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Redneck

Herndon, PA

#21 Feb 7, 2013
Gonzo wrote:
<quoted text> I dont see a majority of military vets "putting their lives on the line" first off. People especially military ppl seem to think that everyone in the military is on the front lines of combat when the vast majority of them are not. These sub mariners seem to think that they are as equally entitled to the same hero status as a seal, ranger, or foot soldier etc. And I am cognizant of the fact that non combat jobs support the combat mission. However, the reality is that most of them work relatively safe jobs. I agree that what you signed up for is what you should get. However, myself and a lot of other people are tired of listening to you people gripe. You get a fair wage thats accompanied by housing allowance, free medical insurance, tax free shopping,nearly unlimited gratuities and discounts, education benefits, 20 year retirement pensions,home buyers programs, and job prefereces after seperation from the military. Yet you gripe all the time and expect that the rest of us should feel sorry for you and throw rose pedals on the ground for you to walk upon. If its so damn bad join the private sector and see if you can get the same deal with the skills and credentials you possess. Most service members signed up for these jobs with nothing but a HS education and limited job skills, yet its still not enough. This propaganda about fighting for our freedom is a false slogan thats far worn out. Most of the wars we have fought has had nothing to with the freedom of the American Citizens. Im sorry but the actions taken in Iraq, Somalia, Grenada, Kosovo, Vietnam, Korea, Mali, and endless other conflicts are not related to our security and freedom. Afghanistan is no longer about our freedom. Right now the tax payers i.e. the people you work for, are footing the bill to rebuild another nation. I understand that service members dont pick and chose what wars to fight, but this country cannot afford to continue its interventionalist policies. Just like we cant afford to pay every person who does 4 years of service then claims a disabilty for the rest of their life. But what do you people want that you are not getting? I do appreciate the military, however Im tired of hearing your constant whining and clamoring for accolades.
My last monthly check when I retired in 1977 was $954. That was E7 over 20.

Those of you carping about what our servicemen are paid in relation to the risk of their job need to keep in mind that their risk level can escalate in a heartbeat. Also for those who say we wasted our time and resources in Iraq, Grenada, Somalia, Kosovo, etc, you are probably right. The only problem is the military didn't write the order that sent them there.

If you have a bitch it is with the politicians who are too quick to put the military in harms way.
Anon

Yulee, FL

#22 Feb 8, 2013
Redneck wrote:
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My last monthly check when I retired in 1977 was $954. That was E7 over 20.
Those of you carping about what our servicemen are paid in relation to the risk of their job need to keep in mind that their risk level can escalate in a heartbeat. Also for those who say we wasted our time and resources in Iraq, Grenada, Somalia, Kosovo, etc, you are probably right. The only problem is the military didn't write the order that sent them there.
If you have a bitch it is with the politicians who are too quick to put the military in harms way.
Well said Redneck. But we might as well resolve ourselves to the fact that you can't fix stupid. Those who want to critize our military would be the first to curl up and cry like little bitches and the cowards they are if they ever reinstated the draft. They couldn't handle it.
Amazing

Herndon, PA

#23 Feb 8, 2013
Gonzo wrote:
<quoted text> I dont see a majority of military vets "putting their lives on the line" first off. People especially military ppl seem to think that everyone in the military is on the front lines of combat when the vast majority of them are not. These sub mariners seem to think that they are as equally entitled to the same hero status as a seal, ranger, or foot soldier etc. And I am cognizant of the fact that non combat jobs support the combat mission. However, the reality is that most of them work relatively safe jobs. I agree that what you signed up for is what you should get. However, myself and a lot of other people are tired of listening to you people gripe. You get a fair wage thats accompanied by housing allowance, free medical insurance, tax free shopping,nearly unlimited gratuities and discounts, education benefits, 20 year retirement pensions,home buyers programs, and job prefereces after seperation from the military. Yet you gripe all the time and expect that the rest of us should feel sorry for you and throw rose pedals on the ground for you to walk upon. If its so damn bad join the private sector and see if you can get the same deal with the skills and credentials you possess. Most service members signed up for these jobs with nothing but a HS education and limited job skills, yet its still not enough. This propaganda about fighting for our freedom is a false slogan thats far worn out. Most of the wars we have fought has had nothing to with the freedom of the American Citizens. Im sorry but the actions taken in Iraq, Somalia, Grenada, Kosovo, Vietnam, Korea, Mali, and endless other conflicts are not related to our security and freedom. Afghanistan is no longer about our freedom. Right now the tax payers i.e. the people you work for, are footing the bill to rebuild another nation. I understand that service members dont pick and chose what wars to fight, but this country cannot afford to continue its interventionalist policies. Just like we cant afford to pay every person who does 4 years of service then claims a disabilty for the rest of their life. But what do you people want that you are not getting? I do appreciate the military, however Im tired of hearing your constant whining and clamoring for accolades.
I am not in the military, nor did I speciify I was in the military. You assumed this because obviously I must be. However, I do know what these guys and girls go through (ie schedule, time away from home, time away from family, stress level of day to day operations) and it is by far the most stressful all around job I have ever seen. It does not matter if they are on the front lines. Sometimes maintaining the security of the nation is more important than taking it back. You may should become more educated on matters before you condemn a wonderful bunch of people. Start putting your hatred for spending in a different area. Your government (sounds like you voted for our current president) spends like the stuff grows on trees. Start griping about all the able bodied men and women that we pay for to sit at home at watch soap operas and collect a check when they could be working. You have no idea what your military does for you.
Just a Veteran

Augusta, GA

#24 Feb 14, 2013
Veterans from Vietnam are the worst when it comes to entitlements. They all would have you think they are war heroes like my family members who never set a toe in vietnam but did serve none the less or Iraq which none ever made it overseas like I did. They all receive benefits of 50% to 100% for PTSD, depression, back aches, hearing etc. but were fine until retirement. That is when they found out they did not save money and needed more so they became democrates though were republicans while working. When I served on Carriers 25% of the sailors worked and the rest were lazy no good bastards that talked about being short after serving only 9 months of there 4 yr committment. If you were drafted I could see grievences but the WWI, WWII and Korean warriors never cried like the assholes that followed. I live in Augusta GA and witnessed the Iraq warriors flown in and treated in an aircraft hangar I was working in and that made me tear up seeing these young men messed up for life and than thinking of all the con artist veterans I see at the VA taking up space while these guys are in a hangar. The military produces more babies than men but the real men and women get mixed into the same group as the losers so be open before judging a veteran...one the brags is usually a lier and if they say they are entitled to benefits they can go suck one. We are a nation collapsing like Rome with all the costs associated with taking care of unproductive lazy wastes that America so embraces. Screw all of you lazy con artists veterans you are a blight on the good men and women who did not just show up for the military but actually served the military and this country.
Pie Hole

Saint Marys, GA

#25 Feb 14, 2013
Just a Veteran wrote:
Veterans from Vietnam are the worst when it comes to entitlements. They all would have you think they are war heroes like my family members who never set a toe in vietnam but did serve none the less or Iraq which none ever made it overseas like I did. They all receive benefits of 50% to 100% for PTSD, depression, back aches, hearing etc. but were fine until retirement. That is when they found out they did not save money and needed more so they became democrates though were republicans while working. When I served on Carriers 25% of the sailors worked and the rest were lazy no good bastards that talked about being short after serving only 9 months of there 4 yr committment. If you were drafted I could see grievences but the WWI, WWII and Korean warriors never cried like the assholes that followed. I live in Augusta GA and witnessed the Iraq warriors flown in and treated in an aircraft hangar I was working in and that made me tear up seeing these young men messed up for life and than thinking of all the con artist veterans I see at the VA taking up space while these guys are in a hangar. The military produces more babies than men but the real men and women get mixed into the same group as the losers so be open before judging a veteran...one the brags is usually a lier and if they say they are entitled to benefits they can go suck one. We are a nation collapsing like Rome with all the costs associated with taking care of unproductive lazy wastes that America so embraces. Screw all of you lazy con artists veterans you are a blight on the good men and women who did not just show up for the military but actually served the military and this country.
You can speak of your experience but not those of Vietnam era.
ye herd

Kingsland, GA

#26 Feb 15, 2013
Pie Hole wrote:
<quoted text>You can speak of your experience but not those of Vietnam era.
Amen!!! ye herd??
Fat and Sassy

Kingsland, GA

#27 Feb 15, 2013
Just a Veteran wrote:
Veterans from Vietnam are the worst when it comes to entitlements. They all would have you think they are war heroes like my family members who never set a toe in vietnam but did serve none the less or Iraq which none ever made it overseas like I did. They all receive benefits of 50% to 100% for PTSD, depression, back aches, hearing etc. but were fine until retirement. That is when they found out they did not save money and needed more so they became democrates though were republicans while working. When I served on Carriers 25% of the sailors worked and the rest were lazy no good bastards that talked about being short after serving only 9 months of there 4 yr committment. If you were drafted I could see grievences but the WWI, WWII and Korean warriors never cried like the assholes that followed. I live in Augusta GA and witnessed the Iraq warriors flown in and treated in an aircraft hangar I was working in and that made me tear up seeing these young men messed up for life and than thinking of all the con artist veterans I see at the VA taking up space while these guys are in a hangar. The military produces more babies than men but the real men and women get mixed into the same group as the losers so be open before judging a veteran...one the brags is usually a lier and if they say they are entitled to benefits they can go suck one. We are a nation collapsing like Rome with all the costs associated with taking care of unproductive lazy wastes that America so embraces. Screw all of you lazy con artists veterans you are a blight on the good men and women who did not just show up for the military but actually served the military and this country.
you are absolutely right but unfortunately no ones wants to hear it.
Camden Sux

United States

#28 Mar 28, 2013
Gonzo wrote:
<quoted text> I dont see a majority of military vets "putting their lives on the line" first off. People especially military ppl seem to think that everyone in the military is on the front lines of combat when the vast majority of them are not. These sub mariners seem to think that they are as equally entitled to the same hero status as a seal, ranger, or foot soldier etc. And I am cognizant of the fact that non combat jobs support the combat mission. However, the reality is that most of them work relatively safe jobs. I agree that what you signed up for is what you should get. However, myself and a lot of other people are tired of listening to you people gripe. You get a fair wage thats accompanied by housing allowance, free medical insurance, tax free shopping,nearly unlimited gratuities and discounts, education benefits, 20 year retirement pensions,home buyers programs, and job prefereces after seperation from the military. Yet you gripe all the time and expect that the rest of us should feel sorry for you and throw rose pedals on the ground for you to walk upon. If its so damn bad join the private sector and see if you can get the same deal with the skills and credentials you possess. Most service members signed up for these jobs with nothing but a HS education and limited job skills, yet its still not enough. This propaganda about fighting for our freedom is a false slogan thats far worn out. Most of the wars we have fought has had nothing to with the freedom of the American Citizens. Im sorry but the actions taken in Iraq, Somalia, Grenada, Kosovo, Vietnam, Korea, Mali, and endless other conflicts are not related to our security and freedom. Afghanistan is no longer about our freedom. Right now the tax payers i.e. the people you work for, are footing the bill to rebuild another nation. I understand that service members dont pick and chose what wars to fight, but this country cannot afford to continue its interventionalist policies. Just like we cant afford to pay every person who does 4 years of service then claims a disabilty for the rest of their life. But what do you people want that you are not getting? I do appreciate the military, however Im tired of hearing your constant whining and clamoring for accolades.
I guess Gonzo couldn't make the cut to join. Or maybe he doesn't have the nads to give his life for his country. Sounds like a silly little liberal. Now get back to the deep fryer I want some more fries.
bubba131

Calhoun City, MS

#29 Mar 28, 2013
stop whinning wrote:
Stop whinning! Nobody twisted your wrist when you signed up loser! Obama is our president live with it!
Now there's a person that is either on welfare, unemployment, a government worker or a union member.
All of the above are ONLY concerned with drinking from the federal teat
Not Bubba

Herndon, PA

#30 Mar 28, 2013
bubba131 wrote:
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Now there's a person that is either on welfare, unemployment, a government worker or a union member.
All of the above are ONLY concerned with drinking from the federal teat
Great, we have some retard named "Bubba" giving us advice about how to responsible citizens. Do us all a favor: Shut your face and go back to picking your feet, you uneducated douche bag.

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