3 arrested in child porn operation

3 arrested in child porn operation

There are 47 comments on the News 4 Jax story from Apr 10, 2013, titled 3 arrested in child porn operation. In it, News 4 Jax reports that:

A day-long operation led to the arrest of three Camden County men Wednesday on charges of possession and distribution of child pornography.

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IDK

Atlanta, GA

#21 Apr 13, 2013
JEM wrote:
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Never heard of it. So, why don't you tell me all about it, since apparently you have some inside "scoop" that is going to demonstrate conclusively that the "system" in Camden County is set up against the poor innocents of this community. Tell me about all the people "found guilty" who really weren't that are currently incarcerated because of the "system" in Camden County. Please dazzle us with your knowlege, as we are all DYING to hear your great insights ....
Er.....I think that was in reference to the arrests that were never made. Two rental houses that were set up as grow houses with product in them. Arrests but no trial, no further info. Why don't YOU dazzle us with your knowledge as to why this case was not prosecuted.
White Collar Crime

United States

#22 Apr 13, 2013
Product = 400 plus plants in one house.
Kip

Saint Marys, GA

#23 Apr 13, 2013
DCFS wrote:
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You didn't really just suggest that any person who directly or indirectly supports the sexual assault of a child through receipt, possession, or distribution of child pornography is "human" and just made a "mistake," right? That certainly appears to be the case. This isn't a victimless crime, like jaywalking or smoking marijuana in the privacy of your own home. Consequently, any attempt to rationalize this as just some poor guy who made a "mistake" makes you look like a complete douche bag. But, hey, who am I to judge? I am sure you just made a "mistake" ....
What is a victimless crime? That means no victim, no crime, and no one here is supporting sexual assaults of a child or anyone for that matter, but people do lie, people with DCFS lie, children lie, cops lie, and for those of you out there that think you and your family are perfect, you are sadly mistaken, your family has someone that is queer, an alcoholic, drug user, or some sick addiction, so be careful who you are pointing your fingers at, it may come back and haunt you.
Kip

Saint Marys, GA

#24 Apr 13, 2013
JEM wrote:
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What a moronic comment. Oh, really? Why don't you identify for us all the people you know in Camden County who the "system" ensured were "found guilty whether they [were] or not." I am sure you no of none, but I don't suspect that will stop you from running your mouth off.
I can run my mouth off since it is a free country, just like you, wait until you find out about your family member that is a rapist, thief, ie, and that might shut your mouth up, it is a fact, when a certain judge was on the bench, she made sure she won her cases, that is why she is not a judge now, karma. How do I know this? I know it and so do you.
Kip

Saint Marys, GA

#25 Apr 13, 2013
Victimless crime?? I am still pondering that one, if you have a crime, you have a victim, no crime, no victim, somebody please tell me what is a victimless crime? Who are these morons?
Kip

Saint Marys, GA

#26 Apr 13, 2013
One more thing, the cops did a good job, they did what they were supposed to do, now let the court do there job and since the JUDGE is no longer there, they just might get a fair trial.
JEM

Herndon, PA

#27 Apr 13, 2013
Kip wrote:
Victimless crime?? I am still pondering that one, if you have a crime, you have a victim, no crime, no victim, somebody please tell me what is a victimless crime? Who are these morons?
Dear Dipshit: Please allow me to congratulate you on being the only person in Camden County to apparently NOT know what a victimless crime is. I believe that officially makes you the smartest retarded person in the County. It also completely destroys your attempt to paint yourself through your posts as some sort of intellectual who is more worldly and sophisticated than the rest of us. Be honest: Are you actually this dense or are you really only 5 years old? Since I have never met an adult who could possibly be this stupid, I can only assume the latter. Consequently, I must ask you to get off Topix and get to bed; the adults are tying to have a "big boy" conversation.
JEM

Herndon, PA

#28 Apr 13, 2013
IDK wrote:
<quoted text> Er.....I think that was in reference to the arrests that were never made. Two rental houses that were set up as grow houses with product in them. Arrests but no trial, no further info. Why don't YOU dazzle us with your knowledge as to why this case was not prosecuted.
First, the assertion made was that a bunch of innocent people have been set up and sent to jail by the "system" in Camden County. Go back and read the original post, numb nuts. Second, the fact the case wasn't prosecuted doesn't support the view, offered by the great sophisticate, Kip, that innocent people are being unfairly convicted of crimes in Camden County due to the "system." In fact, it proves just the opposite, although I suspect neither you or that jackass are smart enough to recognize it. Third, I have no idea why the case wasn't prosecuted, a fact that should have been obvious to you in light of my post that I had no knowledge of what the case concerned to begin with. Since you apparently know so much about it, and since it apparently bothers you so much, why don't YOU dazzle us with your theories on why. Oh, and I am still waiting for to hear about all the innocent people sitting in jail because of those mean old police officers in Camden County.
JEM

Herndon, PA

#29 Apr 13, 2013
Kip wrote:
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I can run my mouth off since it is a free country, just like you, wait until you find out about your family member that is a rapist, thief, ie, and that might shut your mouth up, it is a fact, when a certain judge was on the bench, she made sure she won her cases, that is why she is not a judge now, karma. How do I know this? I know it and so do you.
A family member that is a thief or rapist? You say that with such conviction ... with such passion ... that I can only assume it comes from experience. Unfortunately, that experience still hasn't had the desired effect of getting you to shut your mouth ....

Since: Apr 13

Quezon City, Philippines

#30 Apr 14, 2013
if Gay Marriage is upheld by the courts child porn is next
Kip

Saint Marys, GA

#31 Apr 14, 2013
JEM wrote:
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Dear Dipshit: Please allow me to congratulate you on being the only person in Camden County to apparently NOT know what a victimless crime is. I believe that officially makes you the smartest retarded person in the County. It also completely destroys your attempt to paint yourself through your posts as some sort of intellectual who is more worldly and sophisticated than the rest of us. Be honest: Are you actually this dense or are you really only 5 years old? Since I have never met an adult who could possibly be this stupid, I can only assume the latter. Consequently, I must ask you to get off Topix and get to bed; the adults are tying to have a "big boy" conversation.
JEM, you never answered the question, what is a victimless crime? Like I said, I never heard of such a thing, so explain it if you can and stop making nasty comments about someone you probably do not even know, never said I was an intellectual, or acted like one,, just never heard of such a thing, fact remains, if you have no victim, you have no crime, how can a crime be done without a victim? I think this is a good question, if you know what it means thus tell, my wife told me to google it, so I will give that a try.
JEM

Herndon, PA

#32 Apr 14, 2013
Kip wrote:
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JEM, you never answered the question, what is a victimless crime? Like I said, I never heard of such a thing, so explain it if you can and stop making nasty comments about someone you probably do not even know, never said I was an intellectual, or acted like one,, just never heard of such a thing, fact remains, if you have no victim, you have no crime, how can a crime be done without a victim? I think this is a good question, if you know what it means thus tell, my wife told me to google it, so I will give that a try.
Kip: Will do. What I mean by a victimless crime is, as mentioned, something like jaywalking. Who is the "victim" of that behavior? How does society suffer and why should society care that someone crossed the street at something other than a crosswalk? Likewise, if an adult decides to smoke marijuana in the privacy of their own home (which I don't do, BTW), who is the "victim" of that behavior? There is no "victim" in that case, as you might have with a rape or theft. Obviously, with child pornography, the victims are those depicted in the photos who are not willing participants, but are unable to protect themselves. Contrast that with good old fashioned adult pornography, the possession of which is still a crime in more jurisdictions than you might imagine. If two willing, consenting adults wish to watch other willing, consenting adults engage in sex, why should that be a crime? Who are the "victims" in such a situation? I will give you one more, albeit one that is slightly more controversial: prostitution. If two willing, consenting adults choose to engage in a sexual act in which money is exchanged, why should society care? Who is the "victim" in that situation? Clearly, it wouldn't be a career choice I would promote for anyone, and there are certainly arguments that can be made regarding the degrading, coercive effects of those who need the activity to survive. Generally speaking, however, if a woman or man chooses to engage in the transaction, as happens in many places across Nevada, who cares? Those are what I am referring to when I speak of victimless crimes. I hope that helps.
Kip

Saint Marys, GA

#33 Apr 14, 2013
That makes sense but this topic about the men arrested, this does not fall under that list, or does it, child porn arrests so who are the victims? Unknown children?
JEM

Herndon, PA

#34 Apr 14, 2013
Kip wrote:
That makes sense but this topic about the men arrested, this does not fall under that list, or does it, child porn arrests so who are the victims? Unknown children?
No, this is not a victimless crime, which was the point I was trying to make to the individual who suggested that those who receive and possess child pornography have simply made a "mistake." Child pornography isn't a victimless crime. While the victims often lack identities, that isn't the same as NOT being a victim. The whole concept of child pornography rests on the exploitation and victimization of those most vulnerable in society by those who have the power to do so. Further, those who engage in receiving and possessing it provide the market for its continuation. Hence, I would dispute any characterization of those who further child pornography as "humans" who "just made a mistake."
Anon

United States

#36 Apr 14, 2013
JEM wrote:
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Kip: Will do. What I mean by a victimless crime is, as mentioned, something like jaywalking. Who is the "victim" of that behavior? How does society suffer and why should society care that someone crossed the street at something other than a crosswalk? Likewise, if an adult decides to smoke marijuana in the privacy of their own home (which I don't do, BTW), who is the "victim" of that behavior? There is no "victim" in that case, as you might have with a rape or theft. Obviously, with child pornography, the victims are those depicted in the photos who are not willing participants, but are unable to protect themselves. Contrast that with good old fashioned adult pornography, the possession of which is still a crime in more jurisdictions than you might imagine. If two willing, consenting adults wish to watch other willing, consenting adults engage in sex, why should that be a crime? Who are the "victims" in such a situation? I will give you one more, albeit one that is slightly more controversial: prostitution. If two willing, consenting adults choose to engage in a sexual act in which money is exchanged, why should society care? Who is the "victim" in that situation? Clearly, it wouldn't be a career choice I would promote for anyone, and there are certainly arguments that can be made regarding the degrading, coercive effects of those who need the activity to survive. Generally speaking, however, if a woman or man chooses to engage in the transaction, as happens in many places across Nevada, who cares? Those are what I am referring to when I speak of victimless crimes. I hope that helps.
While I agree with some of what you said, I don't agree with your examples of a victimless crime. Georgia Statutes indicate the State as a victim of any crimes outlined in their contents; Hence, the State of Georgia is in fact, the victim of the listed crime. The same goes for violations of Federal Statutes, Etc. Kip; you are just an idiot!
Kip

Saint Marys, GA

#37 Apr 14, 2013
Anon, why am I an idiot? Because I asked a question? Anon, your post makes more sense than any other answer on here, thank you. Victimless means without a victim, without a victim, there is no crime. Never heard of this in my life, must be a Georgia thang.
Nick

United States

#38 Apr 14, 2013
Kiddie porn is a crime with a victim. It is the perpetuation of the pornography. It is the trafficking of porn. Just how to these pictures manifest? Anyone that buys or trades kiddie porn is helping.
Kip

Saint Marys, GA

#39 Apr 14, 2013
Nick wrote:
Kiddie porn is a crime with a victim. It is the perpetuation of the pornography. It is the trafficking of porn. Just how to these pictures manifest? Anyone that buys or trades kiddie porn is helping.
Agreed.
Anon

United States

#40 Apr 14, 2013
Kip wrote:
Anon, why am I an idiot? Because I asked a question? Anon, your post makes more sense than any other answer on here, thank you. Victimless means without a victim, without a victim, there is no crime. Never heard of this in my life, must be a Georgia thang.
You just don't understand the concept of a victimless crime. JEM is 100% right. Victimless crime is certainly not a Georgia thing, it is a universal concept.
Kip

Saint Marys, GA

#41 Apr 14, 2013
Anon wrote:
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You just don't understand the concept of a victimless crime. JEM is 100% right. Victimless crime is certainly not a Georgia thing, it is a universal concept.
This must not be the same Anon that posted earlier, the other Anon said that he/she agreed with some of what the poster wrote, or if you are the same one, make up your mind.

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