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Lady of Leisure

Kingsland, GA

#1 Jun 19, 2013
Has anyone noticed the changed in Borrell Creek Fine Dining Restaurant? Our dinner group went there recently and we're extremely disappointed. We ended up leaving because the music was so loud and annoying. It seems the management no longer cares what their long-time regulars want. We will not be back to that establishment again. I didn't see Mrs. Wong and am wondering if it is under new management. What a disappointment as we always enjoyed the atmosphere but their focus is more for the young drinking crowd. So glad to hear The Mad Hatter is open for dinner. That will be our choice from now on.
Carl

Atlanta, GA

#2 Jun 19, 2013
Lady of Leisure wrote:
Has anyone noticed the changed in Borrell Creek Fine Dining Restaurant? Our dinner group went there recently and we're extremely disappointed. We ended up leaving because the music was so loud and annoying. It seems the management no longer cares what their long-time regulars want. We will not be back to that establishment again. I didn't see Mrs. Wong and am wondering if it is under new management. What a disappointment as we always enjoyed the atmosphere but their focus is more for the young drinking crowd. So glad to hear The Mad Hatter is open for dinner. That will be our choice from now on.
SInce when is Borrell Creek considered a " fine" dining restaurant? Try Salt at the Ritz, PLAE at the shoppes on AIP or Matthew's in San Marco. Those are fine dining restaurants.Borrell Creek is, at best, a dive with a view. Try out Bistro and Brew in Kingsland in the strip across from Walmart.....pretty good food!
Keith Stone

Kingsland, GA

#3 Jun 19, 2013
Lady of Leisure wrote:
Has anyone noticed the changed in Borrell Creek Fine Dining Restaurant? Our dinner group went there recently and we're extremely disappointed. We ended up leaving because the music was so loud and annoying. It seems the management no longer cares what their long-time regulars want. We will not be back to that establishment again. I didn't see Mrs. Wong and am wondering if it is under new management. What a disappointment as we always enjoyed the atmosphere but their focus is more for the young drinking crowd. So glad to hear The Mad Hatter is open for dinner. That will be our choice from now on.
You should have been at Borrell Creek when there was a knock down drag out bar room brawl there a couple of weeks ago. Chairs were thrown and tables knocked over. There were about 8 guys going at it at its peak. Even a couple girls got into it.

Borrell Creek now caters to the crowd that used to frequent the Island Lounge, across the street, before it closed.

It's just a matter of time before something really bad happens at Borrell Creek. Mrs. Wong's son is running the place and the only thing he knows how to do is cook wings and serve beer.

You may remember, he was the guy that was supposedly seen coming out of the side door of Lang's restaurant at 3:00AM the night it burned. His ol' lady was the manager of Lang's at the time. Wong is a thug.
Anon two

Saint Marys, GA

#4 Jun 19, 2013
Mrs. Wong will step back in if she does not want to lose Borrell. It is not the restaurant it was 6 months ago. Higher end patrons will not put up with loud music, loud drunks and brawling. It is a disappointment that a great restaurant is quickly becoming a joint.
mexman

Kingsland, GA

#5 Jun 19, 2013
Keith Stone wrote:
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You should have been at Borrell Creek when there was a knock down drag out bar room brawl there a couple of weeks ago. Chairs were thrown and tables knocked over. There were about 8 guys going at it at its peak. Even a couple girls got into it.
Borrell Creek now caters to the crowd that used to frequent the Island Lounge, across the street, before it closed.
It's just a matter of time before something really bad happens at Borrell Creek. Mrs. Wong's son is running the place and the only thing he knows how to do is cook wings and serve beer.
You may remember, he was the guy that was supposedly seen coming out of the side door of Lang's restaurant at 3:00AM the night it burned. His ol' lady was the manager of Lang's at the time. Wong is a thug.
I was there. It was crazy. I like a good time, but I'm not subjecting my wife to that kind of behavior. It was like going to a biker bar when everyone is drinking too much. We'll just stick with Applebee's even though we will miss the view.

“The one and only! ”

Since: Oct 10

St. Marys, GA

#6 Jun 20, 2013
Anon two wrote:
Mrs. Wong will step back in if she does not want to lose Borrell. It is not the restaurant it was 6 months ago. Higher end patrons will not put up with loud music, loud drunks and brawling. It is a disappointment that a great restaurant is quickly becoming a joint.
"Higher end" patrons have a very simple solution available to them:
Bistro & Brew. Better on their worst day than The Borrell Creek Sewage Spill Observatory was on it's best day.
Not a fan of BandB

Kingsland, GA

#7 Jun 20, 2013
Moreno Jay wrote:
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"Higher end" patrons have a very simple solution available to them:
Bistro & Brew. Better on their worst day than The Borrell Creek Sewage Spill Observatory was on it's best day.
I took my family of three to Bistro and Brew and although we had a very nice waitress, the service was confused, and the food was very sub-par.$70.00 I wish I had not spent.

As far as Borrell, I'm sorry to see them change We always enjoyed our food in the dining room. And the atmosphere, especially the view, was the best.

“The one and only! ”

Since: Oct 10

St. Marys, GA

#8 Jun 20, 2013
Not a fan of BandB wrote:
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I took my family of three to Bistro and Brew and although we had a very nice waitress, the service was confused, and the food was very sub-par.$70.00 I wish I had not spent.
As far as Borrell, I'm sorry to see them change We always enjoyed our food in the dining room. And the atmosphere, especially the view, was the best.
Really? What did you have and what was wrong with each dish?

What is "confused service?" Please describe in detail.

Might I suggest that if you actually thought the mediocre-at-best crap served at Borrell Creek was good, your credentials to judge good food are highly suspect.

I ate there ONCE on my own. The other times I was dragged there by others. Always thought it sub-par.
Mr Townie

Saint Marys, GA

#9 Jun 20, 2013
"mediocre-at-best crap served at Borrell"

Jay,

You are being too kind here. I would not call it mediocre at Borrell. Sad but true.
Lady of Leisure

Kingsland, GA

#10 Jun 20, 2013
Lady of Leisure wrote:
Has anyone noticed the changed in Borrell Creek Fine Dining Restaurant? Our dinner group went there recently and we're extremely disappointed. We ended up leaving because the music was so loud and annoying. It seems the management no longer cares what their long-time regulars want. We will not be back to that establishment again. I didn't see Mrs. Wong and am wondering if it is under new management. What a disappointment as we always enjoyed the atmosphere but their focus is more for the young drinking crowd. So glad to hear The Mad Hatter is open for dinner. That will be our choice from now on.
We tried that Bistro restaurant and it was terrible. Our food was not warm and meat overdone. Sorry. Agree that Borrell isn't "Fine" dining, but for local dinner is used to be good. Yes, I do love dining on Amelia Island as we do often. We also enjoy Oyster Bay and The Omni.
Steve M

Kingsland, GA

#11 Jun 20, 2013
Moreno Jay wrote:
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Really? What did you have and what was wrong with each dish?
What is "confused service?" Please describe in detail.
Might I suggest that if you actually thought the mediocre-at-best crap served at Borrell Creek was good, your credentials to judge good food are highly suspect.
I ate there ONCE on my own. The other times I was dragged there by others. Always thought it sub-par.
If you don't believe that B&B is inconsistent (at best) read my review in your Culinary Coup thread or on TripAdvisor. I realize that you are unable to believe that anyone could have a bad experience at your beloved B&B. But "Not a fan's" comment aside, our experience was not just sub-par, it was downright bad. Sorry.
VTRetiree

Kingsland, GA

#12 Jun 20, 2013
Totally agree. We will not be back to Borrell Creek, either. We've been going to St. Simon's Island and Amelia Island for elegant and delicious dining. Anyone who thinks Bistro and Brew is excellent food must not dine at five-star restaurants often. It's average at best. Nothing outstanding, but good for a different type of cuisine for people in Camden.
Samantha

Kingsland, GA

#13 Jun 20, 2013
Keith Stone wrote:
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You should have been at Borrell Creek when there was a knock down drag out bar room brawl there a couple of weeks ago. Chairs were thrown and tables knocked over. There were about 8 guys going at it at its peak. Even a couple girls got into it.
Borrell Creek now caters to the crowd that used to frequent the Island Lounge, across the street, before it closed.
It's just a matter of time before something really bad happens at Borrell Creek. Mrs. Wong's son is running the place and the only thing he knows how to do is cook wings and serve beer.
You may remember, he was the guy that was supposedly seen coming out of the side door of Lang's restaurant at 3:00AM the night it burned. His ol' lady was the manager of Lang's at the time. Wong is a thug.
So whats wrong with the Island Lounge crowd? I had many a good time at the IL. If you don't like the New Borrell Creek stay the hell away. Personally, I like the bands and the people that hang out there. You old timers are a wet blanket any way. Get lost.
Charles D

Kingsland, GA

#14 Jun 21, 2013
We had the misfortune of eating at Borrell Creek Landing last evening. A band was playing on the deck. The entire meal was ruined by the drumming of a bass guitar vibrating throughout the building.

It annoys the hell out of me when a car drives by my home with the sub-woofers cranked up. That is the way our entire meal was last night. By the time we were finished, I wanted to scream.

I will never go back. They have ruined the place.

“It's comong.”

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#15 Jun 21, 2013
Moreno Jay wrote:
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Really? What did you have and what was wrong with each dish?
What is "confused service?" Please describe in detail.
Might I suggest that if you actually thought the mediocre-at-best crap served at Borrell Creek was good, your credentials to judge good food are highly suspect.
I ate there ONCE on my own. The other times I was dragged there by others. Always thought it sub-par.
Love it when you are a martyr for others.
Pittsoff

Fairport, NY

#16 Nov 12, 2013
I think one must try and look at what has happened over the years to try and decide why they have changed how they operate. Borrell Creek was once "one of the nice places to eat" in St Marys. There were not many options. And they had what no one else had....the view. Business slowly drifted away as more options came into the area. Where it went wrong I am not sure. The Wong's Wings & Wibs short lived fiasco???? No altering of menu??? Service???? Management???? I am sure they had to alter what they did to bring in revenue. Some may not like it as they remember how it used to be, and I get that. It is odd to walk in there and the whole restaurant is empty but the deck is full. I remember when Borrell would have them lined up down the drive. I have visisted there several times and have not experienced any crazy brawls or anything, but still enjoy sitting on the deck and having a meal and drinks. I'm not sure what "turn around" method they would have to use to get back to the glory days.... Food is OK, but I know what to expect. Like I aid I like to hang on deck and eat a little something and have a drink or two. Music has never bothered me. Would like to see them make it in whatever avenue they decide to travel. If they are going to stay the route they are on and cater to a different crowd, they need to revamp the inside for that, to fill the place and not just the deck. Times change....
Truth

Kingsland, GA

#17 Nov 12, 2013
Caught between a rock and a hard spot. Wings and booze keeps the place afloat. Huge profit items.

The affluent customers from Shadowlawn and Osprey were once their targeted patrons but have grown older and don't dine out as much. Negative retirement housing growth for several years has taken its toll . No new blood.

"If they are going to stay the route they are on and cater to a different crowd, they need to revamp the inside for that, to fill the place and not just the deck. Times change...." agree 100%
Borrell Creek diner

Saint Marys, GA

#18 Nov 12, 2013
The clientele did not change, Borrell Creek Restaurant changed. Borrell was very consistent for years, great service, food, and management.

The whole picture changed when the long time female manager was let go. She knew all the regulars. She knew where they liked to sit. She made everyone feel welcome and special. She knew how to get the most out of the kitchen. Mrs. Wong is very nice but she does not have good people skills.

For a while after the female manager left, a little bossy, effeminate, maitre d' took over management of the dining room. He treated old timers like strangers, he did not keep track of orders, he seemed overwhelmed, food quality became very inconsistent, service declined quickly.

I know this because I used to be a regular at Borrell Creek. I used to have dinner with friends on a regular basis. We talked among ourselves about what was happening to our favorite restaurant and we talked to Mrs. Wong.

Soon Mrs. Wong's son took a more visible role in running the restaurant. The bands came and the regulars could not even carry on a conversation in the dining room.

What I am saying is that the customers did not change, the restaurant changed. And many of us, especially in Osprey Cove, were saddened.

The saving grace is that with the new owner and management of the Club at Osprey Cove, we have an excellent dining experience available right in our community.

If Borrell Creek Restaurant returned to the old business model, people would return. But it would be a challenging task to get the word out.
Really

Kingsland, GA

#19 Nov 12, 2013
"The saving grace is that with the new owner and management of the Club at Osprey Cove, we have an excellent dining experience available right in our community."

Since your forced to eat there I'm really glad to hear it's acceptable. Unfortunately Borrel creek doesn't have that arrangement.
finer things

Saint Marys, GA

#20 Nov 12, 2013
Must you live in Osprey Cove to dine at the restaurant?

We are tired of driving to Amelia Island for upscale dining.

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