it is literally impossible for structures to fall like that. Especially when they claim it came from the aircraft impact and its fuel.

Also to add in the mix, is the impossible phone call stories. No way no how can any call be made from cell phone at the time, especially according to their placement altitude and cell phone signal abilities in 2001. If we remember correctly, you could sneeze and lose signal so to speak.

If anything else anyone would like to add or possibly take away, im always up to discuss or debate on solid based feedback as such.
Want to know

United States

#12 Sep 11, 2012
I'd like to ask. What school of building design did you guys go to? How many degrees in these different fields do you guys hold? Must be quiet a few. You cover everything from high rise design, language, metallurgy to petro chemicals plus demolition. That's a lot of time in school. I only wish I had a fraction of an education like you guys have. I had to beat my brains out to get the one I have. I guess some people get it all and know it all.

“Unknown”

Since: Sep 12

Kingsport

#13 Sep 11, 2012
Want to know wrote:
I'd like to ask. What school of building design did you guys go to? How many degrees in these different fields do you guys hold? Must be quiet a few. You cover everything from high rise design, language, metallurgy to petro chemicals plus demolition. That's a lot of time in school. I only wish I had a fraction of an education like you guys have. I had to beat my brains out to get the one I have. I guess some people get it all and know it all.
Is that my fault you failed to realize, that you can literally learn more on the internet than any ivy league college? Im not knocking your degree one bit nor denying your education. Im stating, if you learn how to educate yourself in a non self sided way, you will learn more than most degrees. In this new day and age, it isnt what you studied for show, its all about everything YOU CAN KNOW. You can obtain as much knowledge as basically any profession on earth, and just because I did not have a "professor" then I did not learn as much as you. When you can simply focus on whatever you like at basically anytime, you would be very surprised at the amount you can learn in actually a shorter amount of time. Also regardless of your belief system on meditation, it has helped me attain tremendous amounts of knowledge and acquire their simple meanings and the way advanced key points also.

Just cause someone has a degree in something IT DOES NOT make them more knowledgeable than someone who does not have the paper and years saying I do so better than ANYONE else.
confused

Kingsport, TN

#14 Sep 17, 2012
If our leaders had something to do with 9/11. My question is why would they do this to their own country? I'm not disputing what you have said sir. I agree that the towers falling the way they did, that would not happen naturally with a plane hitting it. Also that our air force was completely thrown off and not able to intercept the other 3 planes. Even the killing of bin laden was very suspiscious when they threw him into the ocean after killing him.

“Unknown”

Since: Sep 12

Kingsport

#15 Sep 17, 2012
The number one reason of why, basically any country goes to war. War is the most profitable venture any massive bank could ever invest in.

The Rockefeller(s) alone in WW2 funded Japan,Germany,France,and few other smaller funded countries at the time. You can actually look up several of the corrupt Rockefeller videos,on basic You Tube, and they show the documentation on such. There is actually a video of David Rockefeller, admitting in an interview about the profits of war,and few other ones which are harder to find,that happily admit funding all sides to MANY of war.

Now this is the part that you have to swallow and was very hard to do. The killing of our own citizens on 9/11. Well sorry to say but our own country is the most brutal murderers of all time. Some of the "sweet southern" people are absolutely brutal and clueless in their ways of thinking. Like you see the people who have no family members or do have family members overseas. Im really not a big fan of seeing those little evil ribbons on cars. They all stand for corruption and money. Even the breast cancer ones are just simply disgusting, of how the medical industry exploded with profits from it. I say this about the supporting of troops though, simply for this, how often do those very same supporting "our own", really think about the tens of thousands alone in the middle east, that we are slaughtering to this day. Those people in those countries, are getting told when to eat,sleep,live and getting their "liberties" re-handed to them. But that's ok to most since they DO NOT live here in this "country".

Also if 9/11 was never completed then it would be really hard to hold focus over a decade, on a "war on terror". People would say, "Hey we are paying too much $$,for a search and destroy of weapons that we can never ever find. Now on the opposite end of that scale, if we was to let loose a 10 ton atom bomb in new york city and killed people in the masses, like we do other countries. Then the country would have lost faith, in the protection abilities of US government, and they could not focus the attention on a fake event, and get every citizens "go ahead",like an event of 9/11.

Yes 9/11 was one shit day, for lots of people. Yet it was the perfect attack to blindside America. If you take out a smaller amount of people, in a building known to stand for something globally,and also known to have many known races and businesses around the world. Let alone the symbols of the twin towers skyline of new york city and how predominant they truly was. If people are angry and sad, yet have someone or something, to point their fingers at, for the attack cause their government provided it. Then you have ALL you need from "false vengeance" to get the countries support.

I was too angry at the time, and it did not hit home with me until I got older, that I had been duped and became even more angry with my own government,and myself for ever letting them fool me and the population,and most of the world.

Now back to your main question, the biggest reason of them ALL is money. Our country has sent over 13 trillion just through Haliburton alone, I do not mean the companies worth,Im talking just funneling of funds. The military alone could account for 65% of 13 trillion, that is a LOT of missing chunks. That is JUST the first 7 years and just Haliburton stats. Hard to imagine who many of the rich, simply got richer. EVERY bit of our taxes are too support this very war, and its massive debt. EVERY single part of it stinks to high shit.

The United Corporation of America, look it up we TRULY, are a corporation not a country. The United Nations OWNS the very house you live in and your land, regardless of paying for it in full,just look on your deed, it states your a tenant, not sole owner. Very bad things coming my amigos.

The United Corporation, also has NEVER, in its history been to war for anything other, than CAPITAL GAIN.

If more info needed let me know.

Take Care.
confused

Kingsport, TN

#16 Sep 17, 2012
Thank you for your reply sir. I have watched all the 9/11 documentaries on the history channel last week. I get a sick feeling every time I see the planes crashing and the towers falling.

“Unknown”

Since: Sep 12

Kingsport

#17 Sep 17, 2012
Yeh man it is sickening, I know. It will become more sickening, once you realize EVERY single thing on ANY news source, is usually a complete fabrication of the truth. Or ends up being so biased you might as well, read a fucking comic book to get your answers. Even the local news stations around here, give the most shitty and shady deliverance of "news" that they should only come on comedy central. Most people refuse to do their own research and rely on news sources to tell the absolute story and thats understandable. Yet so many others and myself are trying so hard to HELP others see the "light" so to speak. But most will usually just deny you of that, cause it does not agree with what they "believe", so therefore it must be bullshit, cause it is not what everyone else agrees upon.

I get so caught up in passion, about getting the "word" out there on this subject, that im not even sure what all I included in my last post.

So if you or anyone, have anymore questions or wants anymore information, by ALL means just hit me up on here and I will gladly discuss everything of my knowledge of the event itself, and other means of corruption.

Just a simple reminder to anyone, if I do not know something, I refuse to act like I do, just for simple fact of character. If something is a fact, I will say so and refute any other option, until PROVEN wrong, then will happily admit im wrong and continue on my merry way.

Take care and much love to all

Im starting to see some of my posts, are getting deleted now. I replied back to you again, yet it just vanished. It happens so often, on many of posts and all kinds of different forums. Its used to be very frustrating at first, no its just amusing. It has to be moderators who cannot handle PEOPLE who have a different viewpoint than theirs.

Yet people can say things on here, while staying off topic and just plainly being negative and talking massive amounts of shit.
Lemonade

Bristol, VA

#18 Sep 17, 2012
"The number one reason of why, basically any country goes to war. War is the most profitable venture any massive bank could ever invest in."

NO sir. It USED to be. Not any more.

"Well sorry to say but our own country is the most brutal murderers of all time."

NO FREAKING SIR. ACTUALLY we're NOT. Nice and powerful FALSE statement but it completely false. But I'm sure you feel pleased as peach to say so without all the "facts" you so solemnly uphold.

Now I'm not one to excuse them, but let another country take power and see what you get. You don't like to think so, but you are just another pawn trying to get America to turn against itself with which are, perhaps its own shortcomings and tragedies, but seeming to forget that we FEED the world, HELP the world, deliver trillions in NEED to the world, yet NO, NO, NO other country on Earth would do what we do for our neighbors.

YES we have crooked politicians and corporations. But that is not our call to abandon our freedoms, but a call to DEFEND THEM. I'm sorry if I've judged you wrongly here, but this is not the time to toss aside American ideals. After all, MOST Americans are not currently occupying the White House. We are going about our jobs (if we have one) and trying to support our families like the peoples of most countries.

I guess the thing that gripes me, is that you seem to be abandoning us instead of supporting us. Perhaps we didn't land on the Moon either? More massive amounts of shit there too I suppose?

“Unknown”

Since: Sep 12

Kingsport

#19 Sep 18, 2012
Ok, well lets break this down, YOU know for a fact that war is no longer profitable? Your speaking as if, the country is going to "war" for the country's benefit? If you truly believe that, then by all means explain so. What im saying about funds, is that the WORLD revolves around the GLOBALLY rich, and this is a FACT. They are the exact same ones, who have literally bribed your "crooked" political parties. They fund both sides, so it does not matter who the hell win, they still get to run the show. I really wish you could provide evidence that is not profitable,especially in this day and age. When you can use mass sources of media to lie and deceive on your behalf? The part I truly regret is that you somewhat believe the mass media?

Also, I take it, that you believe 9/11 was accomplished, by some radical islam extremist living in caves correct? If so, what "theory" do you have proclaiming this, other than of course government funded research?

HOW in the hell do you mean we feed people? Only thing our country feeds other(s) is bullshit, and if your referring to that, then by all means your correct. Hell, they give out 2nd and 3rd courses in that. Also, what do you consider "helping" out other countries? You mean like, FORCING so many countries to bend at their will, for absolutely nothing at all. Depriving countries also of their liberties,governments,and basic liberties? That the kind of help are you referring to?

Also what exactly do we do for our neighbors, besides help mexico sell their drugs? You must mean we police THEIR streets and prevent TENS of THOUSANDS of homicides each year? Cause hate to break it to you, WE do NOTHING for NO ONE, for simple concern. If we cannot make money off the landscape or economy, then they are absolutely no interest to the Unite Corporation.

Your absolutely correct though, I am disgusted in the majority, of my fellow countrymen(s), outlook on life all together. Its ALL about, negativity and drama.

How do you believe that we are doing "good" things in this world? I truly would like to know, or hear a logical response to why.

How do you figure, that our government is not the largest scale "killers" since 1940's ?

What do you mean like other countries, as far as supporting families. The average man or woman, goes and slaves themselves for over 40 hours a week, and in most cases, doing a job they really do not even want to do. To make it even better, they raise state taxes,national taxes, and even "global" tax,and "rape" of almost half your paycheck. To pay for a complete BULLSHIT WAR, that is NOT even a war.

Would you truly enjoy, if a country WAY more advanced than you, came into your neighborhood, and said FUCK YOU, we are the new bosses and this is how things are going to go. While at the same time, killing your cousins and innocent family members?
Would you not eventually start, setting up ways to destroy the "infidel" and try to remove them from your "country"?

So once again im glad you asked these questions, yet you have no provided ONE shred of numbers or evidence, especially anything that is not told by the precious mass media.

Also, does it not bother you, that your own "government" orchestrated 9/11 and made it seem like someone else? If that does not anger you, then Im afraid your way less of a "patriot" than I am. Im trying to regain MY COUNTRIES freedoms, not get spoon fed, pure shit and take it like a mindless sheep. THAT is what GRIPES my ass, that you said. I would DIE 1000 times over, just to know, I made a REAL difference for MY COUNTRY, than watch it get overrun by pure evil corrupted corporations.

Have a good morning and take care
confused

Kingsport, TN

#21 Sep 18, 2012
I like your way of thinking sir. You do have very good points. If you don't mind me asking, What is your educational background? I have not fully researched all things on 9/11, though like I said before, I do find the whole thing a bit strange the way it all played out. Especially the way the towers fell. Where do you find research about the event and know you are getting the true facts. I would like to do more research and get a more understanding of it all.

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