Excellent First and Second Amendment points

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Anon

Herndon, PA

#1 Jan 13, 2013
The first amendment says that freedom of speech shall not be abridged, but we can't commit libel or slander, false advertising, we get fined if we curse on TV, we can't mail porn or in some states sell it, we can't make threats, we can't plot or advocate the overthrow of our government, and so on. All of these abridgments of the freedom of speech are constitutional.

All the rights in the Constitution have always been interpreted as not being absolute, especially when weighed against the public safety and the rights of others. If certain firearms pose enough of a danger to society by their mere availability, then they will be removed, constitutionally.
Redneck

Kingsland, GA

#2 Jan 14, 2013
The constitution does not ban the words, just penalizes those who misuses them.

The constitution should not ban the assault weapons, just penalize those who misuse them.

You might thinks its okay to be a sheep but I don't.

“The one and only! ”

Since: Oct 10

St. Marys, GA

#3 Jan 14, 2013
Anon wrote:
The first amendment says that freedom of speech shall not be abridged, but we can't commit libel or slander, false advertising, we get fined if we curse on TV, we can't mail porn or in some states sell it, we can't make threats, we can't plot or advocate the overthrow of our government, and so on. All of these abridgments of the freedom of speech are constitutional.
All the rights in the Constitution have always been interpreted as not being absolute, especially when weighed against the public safety and the rights of others. If certain firearms pose enough of a danger to society by their mere availability, then they will be removed, constitutionally.
Wanna bet?

Since: Dec 12

Kingsland, GA

#4 Jan 14, 2013
Redneck wrote:
The constitution does not ban the words, just penalizes those who misuses them.
The constitution should not ban the assault weapons, just penalize those who misuse them.
You might thinks its okay to be a sheep but I don't.
Reactive. What's you proactive solution?
Charlie

Herndon, PA

#5 Jan 14, 2013
Redneck wrote:
.You might thinks its okay to be a sheep but I don't.
I think we should follow and obey laws. Even ones we don't like. Kind of like what we teach and expect our kids to do. And what we expect our neighbors to do as well. It's called being an adult in a civilized society.
Moody

Saint Marys, GA

#6 Jan 14, 2013
So shud the bros and sis's in washinton.
Redneck

Kingsland, GA

#7 Jan 14, 2013
Dr_Lecter wrote:
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Reactive. What's you proactive solution?
Ever heard of the justice system? My only problem is with the weenies running the justice system. Why is Hassan still alive? Why is the Colorado theater shooter still alive? Why is the guy who shot Rep Giffords still alive? There are numerous others that slip my mind at this time. There us no doubt as to their guilt so why are they still alive. Thankfully more and more are taking that option out of our hands.
Redneck

Kingsland, GA

#8 Jan 14, 2013
Charlie wrote:
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I think we should follow and obey laws. Even ones we don't like. Kind of like what we teach and expect our kids to do. And what we expect our neighbors to do as well. It's called being an adult in a civilized society.
I do follow the law and at 74 years of age I think I can call my self and adult.

You say "even the ones we don't like." Tell me how far you would go along with the people enacting laws such as, how much you can weigh, how hot or cool you can keep your house, what size motor you can have in your vehicle, etc. Get my drift?

I can see why some people think that if they outlaw assault rifles or even rifles and shotguns that we will be a much safer country. I disagree. There was a bumper sticker out a few years ago. It said "When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns." A more truthful statement has never been made.

As for the sheep statement, well, if someone wants to break into my house while I am home he more than likely will leave on a slab.

Since: Dec 12

Kingsland, GA

#10 Jan 14, 2013
Redneck wrote:
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Ever heard of the justice system? My only problem is with the weenies running the justice system. Why is Hassan still alive? Why is the Colorado theater shooter still alive? Why is the guy who shot Rep Giffords still alive? There are numerous others that slip my mind at this time. There us no doubt as to their guilt so why are they still alive. Thankfully more and more are taking that option out of our hands.
Yes I've heard of the justice system, but what deterrent is it for a suicidal gunman?

What can we do?
Anon

Herndon, PA

#11 Jan 14, 2013
Moreno Jay wrote:
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Wanna bet?
Sure, any amounts OK since those were the sentiments of Conservative Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia. I'm confident enough in the other eight Justice's intelligent thought as well.
Holy Cow

Herndon, PA

#12 Jan 14, 2013
Anon wrote:
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Sure, any amounts OK since those were the sentiments of Conservative Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia. I'm confident enough in the other eight Justice's intelligent thought as well.
Did Anon finally shut-up Moreno Jay?
HSRocks

Herndon, PA

#13 Jan 15, 2013
Redneck wrote:
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Ever heard of the justice system? My only problem is with the weenies running the justice system. Why is Hassan still alive? Why is the Colorado theater shooter still alive? Why is the guy who shot Rep Giffords still alive? There are numerous others that slip my mind at this time. There us no doubt as to their guilt so why are they still alive. Thankfully more and more are taking that option out of our hands.
Why are they still alive? It's called, due process of law and it's guaranteed under the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments to the U.S. Constitution. You'll appreciate it if you're ever arrested. Want fast justice? Move to Iran, China, etc.

Consider reading the U.S. Constitution one time and spend less time on Topix whining. Just a suggestion from a 6th grade home school girl.
anon

Herndon, PA

#14 Jan 15, 2013
HSRocks wrote:
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Why are they still alive? It's called, due process of law and it's guaranteed under the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments to the U.S. Constitution. You'll appreciate it if you're ever arrested. Want fast justice? Move to Iran, China, etc.
Consider reading the U.S. Constitution one time and spend less time on Topix whining. Just a suggestion from a 6th grade home school girl.
an excellent retort! most likely leave a mark. welcome to the fray.
Redneck

Kingsland, GA

#15 Jan 15, 2013
HSRocks wrote:
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Why are they still alive? It's called, due process of law and it's guaranteed under the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments to the U.S. Constitution. You'll appreciate it if you're ever arrested. Want fast justice? Move to Iran, China, etc.
Consider reading the U.S. Constitution one time and spend less time on Topix whining. Just a suggestion from a 6th grade home school girl.
Kinda stupid aren't you. How long do you think it should take to bring a proven killer to trial. Shouldn't take more than a few weeks in the cases I mentioned. There is no doubt that the people they are holding did the crimes and the appropriate punishment is death.

Justice delayed is justice denied and is also a slap in the face of their relatives and friends!

Shame on you!
CheersforKyle

Apopka, FL

#16 Jan 15, 2013
Redneck wrote:
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Kinda stupid aren't you. How long do you think it should take to bring a proven killer to trial. Shouldn't take more than a few weeks in the cases I mentioned. There is no doubt that the people they are holding did the crimes and the appropriate punishment is death.
Justice delayed is justice denied and is also a slap in the face of their relatives and friends!
Shame on you!
Love the voice of reason. Critical thinking seems to decline with every generation.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#17 Jan 16, 2013
The Constitution (and Bill of rights) is a limit on GOVERMENT, not a limit on WE THE PEOPLE.

One of the reasons we defeated the Brits is because 'we the people' had the same firearms availale to 'us' as his majesity's soliders did.... and those Brits were taking away those arms.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#18 Jan 16, 2013
Dr_Lecter wrote:
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Yes I've heard of the justice system, but what deterrent is it for a suicidal gunman?
What can we do?
What can 'we' do? Fight back. Violence can ONLY be defeated with equal or greater violence of action. Gun-free-zones are easy, soft targets for a reason.

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